Curse

VividDream · May 09, 2005, 06:15 AM // 06:15

You're a ranger... load up on nature rituals and he spends the first 30 seconds of the fight dropping spirits that help you both.

Cylint Jack · May 09, 2005, 06:31 PM // 18:31

First try I went in and had pet up. Got smoked because you get no pet. Second try I had a good idea but it was bad (had Iron Mist up with Lightning Orb as my only nukes). 3rd time I had a plan which almost worked but my timing was off. 4th time I won. I am a R/E.

My spells were in this order (more or less):
Iron Mist
Conjure Flame
Blinding Flash *
Glyph of Lesser Energy *
Ward Against Melee
Ward Against Foes
Ward Agasint Elements
Storm Chaser

The ones with a * are critical to my strat. My hp is 480 at lvl 20 with 56 power. I have only my fire wand (10-15 fire dmg) equipped and my air wand bagged. Zoning in, I press 'C' to target, hit the number 4 for Glyph of Lesser Energy then hit Blinding Flash while clicking my target window at the same time to start attacking. After that I hit Conjure Flame (you don't need to refresh this if you dont want to). Every 3 hits with my wand I am blinding the guy. Keep blinding him as you are allowed and keep an eye on the Glyph of Lesser Energy. It saves you 10 energy (the savings listed is 15 however after casting Glyph for 5 you are only saving 10 which is still a lot). You will get hit sometimes because it takes a toll on your energy reserves. I lost my first time trying this method the first time because I miss timed my opening use of Glyph and that cost me (he only needed to get hit one more time). Using my fire wand with Conjure Flame gave me the DPS boost I needed in the long run. You can do it without that particular wand but I don't know how long it would take. Whatever you do, do not load Aura of Restoration. It's like some monster heal for him. Also, no matter what you have banked or equipped he comes out with a bow (for me at least). He spent a great deal of his time buffing and being blind hehe. The few times he hit me did not get more than 1/4 to 1/2 of my hp down.

-Cylint Jack

woad · May 09, 2005, 10:01 PM // 22:01

i'm an elem/necro. i don't know how this will work for other classes, but i had several spells that requires the target to stay in a single spot (e.g. firestorm, maelstrom, meteor shower). once the encounter starts, strafe around him, since he'll be casting these spells. as the AI does not know how to move out of AOE, unleash your own damage once you are clear from his/her spells.

dririthlan · May 10, 2005, 12:12 PM // 12:12

Im a necro/monk,
and for starters id like to say ive used every idea suggested so far,
nothing works i get down to almost ko him and almost myself when he either shoots a -80hp arrow or hits me for -80. Now ive been through this ordeal about 3 times every 5mins for the last 3 hours. Quite frankly im sick getting sick of it. This is not really a mirror self if it was a mirror self it would:
have less hit damage
have slower energy regen
have the same weapons used by the class
and have the same level skills that you have.

This part of the game has more is going to put me off playing it for a long time.

Nolas · May 10, 2005, 12:39 PM // 12:39

Don't use any spells that would add your health.

Put Awaken the Blood with spells that sacrifices health but do not deal damage, like Chilblain and Defile Flesh. Don't cast those yourself, sit back and watch the mirror cast himself to death.

Try spam Deathly Chill to speed up the process. You can also play around equip Rend Enchantments and some useless Monk Enchantments to cast on yourself so mirror takes damage when he tries to remove them.

Note: Might also help to put a skill that give you more Energy regen...cos that helps u spam more damage and the mirror can cast more sacrificial spells.

Neisht · May 10, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41

I have seen some decent suggestions tried them all min.3-4 times. To add to the advice taking healing breeze is worth it as he wont cast it.

