Just bought GW1 - Starting with LDoA - Guild Wars Forums

Inferos · Jan 12, 2012, 03:25 PM // 15:25

So I just bought the game, logged in and ran around town to get used to the controls and what not... did some reading on a few classes and abilities, general gameplay, etc..

Then I decided the first thing I will do is tackle the Defender of Ascalon title. So a character was born, with the intentions of grinding out Level 20 before doing anything else. I have the general idea on how to do this, no clue where the specific areas are though.

Great idea or greatest idea?

Next on my list is Legendary Survivor.

Kook~NBK~ · Jan 12, 2012, 03:33 PM // 15:33

Personally, I wouldn't start out as a newbie going for LDoA, but whatever floats your boat. The nice thing is that if you decide you need a break from grinding out LDoA, you've got more character slots to play around with.

As for all things Pre-Searing, www.presearing.com is probably your best resource. Good luck, have fun, and welcome to the world of Guild Wars.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Jan 12, 2012, 04:14 PM // 16:14

the first thing what comes in mind to me when its pre sear, is fire imp stone
this summon stone can be used forever until lvl 20, but costs money

it makes so much stuff easier, but i dont know if you could afford/pay that

i dont know if its a must have, but it sure makes stuff easier by far, as it has your lvl, and can be used for the vanguard quests, which allow you to get xp from both enemies and quest rewards

these quests start from lvl 10

as Kook said: look at presearing.com for more info and tips you can use, some things may be outdated, but you can learn alot from it

also, use the american districts, as they are very active and there's lot of nice people (of course there are less nice people, but thats anywhere)

i hope you enjoy GW, and get enough help for that title and other stuff in GW
good luck

M3G · Jan 12, 2012, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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Originally Posted by Inferos

So I just bought the game, [...]

Then I decided the first thing I will do is tackle the Defender of Ascalon title. [...]

Great idea or greatest idea?

Next on my list is Legendary Survivor.

My bet is that GW will finish on your shelf in less than one a week if you do this as your first gw experience.
This game as a LOT to show and presearing (although very nice area and a dedicated player base) is just 1% of the game.

Play the game normaly you will get enough titles for GW2

**cosyfiep** · Jan 12, 2012, 04:35 PM // 16:35

you have a few characters slots...yes you could leave one in pre-searing to work on ldoa...but I would suggest making another and taking it thru the searing and find out what the game is really about (pre-searing is really just the tutorial, the game doesnt really begin until the searing).
I would suggest playing around with the other classes as well--you have the character slots--use them to see the world.

gremlin · Jan 12, 2012, 05:21 PM // 17:21

There are 2 ways to get this title and neither of them are fun to do.

One involves death leveling where you allow a group of monsters to repeatedly kill you near a res shrine, you can look up the details if you want to take this rout.
The second involves not taking any mission rewards till your 9th level then you take the rewards to get you to 10th, check the details online for the exact point to begin accepting rewards.
After this there are 1000 xp pt missions you can repeat till you get to 20th.
Its tedious from 7th to 9th level because so few creatures give you any xp.

Note to anet here, its about time you altered the game to allow players to take the 1000 xp pt quests at a lower level or offered some other method.
GW is all about having fun but getting this title is all about tedium, new players are bound to try for it and get bored of the whole game for no good reason.

The other titles come at a later date when you know what your getting into.
Make this title at least an interesting achievement for new players even if this somehow devalues it for older players.

Inferos · Jan 12, 2012, 05:52 PM // 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by gremlin

There are 2 ways to get this title and neither of them are fun to do.

One involves death leveling where you allow a group of monsters to repeatedly kill you near a res shrine, you can look up the details if you want to take this rout.
The second involves not taking any mission rewards till your 9th level then you take the rewards to get you to 10th, check the details online for the exact point to begin accepting rewards.
After this there are 1000 xp pt missions you can repeat till you get to 20th.
Its tedious from 7th to 9th level because so few creatures give you any xp.

Note to anet here, its about time you altered the game to allow players to take the 1000 xp pt quests at a lower level or offered some other method.
GW is all about having fun but getting this title is all about tedium, new players are bound to try for it and get bored of the whole game for no good reason.

The other titles come at a later date when you know what your getting into.
Make this title at least an interesting achievement for new players even if this somehow devalues it for older players.

See personally I love titles like this. The grinds that take forever are the most fun for me, probably because the sense of relief when they are done.

I am debating on Monk or Mesmer, I think I may go Mesmer for the added challenge.

theblitched · Jan 12, 2012, 06:00 PM // 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by gremlin

There are 2 ways to get this title and neither of them are fun to do.

