Curse

Storm Crow · Sep 07, 2005, 01:44 AM // 01:44

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Originally Posted by ahmosesaves

No, it doesn't. Read the skill description again. Actually, I'll do you one better.

Mist Form {Elite} - Enchantment Spell
For 8-18 seconds, you cannot take or deal damage from attacks.
10 energy, 2 second cast time, 30 second recharge.

This means you neither TAKE damage nor DO damage...

duh

Rossaroni · Sep 07, 2005, 02:00 AM // 02:00

No, it doesn't. Attacks are the kind that you do with wands, swords, etc. Spells are not attacks. Skills, i'm not so sure about. I would guess that any skills that did some sort of damage thru an attack would be negated, but any other effects (like cripple from axe rake) would still be effective.

Mist form is nice, but like healing hands, it's only effective against attack-heavy builds, and attackers could always just change targets while the enchantment wears off.

[Edit] In this steamrolling build, we've come up against ele's using mist form...most of them die in the first 2-3 seconds after mist form wears off, because by that time all the warriors have enough adrenaline built up for a smash-fest. Plus, we sometimes bring enchantment removal.

Storm Crow · Sep 07, 2005, 02:07 AM // 02:07

you obviously have never played an elementalist

spells are skills, the only ones that do lasting dmg, such as cripple, to my knowledge are Immolate and Incendiary Bonds, wich do burning...

Rossaroni · Sep 07, 2005, 02:22 AM // 02:22

You mean DoT's still work.

Jay Wellz · Sep 07, 2005, 03:00 AM // 03:00

I love how every1 says "us" like their the creators of the build and its theirs and only theirs...the thing this is like a solo monk a complete flaw to the game b/c with so many builds running around you have to bring soothing and etc. on every1 almost to stop this build its kinda stupid also that there making the pets even stonger and faster i think they should make a new class as in a new character that uses pets and pet skills like a Monk is the only one with Divine Favor and Mesmer on with Fast Caster , there should be a Beastmaster with primary BEAST MASTERY b/c its dumb honetsly and all of the so called "YOU" like it b/c it takes no skill what so ever to run this build. Congrats

Moofoo Pork · Sep 07, 2005, 03:46 AM // 03:46

I'd like to try out this build, but no one in tombs seems to be doing this build. I tried contacted the names in the pic, but most names didnt even exist O_o.
Anyway, im looking for peeps to try this out with, so if u want, leave ur IGN and maybe i can contact some of you

BTW, my IGN is Z E R A T U L if you've got a group going and need more ppl.

Rossaroni · Sep 07, 2005, 04:02 AM // 04:02

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Originally Posted by Jay Wellz

I love how every1 says "us" like their the creators of the build and its theirs and only theirs...the thing this is like a solo monk a complete flaw to the game b/c with so many builds running around you have to bring soothing and etc. on every1 almost to stop this build its kinda stupid also that there making the pets even stonger and faster i think they should make a new class as in a new character that uses pets and pet skills like a Monk is the only one with Divine Favor and Mesmer on with Fast Caster , there should be a Beastmaster with primary BEAST MASTERY b/c its dumb honetsly and all of the so called "YOU" like it b/c it takes no skill what so ever to run this build. Congrats

Wait...what?

Oh crap, my iq just dropped. Honestly, back up what you're saying, or else you come across as incoherent and, well, frankly, as a noob.

Vermilion Okeanos · Sep 07, 2005, 04:21 AM // 04:21

Don't argue idiot as you would stood on the same level as them, and they will beat you with experience.

What are you guys doing?

furby · Sep 07, 2005, 04:32 AM // 04:32

haha, that's a hilarious build. I hope to see more all-offense minded builds like this, it's a blast to see...

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Originally Posted by Ednemak

and its very hard to beat my avenge guild team 1 on 1, we have fought EP the #1 ranked guild, and sissy boys+marvel and they couldnt handle us

I guess I should be honored and hubmled when I see someone brag about beating EP, but I'm curious where this happened. I know you're not talking about GvG because I know where each one of our losses came from, and there haven't been any recently on either EP or our secondary guild Jet Li...

So I'm assuming it was tombs, which is really where we (along with most other guilds out there) now go to just mess around/toy with builds/PUG while waiting for the GvG crew to come online. Either way, not to discount from your build, but you should qualify where and when we "couldn't handle you"

(edited to fix quote coding)

Da Cebuano · Sep 07, 2005, 05:40 AM // 05:40

IGN is Da Cebuano

I'll try out this build w/ an organized PUG since guildies ain't doing it and random pugs suck. Contact me ingame guys if you wanna do this.

phearless · Sep 07, 2005, 06:01 AM // 06:01

I'm just wondering how hard it was for you guys to hold hoh after winning it because after my guild won it with 7 w/r and one other we had a very hard time holding the alter just because we had no way of healing the ghost well enough to keep it alive.

