Best presearing character? - Guild Wars Forums

RoscoeWallace · Mar 10, 2010, 07:34 PM // 19:34

I've searched for an answer to this, but all I've been able to find are what people prefer, not actually what is the best (most powerful). I had a level 16 E/Mo once, and that was pretty powerful even though the monk secondary was useless. I only equipped bane signet for knockdown.

I'm guessing Ele is the most powerful primary, but I'm wondering if Necro for the minions or Ranger for the pet/troll ungent. Possibly warrior for heal sig.

All suggestions welcomed.

-Makai- · Mar 10, 2010, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Go N/R with Animate Bone Horror and Comfort Animal. If you have it, use the imp stone and you've got an army at your fingertips.

Laraja · Mar 10, 2010, 08:08 PM // 20:08

100% what Sante said. If I want a pre-searing toon to gather collectables for Nick I always roll a necro with a ranger secondary and get my fire imp from the /bonus and level up my pet. It may not be super elegant, but it's a no-nonsence way to get through pre-searing and you can change your secondary later.

cognophile · Mar 10, 2010, 08:13 PM // 20:13

I think the answer depends on your definition of "best".

A high level warrior with full knight's insignias can survive and eventually destroy any single charr group. Warriors are also probably best at setting up charr for death leveling (6 groups or whatever, if you really need to do that...).

A high level elementalist can quickly nuke and destroy any group that is balled up.

A high level ranger with max damage bow is great for farming low level enemies that are spread out.

Monks are great for charr hunting with a partner. Not much need to slow down and heal.

Mesmers are able to solo charr hunt in the northlands at lower levels than other classes, such as level 6.

I'm sure necromancers are also powerful, but I haven't really played one in pre.

aeligos · Mar 10, 2010, 08:27 PM // 20:27

mesmers

ftw

easy

-.-

FlexBuffchest45 · Mar 10, 2010, 09:16 PM // 21:16

E/R. Level your pet up, let him tank, and kill everything at the altar in under two minutes. There is no more powerful class than the ele in pre.

Nercos are also very good, but ele will always be faster.

Warvic · Mar 10, 2010, 09:30 PM // 21:30

I have a war in pre. But I heard ranger's are the best followed by warriors, eles and necros (dunno what order). A ranger with an Goty bow and fire imp = overkill. Note: Powershot has been nerfed.

Mesmers can indeed solo very early. One of my favo profs to play in pre. Standing behind walls, spamming backfire and empathy >.>

Oh, another reason why rangers are good. (Also as secondary!!) Is "Troll unguent" and a pet for meatshield.

RoscoeWallace · Mar 10, 2010, 10:09 PM // 22:09

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Originally Posted by Warvic

I have a war in pre. But I heard ranger's are the best followed by warriors, eles and necros (dunno what order). A ranger with an Goty bow and fire imp = overkill. Note: Powershot has been nerfed.

Mesmers can indeed solo very early. One of my favo profs to play in pre. Standing behind walls, spamming backfire and empathy >.>

Oh, another reason why rangers are good. (Also as secondary!!) Is "Troll unguent" and a pet for meatshield.

I was wondering about W/E. Gather them up, firestorm, sever, gash. I'll have to test out the tanking abilities of a fully equipped warrior in pre. From the above comments it looks as if E/R or E/N would be the best choice.

Thx everyone.

Kook~NBK~ · Mar 10, 2010, 10:12 PM // 22:12

E/R or Me/R - Both have powerful spells (Fire Storm is arguably the most powerful skill in Pre-Searing, and the baddies can't escape Backfire or Empathy), and having a pet along + access to Troll Unguent come in very handy.

cognophile · Mar 10, 2010, 10:38 PM // 22:38

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Originally Posted by RoscoeWallace

I was wondering about W/E. Gather them up, firestorm, sever, gash. I'll have to test out the tanking abilities of a fully equipped warrior in pre. From the above comments it looks as if E/R or E/N would be the best choice.

If you like nuking, definitely go ele with firestorm.

For a tanking warrior, I'd suggest bringing either ether feast or troll unguent, which are both good skills even with 0 attribute points in them. Frenzy can also be your friend (sometimes).

Trinity Fire Angel · Mar 10, 2010, 11:04 PM // 23:04

Monks cause their armour looks hot in black! Have a monk with a black bear and get your fire imp on for some solo pwnage.

RoscoeWallace · Mar 10, 2010, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by Trinity Fire Angel

Monks cause their armour looks hot in black! Have a monk with a black bear and get your fire imp on for some solo pwnage.

How were you able to charm the bear? He always interrupts me.

Eragon Zarroc · Mar 10, 2010, 11:12 PM // 23:12

ranger with max bonus bow ftw. troll ungent heals. elemental dmg armor +30. pro leet sauce

Princess Blades · Mar 10, 2010, 11:26 PM // 23:26

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Originally Posted by RoscoeWallace

How were you able to charm the bear? He always interrupts me.

you have to get someone to help you. I'm not sure of the process exactly but I do know you need two people.