One involves death leveling where you allow a group of monsters to repeatedly kill you near a res shrine, you can look up the details if you want to take this rout.
The second involves not taking any mission rewards till your 9th level then you take the rewards to get you to 10th, check the details online for the exact point to begin accepting rewards.
After this there are 1000 xp pt missions you can repeat till you get to 20th.
Its tedious from 7th to 9th level because so few creatures give you any xp.

Note to anet here, its about time you altered the game to allow players to take the 1000 xp pt quests at a lower level or offered some other method.
GW is all about having fun but getting this title is all about tedium, new players are bound to try for it and get bored of the whole game for no good reason.

The other titles come at a later date when you know what your getting into.
Make this title at least an interesting achievement for new players even if this somehow devalues it for older players.

They already altered the quests, and Pre-searing isn't a place where you should be lvl 20 normally so it's good that they don't give the quests on a lower level. Also I don't remember lvl 7-10 to be very hard.

MOD EDIT: Removed unnecessary comment.

Highlander Of Alba · Jan 12, 2012, 06:06 PM // 18:06

Hi there,
first of use the /bonus if you have the items. if so you will get an imp to assist you.

little tips,
just take the quests for your profession only leave all others for now
just walk to the outposts that alone will get you to level 5 at least

Do quest ..Charr at the gate once done map back to town ..press L Abandon it...then go see Prince rurik and do it over again...till level 10
From then on you can do the DAILY that award 1k points...but..take quest go out and kill few groups map back out again do this over and over till the next daily is due then take the 1k reward and do the same on the next one.

I have not put the Northlands in as if you are solo then the ones outside the other areas are good for you .
Once you are level 16 do all the quests then take rwerds as from level 16 to 17 the xp is minimal this way all the quests will push you to level 17 .
This is where the monster levels goup and your xp gain is more

As you are new it may take a little time but if you do it this way as new player you can get LDOA in 2 weeks maximum casual play

Inferos · Jan 12, 2012, 06:09 PM // 18:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Highlander Of Alba

Hi there,
first of use the /bonus if you have the items. if so you will get an imp to assist you.

little tips,
just take the quests for your profession only leave all others for now
just walk to the outposts that alone will get you to level 5 at least

Do quest ..Charr at the gate once done map back to town ..press L Abandon it...then go see Prince rurik and do it over again...till level 10
From then on you can do the DAILY that award 1k points...but..take quest go out and kill few groups map back out again do this over and over till the next daily is due then take the 1k reward and do the same on the next one.

I have not put the Northlands in as if you are solo then the ones outside the other areas are good for you .
Once you are level 16 do all the quests then take rwerds as from level 16 to 17 the xp is minimal this way all the quests will push you to level 17 .
This is where the monster levels goup and your xp gain is more

As you are new it may take a little time but if you do it this way as new player you can get LDOA in 2 weeks maximum casual play

Thanks for the tips. I play on average 12-14 hours a day, so hopefully I can crank it out rather fast.

Hardest part is deciding on the class to do it with, as I want to make this my main.

Speaking of that, once I get the title I can exit and continue on to other areas without losing it correct?

Skyy High · Jan 12, 2012, 06:18 PM // 18:18

Wow, that sounds like a terrible idea, unless your goal is to burn out on GW as quickly as possible.

Spending hundreds of hours trying to attain one title before you've even gotten past presearing? Don't do it man. LDoA will always be there for you to get later.

Kook~NBK~ · Jan 12, 2012, 06:26 PM // 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inferos

Thanks for the tips. I play on average 12-14 hours a day, so hopefully I can crank it out rather fast.

Hardest part is deciding on the class to do it with, as I want to make this my main.

Speaking of that, once I get the title I can exit and continue on to other areas without losing it correct?

Once you earn a character-based title like LDoA, the only way you can lose it is if you delete that character. (But it will remain on record in the HoM once recorded there)

drowze · Jan 12, 2012, 06:35 PM // 18:35

My first character reached lvl 20 in either maguuma or the desert, don't remember which. just saying that more than half of prophecies will be boring as hell if you get to level 20 in pre. I got a ldoa recently and first thing I did was get a run to LA... so happy to not have to play through all the low level missions. Of course, that's just me.

turbo234 · Jan 12, 2012, 07:20 PM // 19:20

on the plus side once you reach level 20 and exit presearing,everything will be low level for a while making it a bit easier to get through the game

BrettM · Jan 12, 2012, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by Inferos

Hardest part is deciding on the class to do it with, as I want to make this my main.

I join with the others who are warning you against this way of approaching GW.

