Curse

Blaster The Warrior · Feb 03, 2006, 10:13 AM // 10:13

-_- no wonder idon't get runes anymore omg >.< everyone hunts those poor ettins o btw. axe is way faster then sword

temp · Feb 03, 2006, 10:19 AM // 10:19

i take a modified version of the spider run build with me, works great

i own for fire · Feb 03, 2006, 10:29 AM // 10:29

what level should i get till i start farming ettins coz im up to snow ettins are they any good ?

Arkantos · Feb 03, 2006, 10:29 AM // 10:29

ooh....I use my friends W/Mo Axe Build and it works super good

EDIT:
How the hell do you stay alive? I have full platemail (85 Armor) And I have +3 regen Mending and
+122 healing sig, and I always die.

i own for fire · Feb 03, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30

btw sorry about double post im almost level 9 and i hav a chaos axe =)

i own for fire · Feb 03, 2006, 10:34 AM // 10:34

omg is any one there

i own for fire · Feb 03, 2006, 10:39 AM // 10:39

hello any home

dont feel no pain · Feb 03, 2006, 10:46 AM // 10:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaster The Warrior

-_- no wonder idon't get runes anymore omg >.< everyone hunts those poor ettins o btw. axe is way faster then sword

they are both pretty fast , just depends on your build and how skilled u are , u can do sword without any interuption and take a ettin down in a row of sword skills just as fast as axe would , even without interuption , final thrust is a god of a skill. but axe can be just as fast , and its easier but lately i been doing sword, i acauly find it faster

o hey own for fire , emm snow ettins dont drop armor and the ettins we farm are in krtya , dont start farming till ur about lvl 15+ with max armor.

Corinthian · Feb 03, 2006, 01:58 PM // 13:58

I tried this with level 20 W/E, and build was as follows:

Gladiator's Defence {E}
Dolyak Signet
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Distracting Blow
Savage Slash
Healing Signet
Sprint

Attributes evenly distributed.

The ettins are quite eager to cast the signet, thus one interrupt was not enough. High Tactics Ripostes really mow them down. Gladiator's Defence is great with Dolyak, you don't get knocked down when you block their Irresistable Blow. Too bad I could only take on a maximum of 3 ettins at a time. There's a feeling of real battle in it. o_O

After a few runs, the runes started dropping in heaps: Got 2 major vigors and a superior smiting rune. The rest were worthless minors or majors.

Thanks for the tips!

Yakumo · Feb 03, 2006, 02:24 PM // 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corinthian

I tried this with level 20 W/E, and build was as follows:

Gladiator's Defence {E}
Dolyak Signet
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Distracting Blow
Savage Slash
Healing Signet
Sprint

Attributes evenly distributed.

Pretty much what my W/N use for the occasional farming trips.

1. Healing Sig
2. Dolyak Sig
3. Gladiator's Defense {E}
4. "Watch Yourself!"
5. Power Attack
6. Riposte
7. Deadly Riposte / Distracting Blow
8. Desperation Blow

I find Desperation Blow really good to use with Dolyak.

Corinthian · Feb 03, 2006, 03:40 PM // 15:40

With an elementalist secondary, Rust works well. Gives some more time to react.

X-Bomb · Feb 03, 2006, 03:43 PM // 15:43

im getting more gold runes now, then before when i used to farm with guildies to unlock runes

we used to kill them quick with eles befre the ether renewal and AOE nerf

Rhuobhe · Feb 03, 2006, 04:03 PM // 16:03

Axe is still faster, even if marginally so. The reason I feel confident in that statement is twofold:
First, disrupting chop, the axe disrupting skill, uses adrenaline and thus charges very fast with cyclone. It also disables the opponents skill for about 20 extra seconds (I think its 20)
Secondly, Final Thrust, which is a godlike skill, takes 10 hits of adrenaline compared to Eviscerate (sp) which only takes 7. Final Thrust also drains all remaining adrenaline, and is only effective to its fullest potential when the ettin is at <50% health.
With only 12 axe mastery, I've had Eviscerates hit for 137 (probably on a signet, but not sure) and inflict deep wound. Say that ettins have about 400 health (lvl 17), Deep wound takes off 80 right off the top.
So that -137 Eviscerate is in reality doing about 217. I can also follow up the Eviscerate with other adrenaline skills, such as penetrating blow (which I prefer over executioners in this situation)

If you use the following strategy and perfect it, you would be AMAZED at how fast a group will drop.
For a group of 3:
Target, attack (1 swing is enough)
Cyclone, attack
Eviscerate, (or Penetrating Blow) followed by a disrupting chop when they use healing signet.

NOW LEAVE HIM ALONE!
Switch targets. He will not be able to heal, and you will kill him with subsequent cyclones and use him as an adrenaline battery.
Target, attack (1 swing is enough)
Cyclone, attack
Eviscerate, (or Penetrating Blow) followed by a disrupting chop when they use healing signet.

NOW LEAVE HIM ALONE!
Switch targets. He will not be able to heal, and you will kill him with subsequent cyclones and use him as an adrenaline battery.

Continue this, and they will drop very very fast. I can usually kill 3 in under 30 seconds.