Trinity Fire Angel · Mar 10, 2010, 11:27 PM // 23:27

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Originally Posted by RoscoeWallace

How were you able to charm the bear? He always interrupts me.

you need two people. there is a trick which i learned a long time ago. i think you have to have the bear attack your friend and you start charming the bear while your friend moves away from you and takes the bear out of your aggro range. it takes a number of tries, but you can get it eventually.

there is an excellent guide on presearing.com

Xenex Xclame · Mar 11, 2010, 12:38 AM // 00:38

I looked this up a while ago, when I decide to make a pre searing char for nick gifts.

I came to the conclusion that the ranger is the best choice,They can use all the skills they get without much problem on attributes, you can leave your BM down and have more points to use on other stuff that way, or you not raise your WS that much for a less effective Troll, but with points to use in other attributes, like BM.

The casters have a problem with having spread attributed skills,the mesmer is not a bad choice since it has a nice healing ether feast,it however has shatter delusion without a real skill to feed it with and also has backfire, which might not be such of great use because of the cost/cast time/recharge, empathy however is good, because everything attacks even casters, and it doesn't have that bad of a c/ct/r.

The elementalist has Eruption, which again has a very high cost and recharge, but which can be made more effective if you use shard storm to keep at least one enemy in it.I would rather take lightning javelin for the interrupt effect then take flare for the spamming.

Necro is a also a good choice because of blood magic you focus points into BM DM and SR , you keep renewing your minion when you can, and you use your BM skills when you have enough energy for them.You have 4 healing skills and 3 of them also damage your enemy, so you should not have problems with health if you watch your energy.

Monk is a pretty bad choice, your good at healing, but in pre it is not really needed,your damage is pretty weak, your two active damage skills have too high or a recharge to be effective,you could make a build with retribution and shielding hands, even better if you can get a enchant bonus, or hsr , but I'm not sure if those drop in pre or how shielding hands works with retribution.

The warrior is pretty gimped in pre, your alost certainly gonna be running sword because the other choices are pretty bad, executioner's 8 adrenaline cost is too high in pre and cyclone axe is too conditional to be effective.Hammer Bash is weak alone and you wont want to be using it with frenzy so your stuck with sword, which will be effective but slow, since you wont be doing high damage.

Well, I already said what I though was the best choice, but I just wanted to post on the others too :P, feel free to skip if you want.

Trinity Fire Angel · Mar 11, 2010, 02:09 AM // 02:09

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Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame

Monk is a pretty bad choice, your good at healing, but in pre it is not really needed,your damage is pretty weak, your two active damage skills have too high or a recharge to be effective,you could make a build with retribution and shielding hands, even better if you can get a enchant bonus, or hsr , but I'm not sure if those drop in pre or how shielding hands works with retribution.

you have a fire imp for a reason. i use my fire imp as dmg (my own littler personal elementalist) and just heal him. he doesn;t steal any experience points and pretty much kills everything. for farming, you can also choose to go secondary Mo/N and create a little minion army when farming scale and stuff. you will rip thru areas like nothing else especially once you get closer to L14.

This set up is pretty good for soloing charr and the bosses, except you might want to go Mo/E. It is excellent for farming bandits for dye and farming anything especially. Being Ranger or Mo/E is also damn good for deathlevel setups as you have excellent surviveability whilst pulling once you reach L16. i can deathlevel setup at L14 but i know its not worth it yet.

gl & hf

-Makai- · Mar 11, 2010, 09:39 AM // 09:39

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Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame

The elementalist has Eruption, which again has a very high cost and recharge, but which can be made more effective if you use shard storm to keep at least one enemy in it.I would rather take lightning javelin for the interrupt effect then take flare for the spamming.

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but you can't get any Earth or Water Magic skills in Pre.

Trinity Fire Angel · Mar 11, 2010, 10:00 AM // 10:00

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Originally Posted by Sante_Kelm

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but you can't get any Earth or Water Magic skills in Pre.

i agree. i beleive you don;t start getting any earth skills until around yaks bend. water skills start appearing after you get past lions arch i believe.

Kamatsu · Mar 11, 2010, 10:18 AM // 10:18

The skill he stated - Shard Storm, is available from Old Ascalon onwards. It's gotten by doing the quest Shalev's Tale.

So yeah, that skill won't be available in pre-searing. Check out this page from presearing.com to see what skill are available in presearing for each class.

Mar 10, 2010, 07:34 PM // 19:34	#1
RoscoeWallace Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2010 Guild: Blt Profession: N/A	Best presearing character? I've searched for an answer to this, but all I've been able to find are what people prefer, not actually what is the best (most powerful). I had a level 16 E/Mo once, and that was pretty powerful even though the monk secondary was useless. I only equipped bane signet for knockdown. I'm guessing Ele is the most powerful primary, but I'm wondering if Necro for the minions or Ranger for the pet/troll ungent. Possibly warrior for heal sig. All suggestions welcomed.

