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Online Gamer · Dec 12, 2007, 11:51 PM // 23:51

What is the best one for Prophecies and Nightfall

(Factions is obvious,Ghials Staff)

Stormlord Alex · Dec 12, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53

Ghial's is actually not too good.

A 20/20 Wand and Artifact is the 'best' overall for a PvE necro, allowing you to cast more skills overall than any other combo.

Online Gamer · Dec 12, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56

Hmmm. I just liked it because it halves recharge time havles casting time and and add +1 dm

Darkobra · Dec 13, 2007, 12:30 AM // 00:30

+1 Death Magic is very miniscule for a minion master. It's not as good as people hype it up to be.

Online Gamer · Dec 13, 2007, 12:35 AM // 00:35

I dunno that extra 1-2 levels that you gain from the +1 might be helpful

street peddler · Dec 13, 2007, 12:37 AM // 00:37

in nightfall go for The Nightbringer

Dante the Warlord · Dec 13, 2007, 01:04 AM // 01:04

Assuming you are an mm...

You wanna just use a 20% HCT 20% HSR offhand and a 20% HSR +5 energy or 20% HCT..

Halves Skill Recharge is really important for a minion master since producing a lot of minions is ideal. A lot of the skills take a while to recharge and you need to produce more minions then are being killed off.

RPGmaniac · Dec 13, 2007, 01:09 AM // 01:09

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Originally Posted by Online Gamer

I dunno that extra 1-2 levels that you gain from the +1 might be helpful

You only get 1 level added to your minions when that thing activates. It also activates very rarely so it really isn't all that helpful.

jrk247 · Dec 13, 2007, 01:17 AM // 01:17

Death req. staff with HSR/HCT 20%, +15 energy, +30 health, or +60 health (hale head and fortitude wrap).

+1/20% DM is crap, +health/energy is actually useful.

BigDave · Dec 13, 2007, 02:07 AM // 02:07

Ideally as a MM you don't wan't +HP mods on your weapons, assuming you use [skill]blood of the master[/skill] to keep your minions alive. More HP = more health sacced.

For me personally i prefer either a staff or martial weapon with a +20% enchant mod, and +energy because i use [skill]aura of the lich[/skill], [skill]dark bond[/skill] and [skill]mystic regeneration[/skill] on the rare occassion i run a MM build.

For greens i'd go for the [wiki]Grim Ghostly Staff[/wiki] from Nightfall, or any of the Droknars Death weapons or the SR staff if you have EotN (i know you didn't ask for EotN weapons but i'm just saying fyi). Ghials is ok but the DM+1(20%) mod could be better imo.

Depends what kind of MM you wanna run really and your personal preference.

Onarik Amrak · Dec 13, 2007, 03:14 AM // 03:14

You'd probably want something with 20/20/20 and maybe 20% enchants.

Olim Chill · Dec 13, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17

A 40/40 set can really keep you rolling. I recommend that.

+1 DM 20% is more tease than please.

free_fall · Dec 13, 2007, 06:20 PM // 18:20

There's always Bortak's Claw from Prom - 5^50, 20% HCT Death - or Torub's Wand from NF - 5^50, 10% HSR - coupled with you favorite off-hand. I prefer to use the 12/15/-1/+30H ones myself. I did just recently get a Factions drop - 12/15/-1/+1 Death 20%, Konrru's Fervor.

MagmaRed · Dec 13, 2007, 09:10 PM // 21:10

I use a staff with the following stats:

+10 energy
11-22 Cold Damage (req 10 Death Magic)
HSR 20%
+15 energy/-1 regen (inscription)
+5 energy (head)
+1 Death Magic 20% (wrapping)

I like the +1 Death as it allows my minions to be a higher level and do more damage. The alternatives were Fortitude, Valor, Endurance, Devotion, Enchanting, Defense, Shelter, Warding, or Slaying.

Since I don't want more health for Life Sacrifice, and don't need more armor due to Dark Bond, that leaves Slaying or Mastery. Slaying is highly limited, and of no use for a MM. I could change the head and/or inscription for a HCT mod, but with Bloodstained insignia, I don't see a need for it.

When I run builds other than MM, but still use Death Magic, it allows me to do more damage, so I definitely like the +1 mod. I use +1 on almost all my caster classes except Monk, although I do if I Smite

margretli · Dec 13, 2007, 09:53 PM // 21:53

I personally like the Nightbringer from Nightfall. Had a few Gahial's but gave them all away to guildies. I also have a gold staff that has very nice mods on it that don't have extra hp, I switch between the gold staff, and the Nightbringer.

azizul1975 · Dec 14, 2007, 02:22 AM // 02:22

i think nightbringer is the best coz it gives u 40% (or is it 36%) chance of half casting time, since many death magic spell have 2 or more seconds of casting time.

before that i like the woespreader becoz the +60hp allow me to play around with major runes.

i never like ghial's. the +1 death magic (20% chance) is overhyped....

You can't see me · Dec 14, 2007, 03:02 AM // 03:02

I agree, the Nightbringer is the way to go. Cheap, and easy to find. Wand/Odffhand sets take too long to find the right combo for the right price when it comes to greens.