Third Quarter · Sep 07, 2005, 06:11 AM // 06:11

That's an interesting problem, isn't it.

Try thinking outside the box.

What worked for us was rushing a team and DPing the snot out of them, repeatedly. By the time the 2:00 mark rolled by, they were so badly DPd that we could make short work of them and concentrate on keeping the third team from capping the altar. (which was easily accomplished by killing them)

Scaphism · Sep 07, 2005, 06:54 AM // 06:54

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Originally Posted by FrOzEnMaGe

forums are a place where you can say what and whatever your thinking of on topic, and i just did..

No, you can't say whatever you want, which is exactly why I said it, instead of outright deleting your post.

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Originally Posted by FrOzEnMaGe

now for someone like you to come and tell me if you like what i say or not, now that unacceptable.

No, in case you missed it, it's entirely acceptable. I'm a moderator for this site.

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just for side info..
i'm rank9. just turned infact.
and you are? again?

See above. You're an unknown on our site. I'm telling you publicly to clean up your attitude when you post here, or don't bother posting. I don't care about your rank. If you display some public courtesy then you'll get it back in return.

Back on topic:
I hear the build is still working well- I wonder if anyone's tried Revive Animal, and if they have, what were the results? I'd be most worried about the blackout, but can't test it myself right now.

Third Quarter · Sep 07, 2005, 07:10 AM // 07:10

One of the really cool things about this build is that it consists of 8 more or less identical characters.

There's all sorts of fun things you can do by swapping out 1-4 guys for other things, though I'd hesitate to go with fewer than five W/Rs. Every lost W/R is a step away from the berserker spirit that spawned it.

I know of one variation that involves the addition of a N/Mo who hides in a dark corner and spams Heal Party and Orders.

Guillaume De Sonoma · Sep 07, 2005, 07:33 AM // 07:33

Also who are these guys gonna target some one. 'm attacking the w/r i'm attacking the w/r wait they're all warrior rangers what are all these pets doing here wait they're blocking my path i can move. Ahh... lame **** **** ****** ***** **** it

Mitsu Bishi · Sep 07, 2005, 09:14 AM // 09:14

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Originally Posted by Third Quarter

I know of one variation that involves the addition of a N/Mo who hides in a dark corner and spams Heal Party and Orders.

I guess he has to hide really well - if I'd face that team and realize they are healed, I'd be very willing to triple check where this healing is coming from. Nonetheless it sounds like a good upgrade to this strategy and if he's down, it's just more fuel to IWAY

Bugeater · Sep 07, 2005, 01:29 PM // 13:29

I just ran up against this build with the N/Mo variation. We were running a typical 3/3/2 smite build and were doing really well with it. As soon as my team sees all the pets one teammate says "Look at all those pets, we're going to own these guys! Run in the middle of them and let our AOE murder them." Before I had a chance to warn them, we were down a monk and an ElMo and the IWAY's were starting to kick in.

You all know how the story ends.

Sentao Nugra · Sep 07, 2005, 01:54 PM // 13:54

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Originally Posted by furby

I guess I should be honored and hubmled when I see someone brag about beating EP, but I'm curious where this happened. I know you're not talking about GvG because I know where each one of our losses came from, and there haven't been any recently on either EP or our secondary guild Jet Li...

first, all hail the dude from eP...

second, if anyone wants to try this build, i have a recently acquired lvl 5 black bear for quick IWAY action in tombs

CoRrRan · Sep 07, 2005, 03:05 PM // 15:05

Did this build yesterday from Tombs Int Dis 3 and it was a lot of fun. Some ppl started yelling that we stole the build from either him or a 'very good friend of his'.

3 members from my Guild (GOT), 3 from pond-guild (pond) and 2 others.

Did make it to the HoH, but unfortunately were slaughtered to bits by the first team that opposed us.

Really really good fun to play. Just for the ease of it and, well, everyone likes to win, don't they?

Thx Third Quarter for pointing out this very much fun build to me. Doesn't really work in 4v4 though.

Sentao Nugra · Sep 07, 2005, 07:08 PM // 19:08

im saying WOW, tried this witha bunch of no/low rank PUG guys and got to the hall twice, almost won, but nub took the hero off the alter.......

this works great, i smell 2 fotms!