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Rothaga · Nov 30, 2007, 06:05 AM // 06:05

Swearing is everywhere, deal with it, ya, sometimes it is excessive, but its always going to be there, deal with it.

Zesbeer · Nov 30, 2007, 06:24 AM // 06:24

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Originally Posted by Rainywinter

So, let me get it straight.

There is a chat filter you can turn on, if you don't like to be exposed to inappropriate language, and you can leave it off if you wish,

however, if you say words like s*** and f*** and get reported you will get temp ban or ban for inappropriate language?

basicly yes i keep telling people if they dont like hearing that stuff just turn on the chat filter its there for a reason.

Tachyon · Nov 30, 2007, 06:35 AM // 06:35

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Originally Posted by Zesbeer

basicly yes i keep telling people if they dont like hearing that stuff just turn on the chat filter its there for a reason.

Surely you mean reading the stuff, unless you have a 'text to speech' update I don't know about.

Ghengis Kwell · Nov 30, 2007, 03:31 PM // 15:31

Let us all copy the language as used by Annie Wilkes in Misery , a model example of behaviour in a world gone mad you bunch of dirty birds!!!!

Quaker · Nov 30, 2007, 03:57 PM // 15:57

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Originally Posted by Azagoth

A bit of swearing here and there never hurt anyone, well not unless you're some sort of prude from the American bible belt that is!

You don't need to be a "prude" or from the American Bible belt to be offended by crass & vulgar language. That's like saying you have to be a teenager from Los Angeles to be offended by country music.

(Relax all you Country fans, it's just a humorous way of making a point.

)

slaponte · Nov 30, 2007, 04:08 PM // 16:08

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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

A year ago, the biggest complaint people had concerned the sad shape of the GW community - or lack thereof. Fortunately, A-Net's taking steps clean it up & making this game one with a better environment for the community as a whole. I for one am glad they're doing it. Everyone needs to take a lesson here- READ THE EULA! When you accept the terms of the EULA, like any contract, you're bound by those terms and have no leg to stand on if you've been banned/suspended for breaching the terms of the EULA.

This is nice and dandy, but...

The problem is that EULAs and contracts are designed to be... flexible. It is not the clear curse words and bans that are a problem, it is the border line stuff. Example : I don't think I curse. BUT, every now and then I might use the word @ss, like in "don't be an @ss"... Now, if today thats ok and tomorrow somebody gets offended, then I am out.

When we define what is offensive by who gets offended, we get in trouble because everybody gets offended at something. The Arabs are offended because a teddy bear is called Mohamed. So here we go : no curse words, no religious names, no references to Nazis, Jews, etc...

My solution : I agree to the EULA. And I respect ANets right to police their environment. So why not create a "dictionary of no-no words", and publish it on a web site, with the appropriate disclaimers. And then people know what is ok, and what isn't, and no arguments.

And yes, I do think that some of the /reports can be answered with "turn on your filter"...

And to other comments :

- I turn off the local channel on chat many times. Lots of garbage talk there anyway. I only stay on local long enough to do whatever I am doing, if anything at all. Mostly to give away crap (ups, there goes crap)...

- Who pays attention to other player names? I can barely remember them when they ARE in my PUG. People are sitting in town reporting other player's char names?? Get a life...

Like forums, the game can be over-moderated and under-moderated. ANet should strive to get a balance. Yeah, some obvious curses are out, but you also have to be able to answer "get a life" every now and then.

arcady · Nov 30, 2007, 05:47 PM // 17:47

Why would you turn on local to give away stuff, that's what trade is for.

Honestly, I might report you for that before I reported you for anything else.

Your example is a bad one, "don't be an @ss"
- that's something you say intended to insult someone. That's not innocent at all. It is a perfect example of reportable language not so much from the word @ss but from the hostile intention behind its usage in that context.

You're calling someone out as disagreeable to you, and to drive it home you are adding profanity.

A perfect example of what reportable language is for - to stop harassment, fighting language, flame wars, and the creation of a hostile gaming environment.

In that example, you are using those words to provoke, with the intention of provoking, the put someone else down.

Far from an example of 'innocent use of colorful language' that example is the perfect case for reportable language.

Antheus · Nov 30, 2007, 06:01 PM // 18:01

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Originally Posted by Rothaga

Swearing is everywhere, deal with it, ya, sometimes it is excessive, but its always going to be there, deal with it.

This is indeed main problem here - assuming that swearing is common.

While in reality, it'll be limited to a very close circle of acquaintances.

When dealing with public in general, people don't swear. Or if they do, they make themselves look as complete uncivilized idiots. Unfortunately, many don't realize that.

quickmonty · Nov 30, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04

"Colorful language" is debatable. One night on TeamSpeak I was describing a geographical feature to find a treasure. It was a hill that I described as "A mammary gland with a nipple in the center." Silence for a minute or so, than someone replied "That was so PC it took me a minute to figure out what you said."

Rothaga · Nov 30, 2007, 06:12 PM // 18:12

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Originally Posted by arcady

Why would you turn on local to give away stuff, that's what trade is for.

Honestly, I might report you for that before I reported you for anything else.

Your example is a bad one, "don't be an @ss"
- that's something you say intended to insult someone. That's not innocent at all. It is a perfect example of reportable language not so much from the word @ss but from the hostile intention behind its usage in that context.

You're calling someone out as disagreeable to you, and to drive it home you are adding profanity.