However, if you're determined, then I would recommend starting out as Monk/Elementalist or Elementalist/Monk, concentrating on Smiting Prayers and Fire Magic. This combination is quite good at dealing with anything in Pre-Searing, giving you both ranged and point-blank AoE skills, single-target spikes, knockdown, and self-healing.

Whether you choose monk or ele as your primary profession, either one will serve you quite well for the remainder of the game, though elementalist would be a more versatile farmer if you have any ambitions in that direction.

Inferos · Jan 12, 2012, 08:56 PM // 20:56

I'm not worried about burning out, I did a lot of hardcore grinds in one sitting on WoW (have done the Insane grind on 4 characters in the last 2 years, both pre-cata, most in only a couple of sittings - not spread out)... just seems like it would be a good challenge, and I would rather have the title and get it over with first then have to go back and do it.

mentle mesmer · Jan 12, 2012, 09:11 PM // 21:11

if it is your first encounter with GW. DO NOT start with LDoA...

Crom The Pale · Jan 12, 2012, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Inferos, you really have no choice when it comes to this title. What I mean by this is that either you do the daily quests, these can only be done once per day, or you death level foes. Death leveling foes to reach LDoA will take hundreds of hours, not an exageration.

The purpose of pre is just to teach you the basics of the game. There is a massive continent for you to explore full of missions and quests as well as PvP. If you have all chapters then your looking at 3 continents as well as dungeons to explore.

I do understand the wish to have the title on your primary character but in the end it really doesn't matter. If your building up your HoM for GW2 you will max out many titles in the time it takes to complete this one title.

Skyy High · Jan 12, 2012, 10:09 PM // 22:09

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

Inferos, you really have no choice when it comes to this title. What I mean by this is that either you do the daily quests, these can only be done once per day...

Note: best method is do do the quest, get XP from killing the foes, and then abandon the quest before turning it in so you can take it again. Repeat until your done for the day, then accept your reward. Repeat ad nauseum.

T-D-C · Jan 12, 2012, 10:14 PM // 22:14

If you really want to go down this route then I would recommend Ele/Monk

1. Get to level to without doing any quests (farm Quest Charr at the gates, just abandon and retake the quest without getting the reward
2. Start doing Vanguard Quests at level 10, wait for the Farmer Hamnet Quest and don't hand it in, just farm the bandits over and over again.
3. At level 16 do all your quests till you hit level 17
4. Grab the farmer quest again grind out the last few levels.

it will get boring and it is grindy

Jan 12, 2012, 03:25 PM // 15:25	#1
Inferos Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Hell Profession: Rt/	Just bought GW1 - Starting with LDoA So I just bought the game, logged in and ran around town to get used to the controls and what not... did some reading on a few classes and abilities, general gameplay, etc.. Then I decided the first thing I will do is tackle the Defender of Ascalon title. So a character was born, with the intentions of grinding out Level 20 before doing anything else. I have the general idea on how to do this, no clue where the specific areas are though. Great idea or greatest idea? Next on my list is Legendary Survivor. Last edited by Inferos; Jan 12, 2012 at 03:28 PM // 15:28..

Jan 12, 2012, 04:35 PM // 16:35	#5
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	you have a few characters slots...yes you could leave one in pre-searing to work on ldoa...but I would suggest making another and taking it thru the searing and find out what the game is really about (pre-searing is really just the tutorial, the game doesnt really begin until the searing). I would suggest playing around with the other classes as well--you have the character slots--use them to see the world. __________________ where is the 'all you can eat' cookie bar?

Jan 12, 2012, 05:21 PM // 17:21	#6
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	There are 2 ways to get this title and neither of them are fun to do. One involves death leveling where you allow a group of monsters to repeatedly kill you near a res shrine, you can look up the details if you want to take this rout. The second involves not taking any mission rewards till your 9th level then you take the rewards to get you to 10th, check the details online for the exact point to begin accepting rewards. After this there are 1000 xp pt missions you can repeat till you get to 20th. Its tedious from 7th to 9th level because so few creatures give you any xp. Note to anet here, its about time you altered the game to allow players to take the 1000 xp pt quests at a lower level or offered some other method. GW is all about having fun but getting this title is all about tedium, new players are bound to try for it and get bored of the whole game for no good reason. The other titles come at a later date when you know what your getting into. Make this title at least an interesting achievement for new players even if this somehow devalues it for older players. Last edited by gremlin; Jan 12, 2012 at 05:24 PM // 17:24..

Jan 12, 2012, 03:33 PM // 15:33	#2
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	Personally, I wouldn't start out as a newbie going for LDoA, but whatever floats your boat. The nice thing is that if you decide you need a break from grinding out LDoA, you've got more character slots to play around with. As for all things Pre-Searing, www.presearing.com is probably your best resource. Good luck, have fun, and welcome to the world of Guild Wars.