1. I honestly have tried a big mix of spells and he often does not use.
2. The only spell I have that sacrifices 33% health is far from useless and he uses that one it gives life regen of +3 and when it ends it heals for 170

I am in the exact same boat as Netrol my weapon is weak as hell, my healing breeze is +7 regen (best I could manage) and with this on I still rapidly fall back in health, I hit for an average of 12 dam and he hits for an average of say 40 (30 usually but lots of dd for 70+)

When I load a syphon or vapiric touch type spell, he counters with more powerful ones. I heard one guy say he set up the mirror with some aura type spells that in one way or another sacrificed health abd then he hit with deathswarm and killed in 2 hits... if I load deathswarm he nukes me for almost double what I hit him for and he spams it and skips the other spells entirely. I think this combo of hero faces some probs that other heroes class combo's may not have.

I would seriously love an exact plan for a necro/Mo that definately works as i am completely jammed.

Krekaln Kragen · May 11, 2005, 01:42 AM // 01:42

Im a necro/ele and i beat him pretty easily. I had death nova, blood ritual and strip enchantment. I then added worthless enchantments so i could strip them for health. the rest of the slots i filled with spells targeting corpses. I had all my points into death and blood atts.

the mirror would use blood ritual like twice and get severely wounded b/c hes an idiot. then he'd cast death nova and id strip it. all the while i was attacking with my truncheon >_>. He eventually killed me setting off my poison nova which killed him and i won =D. worked the first time i tried it

Valerius · May 11, 2005, 02:18 AM // 02:18

soo... u go face ur mirror after u've done all three missions right? ( Thirsty River, Elona Reach and Dunes of Despair )

i'm at him now... and after my bro gets off i ll use that strategy for Ranger / Monk ... seems like i'll have np with him lol

Neisht · May 11, 2005, 02:59 AM // 02:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krekaln Kragen

Im a necro/ele and i beat him pretty easily. I had death nova, blood ritual and strip enchantment. I then added worthless enchantments so i could strip them for health. the rest of the slots i filled with spells targeting corpses. I had all my points into death and blood atts.

the mirror would use blood ritual like twice and get severely wounded b/c hes an idiot. then he'd cast death nova and id strip it. all the while i was attacking with my truncheon >_>. He eventually killed me setting off my poison nova which killed him and i won =D. worked the first time i tried it

This is great an all but I dont have access to strip enchantment as far as I know, I assume thats an ele spell.

Krekaln Kragen · May 11, 2005, 06:38 PM // 18:38

nope strip enchantment is a blood att spell that heals you when you use it.

Epinephrine · May 11, 2005, 08:32 PM // 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neisht

I have seen some decent suggestions tried them all min.3-4 times. To add to the advice taking healing breeze is worth it as he wont cast it.

1. I honestly have tried a big mix of spells and he often does not use.
2. The only spell I have that sacrifices 33% health is far from useless and he uses that one it gives life regen of +3 and when it ends it heals for 170

I am in the exact same boat as Netrol my weapon is weak as hell, my healing breeze is +7 regen (best I could manage) and with this on I still rapidly fall back in health, I hit for an average of 12 dam and he hits for an average of say 40 (30 usually but lots of dd for 70+)

When I load a syphon or vapiric touch type spell, he counters with more powerful ones. I heard one guy say he set up the mirror with some aura type spells that in one way or another sacrificed health abd then he hit with deathswarm and killed in 2 hits... if I load deathswarm he nukes me for almost double what I hit him for and he spams it and skips the other spells entirely. I think this combo of hero faces some probs that other heroes class combo's may not have.

I would seriously love an exact plan for a necro/Mo that definately works as i am completely jammed.

As a suggestion (I am playing a Nec/Mo, so I will be in the same boat later) load some sacrifice spells (Dark Pact and others...) and equip Scourge Sacrifice. Make him REALLY pay to use the spells. Take Insidious Parasite along and don't attack him while he has it up, simply steal his health with it - it does nothing to you if he puts it on you, as you simply stop attacking. He may well keep shooting you, though since you are stealing his health everytime he attacks you are wiinning, and you simply don't use any attacks if he does it to you. Use Mark of Subversion and don't cast, he may cast through it. If you can get Spiteful spirit get that too - it's another one that hurt him if he attacks or casts a spell. As long as you give him no useful attack spells and he thus relies on damaging you through attacks you should be fine - after all, you can make him hurt more when he attacks that he can do damage to you, so you'll win that particular race. I don't know, it sounds too easy, but I haven't gotten there yet.