Dec 12, 2007, 11:51 PM // 23:51	#1
Online Gamer Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: HELL!! Profession: D/Mo	Death Magic Weapons What is the best one for Prophecies and Nightfall (Factions is obvious,Ghials Staff) Last edited by Online Gamer; Dec 12, 2007 at 11:54 PM // 23:54..

Dec 12, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53	#2
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	Ghial's is actually not too good. A 20/20 Wand and Artifact is the 'best' overall for a PvE necro, allowing you to cast more skills overall than any other combo.

Dec 12, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56	#3
Online Gamer Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: HELL!! Profession: D/Mo	Hmmm. I just liked it because it halves recharge time havles casting time and and add +1 dm

Dec 13, 2007, 12:30 AM // 00:30	#4
Darkobra Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot Profession: E/Me	+1 Death Magic is very miniscule for a minion master. It's not as good as people hype it up to be.

Dec 13, 2007, 12:35 AM // 00:35	#5
Online Gamer Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: HELL!! Profession: D/Mo	I dunno that extra 1-2 levels that you gain from the +1 might be helpful

Dec 13, 2007, 12:37 AM // 00:37	#6
street peddler Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2007	in nightfall go for The Nightbringer

Dec 13, 2007, 01:04 AM // 01:04	#7
Dante the Warlord Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/R	Assuming you are an mm... You wanna just use a 20% HCT 20% HSR offhand and a 20% HSR +5 energy or 20% HCT.. Halves Skill Recharge is really important for a minion master since producing a lot of minions is ideal. A lot of the skills take a while to recharge and you need to produce more minions then are being killed off.

Dec 13, 2007, 01:17 AM // 01:17	#9
jrk247 Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]	Death req. staff with HSR/HCT 20%, +15 energy, +30 health, or +60 health (hale head and fortitude wrap). +1/20% DM is crap, +health/energy is actually useful.

Dec 13, 2007, 02:07 AM // 02:07	#10
BigDave Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Guild: The Sapphire Rose [TSR]	Ideally as a MM you don't wan't +HP mods on your weapons, assuming you use [skill]blood of the master[/skill] to keep your minions alive. More HP = more health sacced. For me personally i prefer either a staff or martial weapon with a +20% enchant mod, and +energy because i use [skill]aura of the lich[/skill], [skill]dark bond[/skill] and [skill]mystic regeneration[/skill] on the rare occassion i run a MM build. For greens i'd go for the [wiki]Grim Ghostly Staff[/wiki] from Nightfall, or any of the Droknars Death weapons or the SR staff if you have EotN (i know you didn't ask for EotN weapons but i'm just saying fyi). Ghials is ok but the DM+1(20%) mod could be better imo. Depends what kind of MM you wanna run really and your personal preference.

Dec 13, 2007, 03:14 AM // 03:14	#11
Onarik Amrak Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Astral Revenants Profession: P/W	You'd probably want something with 20/20/20 and maybe 20% enchants.

Dec 13, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17	#12
Olim Chill Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Guild: DMI Profession: N/	A 40/40 set can really keep you rolling. I recommend that. +1 DM 20% is more tease than please.

Dec 13, 2007, 06:20 PM // 18:20	#13
free_fall Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005	There's always Bortak's Claw from Prom - 5^50, 20% HCT Death - or Torub's Wand from NF - 5^50, 10% HSR - coupled with you favorite off-hand. I prefer to use the 12/15/-1/+30H ones myself. I did just recently get a Factions drop - 12/15/-1/+1 Death 20%, Konrru's Fervor.

Dec 13, 2007, 09:10 PM // 21:10	#14
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	I use a staff with the following stats: +10 energy 11-22 Cold Damage (req 10 Death Magic) HSR 20% +15 energy/-1 regen (inscription) +5 energy (head) +1 Death Magic 20% (wrapping) I like the +1 Death as it allows my minions to be a higher level and do more damage. The alternatives were Fortitude, Valor, Endurance, Devotion, Enchanting, Defense, Shelter, Warding, or Slaying. Since I don't want more health for Life Sacrifice, and don't need more armor due to Dark Bond, that leaves Slaying or Mastery. Slaying is highly limited, and of no use for a MM. I could change the head and/or inscription for a HCT mod, but with Bloodstained insignia, I don't see a need for it. When I run builds other than MM, but still use Death Magic, it allows me to do more damage, so I definitely like the +1 mod. I use +1 on almost all my caster classes except Monk, although I do if I Smite

Dec 13, 2007, 09:53 PM // 21:53	#15
margretli Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: N/W	I personally like the Nightbringer from Nightfall. Had a few Gahial's but gave them all away to guildies. I also have a gold staff that has very nice mods on it that don't have extra hp, I switch between the gold staff, and the Nightbringer.

Dec 14, 2007, 02:22 AM // 02:22	#16
azizul1975 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GMT+8 Guild: The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO) Profession: Mo/	i think nightbringer is the best coz it gives u 40% (or is it 36%) chance of half casting time, since many death magic spell have 2 or more seconds of casting time. before that i like the woespreader becoz the +60hp allow me to play around with major runes. i never like ghial's. the +1 death magic (20% chance) is overhyped....

Dec 14, 2007, 03:02 AM // 03:02	#17
You can't see me Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Profession: P/W	I agree, the Nightbringer is the way to go. Cheap, and easy to find. Wand/Odffhand sets take too long to find the right combo for the right price when it comes to greens.