Ursanway?? - Guild Wars Forums

The Far Shooter · Nov 19, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36

I've seen people doing a team build called the 'Ursanway' where they use 5 ursans I think and 3 monks. So these 'ursans' use Ursan Blessing - I know that much

- but do they use the massive damage Ursan skills or what? I'm confused about this as I wanna try it out as Ursan teams seem popular in DoA and I wanna beat the Mallyx. :P

Faith Falls Fast · Nov 19, 2007, 10:25 PM // 22:25

Basically, yes.
It will be nerfed soon I have no doubt of though, so you better hurry up.
I don't support Ursanway, as it takes making actual builds for DoA totally obsolete.

Guns Up! · Nov 19, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29

Gw always nerfing stuff

freaky naughty · Nov 19, 2007, 10:47 PM // 22:47

Ursanway is currently the closest you'll ever get to unstoppable in GW, you better take advantage of it because it's extremely overpowered, not that I want to see it go, I haven't even gotten GWEN yet. Guns sometimes nerfing isn't a bad thing. You know most of the time it's a rather good thing unless it's a complete uber rape like Incoming and Soul Reaping.

The Far Shooter · Nov 20, 2007, 04:50 PM // 16:50

But how does it work? You go in mob and mashing everything with Ursan skills.. I know this is kinda noob but I have heard some misleading things...

Coridan · Nov 20, 2007, 05:45 PM // 17:45

pretty much what you said...try to spike your targets with your teammates...haveing someone call the attack works well. spam you 1,2,3,4 when they are charged...try not to overlap #3 but it doesn't really matter.

Abedeus · Nov 20, 2007, 05:51 PM // 17:51

It's like wammoes' dream come true. You just charge into a group of monsters with 5 other ursaners and whack the hell out of them. Nightfall is a piece of cake with Ursan Blessing.

pkodyssey · Nov 20, 2007, 07:30 PM // 19:30

So is,

FoW
UW
DoA
Urgoz

We have discovered that 5 real "Ursanway'rs" and 3 hero monks keep the fun from never ending. 3 Monks can absorb all the damage and not run out of energy. 2 Monks slows things down marginally. So far thats all I have tried with it. It makes any class a WAMMO!

Let the beatings begin!

Messy · Nov 21, 2007, 12:33 AM // 00:33

Don't they normally Nerf skills to *balance* them for PvP? This is a PvE skill, that allows some players to play areas they might not have been able to access due to profession. Not often would you see a group taking a mesmer, or an assassin.. to DoA.... I really can't imagine why ANET would Nerf it.

Racthoh · Nov 21, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

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Originally Posted by Dont Mess WithMe

Don't they normally Nerf skills to *balance* them for PvP? This is a PvE skill, that allows some players to play areas they might not have been able to access due to profession. Not often would you see a group taking a mesmer, or an assassin.. to DoA.... I really can't imagine why ANET would Nerf it.

A number of PvE only skills were weakened in the past, no reason why they couldn't do it again.

Vinraith · Nov 21, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42

It's a pity it's been allowed to go on as long as it has, really. Removing all thought, strategy, and skill from the game by putting a big "you win" button on your skill bar isn't what I'd call good for the game.

Lady S Shiva · Nov 21, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14

enjoy it before anet nerf it, get some stuff for ur hom with the easy way

Narcin · Nov 21, 2007, 04:02 AM // 04:02

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Originally Posted by pkodyssey

We have discovered that 5 real "Ursanway'rs" and 3 hero monks keep the fun from never ending. 3 Monks can absorb all the damage and not run out of energy. 2 Monks slows things down marginally. So far thats all I have tried with it. It makes any class a WAMMO!

And to make it easier consumables are used things like armor of salvation. also some people run paragon shouters which work really well too

holababe · Nov 21, 2007, 04:05 AM // 04:05

Essence of Celerity is very important, makes the run much easier/faster

cyber88 · Nov 21, 2007, 04:11 AM // 04:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faith Falls Fast

Basically, yes.
It will be nerfed soon I have no doubt of though, so you better hurry up.
I don't support Ursanway, as it takes making actual builds for DoA totally obsolete.

I see. You support cookie cutter builds that only take in specific professions? Hmmmmzzz.....