Jan 12, 2012, 04:14 PM // 16:14	#3
Ayuhmii Shanbwa Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Holland Guild: [GaMe] Profession: Rt/	the first thing what comes in mind to me when its pre sear, is fire imp stone this summon stone can be used forever until lvl 20, but costs money it makes so much stuff easier, but i dont know if you could afford/pay that i dont know if its a must have, but it sure makes stuff easier by far, as it has your lvl, and can be used for the vanguard quests, which allow you to get xp from both enemies and quest rewards these quests start from lvl 10 as Kook said: look at presearing.com for more info and tips you can use, some things may be outdated, but you can learn alot from it also, use the american districts, as they are very active and there's lot of nice people (of course there are less nice people, but thats anywhere) i hope you enjoy GW, and get enough help for that title and other stuff in GW good luck

Jan 12, 2012, 06:06 PM // 18:06	#9
Highlander Of Alba Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Real Rogue Clan Profession: Rt/Mo	Hi there, first of use the /bonus if you have the items. if so you will get an imp to assist you. little tips, just take the quests for your profession only leave all others for now just walk to the outposts that alone will get you to level 5 at least Do quest ..Charr at the gate once done map back to town ..press L Abandon it...then go see Prince rurik and do it over again...till level 10 From then on you can do the DAILY that award 1k points...but..take quest go out and kill few groups map back out again do this over and over till the next daily is due then take the 1k reward and do the same on the next one. I have not put the Northlands in as if you are solo then the ones outside the other areas are good for you . Once you are level 16 do all the quests then take rwerds as from level 16 to 17 the xp is minimal this way all the quests will push you to level 17 . This is where the monster levels goup and your xp gain is more As you are new it may take a little time but if you do it this way as new player you can get LDOA in 2 weeks maximum casual play

Jan 12, 2012, 06:18 PM // 18:18	#11
Skyy High Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2006 Profession: R/	Wow, that sounds like a terrible idea, unless your goal is to burn out on GW as quickly as possible. Spending hundreds of hours trying to attain one title before you've even gotten past presearing? Don't do it man. LDoA will always be there for you to get later.

Jan 12, 2012, 06:35 PM // 18:35	#13
drowze Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: SaGa Profession: N/	My first character reached lvl 20 in either maguuma or the desert, don't remember which. just saying that more than half of prophecies will be boring as hell if you get to level 20 in pre. I got a ldoa recently and first thing I did was get a run to LA... so happy to not have to play through all the low level missions. Of course, that's just me.

Jan 12, 2012, 07:20 PM // 19:20	#14
turbo234 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WI Profession: Mo/	on the plus side once you reach level 20 and exit presearing,everything will be low level for a while making it a bit easier to get through the game

Jan 12, 2012, 08:56 PM // 20:56	#16
Inferos Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Hell Profession: Rt/	I'm not worried about burning out, I did a lot of hardcore grinds in one sitting on WoW (have done the Insane grind on 4 characters in the last 2 years, both pre-cata, most in only a couple of sittings - not spread out)... just seems like it would be a good challenge, and I would rather have the title and get it over with first then have to go back and do it.

Jan 12, 2012, 09:11 PM // 21:11	#17
mentle mesmer Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2011	if it is your first encounter with GW. DO NOT start with LDoA...

Jan 12, 2012, 09:44 PM // 21:44	#18
Crom The Pale Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Ageis Ascending Profession: W/	Inferos, you really have no choice when it comes to this title. What I mean by this is that either you do the daily quests, these can only be done once per day, or you death level foes. Death leveling foes to reach LDoA will take hundreds of hours, not an exageration. The purpose of pre is just to teach you the basics of the game. There is a massive continent for you to explore full of missions and quests as well as PvP. If you have all chapters then your looking at 3 continents as well as dungeons to explore. I do understand the wish to have the title on your primary character but in the end it really doesn't matter. If your building up your HoM for GW2 you will max out many titles in the time it takes to complete this one title.

Jan 12, 2012, 10:14 PM // 22:14	#20
T-D-C Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006	If you really want to go down this route then I would recommend Ele/Monk 1. Get to level to without doing any quests (farm Quest Charr at the gates, just abandon and retake the quest without getting the reward 2. Start doing Vanguard Quests at level 10, wait for the Farmer Hamnet Quest and don't hand it in, just farm the bandits over and over again. 3. At level 16 do all your quests till you hit level 17 4. Grab the farmer quest again grind out the last few levels. it will get boring and it is grindy