Retribution X · Feb 03, 2006, 07:35 PM // 19:35

heh. i can kill em faster than 30 secs with sword. i get 3 in ~15 secs. i paid for my victo's blade using this setup! works great!

Rhuobhe · Feb 03, 2006, 07:46 PM // 19:46

I have some trouble believing that. Is this starting off with 0 adrenaline?

What skills are you using - and what is your strategy?

Amsterdam · Feb 03, 2006, 07:48 PM // 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloody Death

Awesome guide, I really like the maps

I usually farm griffons and mount. trolls, which gets very boring. Im going to try ettins soon. Jw, do ettins only use physical attacks?

Why thank you sir. I am glad to see posts like this.

Katari · Feb 03, 2006, 09:36 PM // 21:36

The build I use is:

16 Axe
9 Tactics
rest Air Magic

Cyclone Axe
Exe Strike
Evicerate
Disrupting Chop
Conjure Lighting (Frost may be better, read on)
Sprint
Healing Sig
Watch Yourself!

Watch Yourself! is all the defense I need when fighting mobs of four or less. Ettins are lvl 15, they don't really hit that hard. If I were fighting larger mobs, I'd consider Dolyak Sig, but I don't think I could pull together a mob that would make me consider monk skills.

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Originally Posted by Corinthian

With an elementalist secondary, Rust works well. Gives some more time to react.

Thats a great idea, swap out conjure lighting for conjure frost, then swap, another skill out for rust. Six seconds of -40AL fun.

I might have to find myself an Icy Axe Haft.

The important thing to remember is to avoid 'block' stance and skills, unless you're using Dolyak Sig. On that note, I'm not a fan of Dolyak Sig, waiting for it to finish annoys me. That, and I'm using Air, not Strength.

Another thing I noticed: Ettins have +20ish AL vs Phys. Use elemental weapons if you can while fighting them.

Using a conjure may not be the fastest method for farming ettins, but it sure beats healing prayers. Mending dosn't kill.

Besides, if I wanted defense vs Ettins, I'd go W/Me, and use Physical Resistance. It requires less investment than Mending, and if Ettins kill you with 80+20+40+? AL vs phys, you have some other problems.

Retribution X · Feb 03, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhuobhe

I have some trouble believing that. Is this starting off with 0 adrenaline?

What skills are you using - and what is your strategy?

Actually, I use HB, and NO running skills. and yes, I start with NO adrenaline!

My skill bar is,

Hundred Blades {Elite}
Sever Artery/Deadly Ripost
Gash
Galrath Slash
Final Thrust
Doylak Signet
Mending
For Great Justice/Ripost/Healing Signet (I never have to use Healing sig...)

Attributes are,

8 Healing Prayers
13 Swordsmanship (11 + Major rune)
11 Strength (9 + Minor + helm)
7 Tactics (6 + minor) (Generally, only if you using Healing Signet or Deadly/Ripost, otherwise i put in strength.)

i use a -2 ench shield, and a Vamp sword. (Or, if I'm bored, 10/9 sundering)

BIG THING!!! Run backwards once you have aggro to get them all adjacent! Then use doylak, and HB when it's charged, using adrenal when they are charged.

They die pretty quick, when degened.

But, i do lag a bit, so, i MIGHT be a bit slower.

The longest i have EVER taken on 1 group was, 42 secs.

Rhuobhe · Feb 03, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katari

The build I use is:
Mending dosn't kill.

Besides, if I wanted defense vs Ettins, I'd go W/Me, and use Physical Resistance.

Nor does Healing signet, and HS is a 2 second cast, Mend is a maintained enchantment. It gives you the advantage of using a +15% while enchant weapon, and always have the +15%

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katari

It requires less investment than Mending, and if Ettins kill you with 80+20+40+? AL vs phys, you have some other problems.

Agreed, but if they kill you with mending/HB you also have some other problems :P

I've been able to take groups of 8ish, probably 6-8 of which are hitting me. With Mend + HB, I'm not the one who dies

I can't speak for conjure since I never tried it. Neat idea, though. I'll stick to my vampiric - that doubles as healing for me anyways.

Personally I can't see why people waste armor slots on ettins, they are quite easy to kill and even with just glad's armor they hit me for 0 unless they are using a skill against me.

Retribution X · Feb 03, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhuobhe

Nor does Healing signet, and HS is a 2 second cast, Mend is a maintained enchantment. It gives you the advantage of using a +15% while enchant weapon, and always have the +15%

/Agree

Agreed, but if they kill you with mending/HB you also have some other problems :P

Yeah. you do. ESP with the builds posted here...

I've been able to take groups of 8ish, probably 6-8 of which are hitting me. With Mend + HB, I'm not the one who dies

Long time to kill? use the glitchs?

I can't speak for conjure since I never tried it. Neat idea, though. I'll stick to my vampiric - that doubles as healing for me anyways.

Ditto on that. 2x. Vamperic FTW!

Personally I can't see why people waste armor slots on ettins, they are quite easy to kill and even with just glad's armor they hit me for 0 unless they are using a skill against me.

Because, we don't want to take ANY damage.

That's what i think.

/Agree. W/Mo is Usually better than W/E