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Originally Posted by freaky naughty

Ursanway is currently the closest you'll ever get to unstoppable in GW, you better take advantage of it because it's extremely overpowered, not that I want to see it go, I haven't even gotten GWEN yet. Guns sometimes nerfing isn't a bad thing. You know most of the time it's a rather good thing unless it's a complete uber rape like Incoming and Soul Reaping.

It is not even close to unstoppable. I got own in DoA doing Ursanway in Gloom & Foundry. I know I will be call noob but wth. Even with Ursan Blessing, it still need a compentent player to use the build. The correct mob must be targeted if not, it will be the same as the "normal" DoA builds which only wants specific professions. It may be another cookie cutter build but it allows all other professions to join and not only the "holy trinity". To end off, I am neither against nerfing or want the nerf.

strcpy · Nov 21, 2007, 04:53 AM // 04:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dont Mess WithMe

Don't they normally Nerf skills to *balance* them for PvP? This is a PvE skill, that allows some players to play areas they might not have been able to access due to profession. Not often would you see a group taking a mesmer, or an assassin.. to DoA.... I really can't imagine why ANET would Nerf it.

They "balance" for both sides - however "balance" doesn't mean the same thing to both sides.

In PvE's case it needs to be disruptive - see the addition of dying nightmares to the UW for anerf to a farming run that was causing massive inflation. The nerfs to previous PvE skills were because they either destroyed build variety in that they were absolutely demanded to be used or they didn't promote the class intended (one of the paragon skills).

It is arguable if Ursan Blessing falls into either category, at least so far I see no change in the cookie cutter builds, the only thing is the addition of less wanted classes forming UB groups to clear areas that the community would not allow before. As long as it remains that way I doubt Anet is going to care - in fact the whole goal of the PvE only skills was to allow the less used classes into groups and allow more casual and less skilled to play/beat those areas. As far as I can tell 90% of the complaints are that the skills are working as intended, just that a certain section of gamers do not like the intention.

I don't know where they draw the line on "required skill" - that is, at what point is the demand for an Ursanway team going to cause a nerf. But arguing that now anyone can play those areas is going to fall on fairly deaf ears.

Crom The Pale · Nov 21, 2007, 02:51 PM // 14:51

The skill is powerfull but you still need to be at least a competent player in a good team to actually win in DoA.

Knowing what mobs to hit first when to pull/agro and what targets are highest priority still matters.

cyber88 · Nov 22, 2007, 12:38 AM // 00:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

The skill is powerfull but you still need to be at least a competent player in a good team to actually win in DoA.

Knowing what mobs to hit first when to pull/agro and what targets are highest priority still matters.

I agree with you.

DarkGanni · Nov 22, 2007, 03:01 AM // 03:01

Ursan Blessing = Elite skill with ONLY 2 Damage Skills now tell me what the hell you need to nerf there more than it already is....This is an Obsession EVERY popular build is nerfed. First of all its PvE and its fun playing so why take the fun out of it, It makes DoA easy yes but also makes it fun yet a nerf is approaching and gonna take away that fun.

strcpy · Nov 22, 2007, 06:04 AM // 06:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkGanni

Ursan Blessing = Elite skill with ONLY 2 Damage Skills now tell me what the hell you need to nerf there more than it already is....This is an Obsession EVERY popular build is nerfed. First of all its PvE and its fun playing so why take the fun out of it, It makes DoA easy yes but also makes it fun yet a nerf is approaching and gonna take away that fun.

I'm generally not one to notice such things - arguments tend to stand on their own or not - however go back and look at all the "nerf UB" posts and most come from two, maybe three guilds. Those guilds are known for working VERY hard to create a fast farming team build (along with the requisite experience to run it) for the "elite" areas and amassing a LARGE bank account from that. The complaints are also known to follow the lines of "Now anyone can do it and this will destroy the game due to it being made easier".

It has already been argued to death (and I suggest joining one of the other UB threads to continue it) if they are, due to their unquestioned depth of knowledge of the game prescient, or due to their want of a protected market place selfish. It can easily be taken both ways. Personally there is something to be said for both viewpoints (we need difficulty, higher end items, and accessibility to the "normal" people), though in one of the other threads I was pushed into one of those standpoints due to some terrible logic from the other side even though I don't really view one as being more legitimate than the other.