Does he mirror your attributes as well? (or attributes +2 or something?) If so, take along a ton of sacrifice spells and heals but put your attribute points elsewhere (0 healing and 12 smiting for example) and just use Scourge Healing and Scourge Sacrifice yourself, while shooting him with your wand. - if the AI starts hurting he'll probably try healing, if he only has weak healing skills he'll gain very little from it and the Scourge will result in net damage. If his AI is dumb enough he may spam heals to try to get out of the hole and kill himself.

If he doesn't mirror your attributes I say stick with a pile of useless sacrifices (Dark Fury, Dark Pact, Signet of Agony (ooh goody, he makes himself bleed!), Touch of Agony, Demonic Flesh, Awaken the Blood (oh, hope he casts that), Scourge Sacrifice (you'll use this), and Insidious Parasite. With Scourge sacrifice on him he's meat if he starts sacrificing, and all of those are fine for you if he uses them. The insidious parasite is like a conditional heal, you just wand attack him, stop if he uses it on you. You can keep insidious parasite up for 18/20.75 seconds, during which time every attack he makes does 20 or so damage to him, and his (attack-20) to you. If he starts to use any of the sacrifice spells you win, if you are smart and shoot him between Insidious Parasites you also win.

Nolas · May 11, 2005, 11:21 PM // 23:21

Just want to point out that a previous thread says that the mirror seems to be have full attributes in all expertise regardless of how you divide your attibutes points.
Therefore the best suggestion is not to use any spells that heals you directly or even any heals at all but equip spells that is self damaging and just not use them.
The idea is not to EQUIP skills that you use normally (i.e. skill sets that maximize damage) but rather skills that are more suicidal (i.e. minimal harm to others while maximal harm to yourself) and let the not-so-intelligent AI bash himself senseless.
Might also help if you try to get more skills prior to fighting your mirror self.

Erasmus · May 11, 2005, 11:54 PM // 23:54

For mesmers, Jsut put 7 useless spells and backfire on. With max domination, you will win in under 10 seconds. Just put on backfire and watch him die.

For elementalists ( adn this goes for the OP too) , max out fire. Put on a bunch of time consuming spells, and all the AoE DoT you can. The key is your mirrior doesnt move, but you can. Drop all your AoE on him while he buffs up with garbage and move away from the AoE. He dies fast.

For necromancers, put alot of useless spells that sacrifice health. Jsut stand there and attack while he sacrifices himself to death.

For monk, http://vnboards.ign.com/Monk_/b22825/86687384/?3

Warriors seem to be straight forward attack. Never seen anyone ask or post about it. Must not be too hard.

For Rangers, its probably easier to use your secondary.

Wired · May 13, 2005, 07:17 AM // 07:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Last Gasp

Like many other challenges in the game, the key factor is skill selection. As a ranger, you have a very easy way through this mission. I'll suggest an exact skill layout, and you'll be able to figure out what I'm getting at.

Skills
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Penetrating Shot
Distracting Shot
any nature ritual
any nature ritual
any nature ritual
any nature ritual
any nature ritual
any nature ritual

here is how the fight goes:

he starts casting a ritual, which is a complete waste of his time
you start spamming penetrating arrows, which puts big holes in him

at some point, he tries penetrating arrow so,
you use distracting arrow, which stops him, and prevents him from using penetrating again for 20 seconds.

There you go, you've just sewn up your victory. If you don't have 6 nature rituals, just leave some of them blank, or put in capture signets, or whatever. Two is probably enough, if they're two he'll try casting.

I'm assuming this strat will work for any class with some slow, pointless spells.

I basically did the same thing, only I didn't use penetrating shot or distracting shot. I just basically loaded up on rituals and starts shooting at him as soon as the match started. By the time he finished casting all those rituals and shot back he had all of 30 hp left.