Mar 11, 2010, 10:18 AM // 10:18	#20
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	The skill he stated - Shard Storm, is available from Old Ascalon onwards. It's gotten by doing the quest Shalev's Tale. So yeah, that skill won't be available in pre-searing. Check out this page from presearing.com to see what skill are available in presearing for each class. __________________ Have a moderation related issue or just want to chat? Send me a PM

Mar 10, 2010, 07:42 PM // 19:42	#2
-Makai- Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2007 Location: WA Guild: DH Profession: Rt/	Go N/R with Animate Bone Horror and Comfort Animal. If you have it, use the imp stone and you've got an army at your fingertips.

Mar 10, 2010, 08:08 PM // 20:08	#3
Laraja Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow Guild: Descendents of Honor Profession: Rt/	100% what Sante said. If I want a pre-searing toon to gather collectables for Nick I always roll a necro with a ranger secondary and get my fire imp from the /bonus and level up my pet. It may not be super elegant, but it's a no-nonsence way to get through pre-searing and you can change your secondary later.

Mar 10, 2010, 08:13 PM // 20:13	#4
cognophile Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: USA	I think the answer depends on your definition of "best". A high level warrior with full knight's insignias can survive and eventually destroy any single charr group. Warriors are also probably best at setting up charr for death leveling (6 groups or whatever, if you really need to do that...). A high level elementalist can quickly nuke and destroy any group that is balled up. A high level ranger with max damage bow is great for farming low level enemies that are spread out. Monks are great for charr hunting with a partner. Not much need to slow down and heal. Mesmers are able to solo charr hunt in the northlands at lower levels than other classes, such as level 6. I'm sure necromancers are also powerful, but I haven't really played one in pre.

Mar 10, 2010, 08:27 PM // 20:27	#5
aeligos Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Guild: Fortituro Et Fides	mesmers ftw easy -.-

Mar 10, 2010, 09:16 PM // 21:16	#6
FlexBuffchest45 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: West Coast Profession: W/	E/R. Level your pet up, let him tank, and kill everything at the altar in under two minutes. There is no more powerful class than the ele in pre. Nercos are also very good, but ele will always be faster.

Mar 10, 2010, 09:30 PM // 21:30	#7
Warvic Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Netherlands Profession: A/W	I have a war in pre. But I heard ranger's are the best followed by warriors, eles and necros (dunno what order). A ranger with an Goty bow and fire imp = overkill. Note: Powershot has been nerfed. Mesmers can indeed solo very early. One of my favo profs to play in pre. Standing behind walls, spamming backfire and empathy >.> Oh, another reason why rangers are good. (Also as secondary!!) Is "Troll unguent" and a pet for meatshield.

Mar 10, 2010, 10:12 PM // 22:12	#9
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	E/R or Me/R - Both have powerful spells (Fire Storm is arguably the most powerful skill in Pre-Searing, and the baddies can't escape Backfire or Empathy), and having a pet along + access to Troll Unguent come in very handy.

Mar 10, 2010, 11:04 PM // 23:04	#11
Trinity Fire Angel Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Desert Guild: Legions of Engalion [自由] Profession: Mo/W	Monks cause their armour looks hot in black! Have a monk with a black bear and get your fire imp on for some solo pwnage.

Mar 10, 2010, 11:12 PM // 23:12	#13
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	ranger with max bonus bow ftw. troll ungent heals. elemental dmg armor +30. pro leet sauce

Mar 11, 2010, 12:38 AM // 00:38	#16
Xenex Xclame Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: DPX Profession: R/	I looked this up a while ago, when I decide to make a pre searing char for nick gifts. I came to the conclusion that the ranger is the best choice,They can use all the skills they get without much problem on attributes, you can leave your BM down and have more points to use on other stuff that way, or you not raise your WS that much for a less effective Troll, but with points to use in other attributes, like BM. The casters have a problem with having spread attributed skills,the mesmer is not a bad choice since it has a nice healing ether feast,it however has shatter delusion without a real skill to feed it with and also has backfire, which might not be such of great use because of the cost/cast time/recharge, empathy however is good, because everything attacks even casters, and it doesn't have that bad of a c/ct/r. The elementalist has Eruption, which again has a very high cost and recharge, but which can be made more effective if you use shard storm to keep at least one enemy in it.I would rather take lightning javelin for the interrupt effect then take flare for the spamming. Necro is a also a good choice because of blood magic you focus points into BM DM and SR , you keep renewing your minion when you can, and you use your BM skills when you have enough energy for them.You have 4 healing skills and 3 of them also damage your enemy, so you should not have problems with health if you watch your energy. Monk is a pretty bad choice, your good at healing, but in pre it is not really needed,your damage is pretty weak, your two active damage skills have too high or a recharge to be effective,you could make a build with retribution and shielding hands, even better if you can get a enchant bonus, or hsr , but I'm not sure if those drop in pre or how shielding hands works with retribution. The warrior is pretty gimped in pre, your alost certainly gonna be running sword because the other choices are pretty bad, executioner's 8 adrenaline cost is too high in pre and cyclone axe is too conditional to be effective.Hammer Bash is weak alone and you wont want to be using it with frenzy so your stuck with sword, which will be effective but slow, since you wont be doing high damage. Well, I already said what I though was the best choice, but I just wanted to post on the others too :P, feel free to skip if you want.