Nov 19, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36	#1
The Far Shooter Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: Teutonic Monks [Holy] Profession: R/	Ursanway?? I've seen people doing a team build called the 'Ursanway' where they use 5 ursans I think and 3 monks. So these 'ursans' use Ursan Blessing - I know that much - but do they use the massive damage Ursan skills or what? I'm confused about this as I wanna try it out as Ursan teams seem popular in DoA and I wanna beat the Mallyx. :P

Nov 21, 2007, 12:33 AM // 00:33	#9
Messy huh? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Follow the rainbow, make a left and voila Guild: Guildless Profession: R/	Don't they normally Nerf skills to balance them for PvP? This is a PvE skill, that allows some players to play areas they might not have been able to access due to profession. Not often would you see a group taking a mesmer, or an assassin.. to DoA.... I really can't imagine why ANET would Nerf it. __________________ HABLO ESPA??OL

Nov 19, 2007, 10:25 PM // 22:25	#2
Faith Falls Fast Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2007	Basically, yes. It will be nerfed soon I have no doubt of though, so you better hurry up. I don't support Ursanway, as it takes making actual builds for DoA totally obsolete.

Nov 19, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29	#3
Guns Up! Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Michigan Profession: Rt/	Gw always nerfing stuff

Nov 19, 2007, 10:47 PM // 22:47	#4
freaky naughty Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: Mo/N	Ursanway is currently the closest you'll ever get to unstoppable in GW, you better take advantage of it because it's extremely overpowered, not that I want to see it go, I haven't even gotten GWEN yet. Guns sometimes nerfing isn't a bad thing. You know most of the time it's a rather good thing unless it's a complete uber rape like Incoming and Soul Reaping.

Nov 20, 2007, 04:50 PM // 16:50	#5
The Far Shooter Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: Teutonic Monks [Holy] Profession: R/	But how does it work? You go in mob and mashing everything with Ursan skills.. I know this is kinda noob but I have heard some misleading things...

Nov 20, 2007, 05:45 PM // 17:45	#6
Coridan Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: US Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG} Profession: W/	pretty much what you said...try to spike your targets with your teammates...haveing someone call the attack works well. spam you 1,2,3,4 when they are charged...try not to overlap #3 but it doesn't really matter.

Nov 20, 2007, 05:51 PM // 17:51	#7
Abedeus Grotto Attendant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Niflheim Profession: R/	It's like wammoes' dream come true. You just charge into a group of monsters with 5 other ursaners and whack the hell out of them. Nightfall is a piece of cake with Ursan Blessing.

Nov 20, 2007, 07:30 PM // 19:30	#8
pkodyssey Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In a cardboard box with Internet Guild: The Order of the Frozen Tundra (TofT) Profession: N/	So is, FoW UW DoA Urgoz We have discovered that 5 real "Ursanway'rs" and 3 hero monks keep the fun from never ending. 3 Monks can absorb all the damage and not run out of energy. 2 Monks slows things down marginally. So far thats all I have tried with it. It makes any class a WAMMO! Let the beatings begin!

Nov 21, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42	#11
Vinraith Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2006	It's a pity it's been allowed to go on as long as it has, really. Removing all thought, strategy, and skill from the game by putting a big "you win" button on your skill bar isn't what I'd call good for the game.

Nov 21, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14	#12
Lady S Shiva Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: CA Guild: LOD??? Profession: W/Mo	enjoy it before anet nerf it, get some stuff for ur hom with the easy way

Nov 21, 2007, 04:05 AM // 04:05	#14
holababe Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: Goon Squad [LLJK] Profession: Mo/	Essence of Celerity is very important, makes the run much easier/faster

Nov 21, 2007, 02:51 PM // 14:51	#17
Crom The Pale Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Ageis Ascending Profession: W/	The skill is powerfull but you still need to be at least a competent player in a good team to actually win in DoA. Knowing what mobs to hit first when to pull/agro and what targets are highest priority still matters.

Nov 22, 2007, 03:01 AM // 03:01	#19
DarkGanni Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Malta Guild: [CuTe] Profession: E/	Ursan Blessing = Elite skill with ONLY 2 Damage Skills now tell me what the hell you need to nerf there more than it already is....This is an Obsession EVERY popular build is nerfed. First of all its PvE and its fun playing so why take the fun out of it, It makes DoA easy yes but also makes it fun yet a nerf is approaching and gonna take away that fun.