A perfect example of what reportable language is for - to stop harassment, fighting language, flame wars, and the creation of a hostile gaming environment.

In that example, you are using those words to provoke, with the intention of provoking, the put someone else down.

Far from an example of 'innocent use of colorful language' that example is the perfect case for reportable language.

You are one of the people that needs to get a life, people need to vent a little, "dont be an @ss" isnt bad at all, your gonna get some people mad, and their gonna say stuff like that, just shrug it off. Its no harassment, i've said it to people before, and ill never see them, or talk to them, again.

slaponte · Nov 30, 2007, 06:45 PM // 18:45

LoL.... See, to me an ass is a donkey, which is far from some of the other curse words you read online everywhere, including these forums. Calling somebody an ass, or lets say a donkey when they do something idiotic seems nicer than calling them an idiot, which in my understanding is a stronger insult.

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Originally Posted by arcady

Why would you turn on local to give away stuff, that's what trade is for.

Honestly, I might report you for that before I reported you for anything else.

Your example is a bad one, "don't be an @ss"
- that's something you say intended to insult someone. That's not innocent at all. It is a perfect example of reportable language not so much from the word @ss but from the hostile intention behind its usage in that context.

You're calling someone out as disagreeable to you, and to drive it home you are adding profanity.

A perfect example of what reportable language is for - to stop harassment, fighting language, flame wars, and the creation of a hostile gaming environment.

In that example, you are using those words to provoke, with the intention of provoking, the put someone else down.

Far from an example of 'innocent use of colorful language' that example is the perfect case for reportable language.

Fidelity · Nov 30, 2007, 08:41 PM // 20:41

Meh. It's all so stupid the chat filter. It filters out "quim" from General Quimang...

I keep swearing to a minimum myself as there really isn't a need for it. Take 2 minutes away from the keyboard if you feel you're getting frustrated

slaponte · Nov 30, 2007, 09:40 PM // 21:40

I don't swear much because my Heroes and henches won't answer back... much...

Stop The Storm · Dec 01, 2007, 12:47 PM // 12:47

I think i can conclude this thread nicely.

Swearing is fine, you have a swear filter, use it.

EVADING the swear filter is not fine, forcing inappropriate profanity onto kids and others is unfair and deserves bans.

Sakura Az · Dec 01, 2007, 01:36 PM // 13:36

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Originally Posted by Apok Omen

I'm still confused as to why sega is in the chat filter...

sega sega sega sega...

what? sega is the the chat filter? hmmm i must go try this..

Commander Ryker · Dec 01, 2007, 01:45 PM // 13:45

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Originally Posted by Rainywinter

So, let me get it straight.

There is a chat filter you can turn on, if you don't like to be exposed to inappropriate language, and you can leave it off if you wish,

however, if you say words like s*** and f*** and get reported you will get temp ban or ban for inappropriate language?

The filter doesn't work because people do things to get around the filters.

Since this is yet another whining thread about bans and language...........closed.

Nov 30, 2007, 06:05 AM // 06:05	#21
Rothaga Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2007 Profession: D/W	Swearing is everywhere, deal with it, ya, sometimes it is excessive, but its always going to be there, deal with it.

Nov 30, 2007, 03:31 PM // 15:31	#24
Ghengis Kwell Baby Maker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Guild: Sent Fromhell Profession: D/W	Let us all copy the language as used by Annie Wilkes in Misery , a model example of behaviour in a world gone mad you bunch of dirty birds!!!!

Nov 30, 2007, 05:47 PM // 17:47	#27
arcady Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Francisco native Profession: Mo/P	Why would you turn on local to give away stuff, that's what trade is for. Honestly, I might report you for that before I reported you for anything else. Your example is a bad one, "don't be an @ss" - that's something you say intended to insult someone. That's not innocent at all. It is a perfect example of reportable language not so much from the word @ss but from the hostile intention behind its usage in that context. You're calling someone out as disagreeable to you, and to drive it home you are adding profanity. A perfect example of what reportable language is for - to stop harassment, fighting language, flame wars, and the creation of a hostile gaming environment. In that example, you are using those words to provoke, with the intention of provoking, the put someone else down. Far from an example of 'innocent use of colorful language' that example is the perfect case for reportable language.

Nov 30, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04	#29
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	"Colorful language" is debatable. One night on TeamSpeak I was describing a geographical feature to find a treasure. It was a hill that I described as "A mammary gland with a nipple in the center." Silence for a minute or so, than someone replied "That was so PC it took me a minute to figure out what you said."

Nov 30, 2007, 08:41 PM // 20:41	#32
Fidelity Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2007	Meh. It's all so stupid the chat filter. It filters out "quim" from General Quimang... I keep swearing to a minimum myself as there really isn't a need for it. Take 2 minutes away from the keyboard if you feel you're getting frustrated

Nov 30, 2007, 09:40 PM // 21:40	#33
slaponte Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Miami, FL Guild: Praetorian Guard Profession: W/Mo	I don't swear much because my Heroes and henches won't answer back... much...

Dec 01, 2007, 12:47 PM // 12:47	#34
Stop The Storm Keeping DoA Alive Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: England Guild: Were In [DoA] Profession: A/N	I think i can conclude this thread nicely. Swearing is fine, you have a swear filter, use it. EVADING the swear filter is not fine, forcing inappropriate profanity onto kids and others is unfair and deserves bans.