Curse

Apophis Jaan · Jun 14, 2005, 11:01 PM // 23:01

I just went through the final mission, fighting hard all the way dieing a few times. It was hard, it was intense, we fought off hoards of Titans and their offspring. We came the bastardised undead Rurik, we bested him with avreage -40 dp each. I then plundered his body for his Hundred Blades, we pressed on to the Lich.

The Lich stood before us surrounded by his hand of titan minions, we bested them and began figthing our real foe. We fought hard, then suddenly I found myself way off to the side in the middle of the lava flow. What in the hell? I thought to my self, looking down at my DSL modem blinking oddly. I figured it was lag, I returned to the fray. *Blink* there I was again in the lava flow, what? A third time I engaged my foe, *blink* WHAT IS GOING ON?! A comrade informed me it was a skill the Lich had mastered. Confused I returned to the fray, I believed Arenanet were champions of good game design. Not moronic skills to achieve artificial difficulty, a little dissapointed but undetered I returned to the fight.

We bested the Lich but to my suprise no cinematic played, suddenly the Lich rose and two more minions with him. The three warriors, myself included were caught un prepared and killed off. The monks managed to retreat, they then ressurected us. We killed off the minions after much headaches, then on to the Lich. What followed was a series of deaths and ressurections that eventually lead to the Lich's second demise. But then he rose again, with two more minions. Again we died, only this time we didn't have the spirit to continue.

Of this foray into the final mission I obtained Hundred Blades, and Arenanet lost two community members. Yes the end boss was so infuriating that two of the players in my group vowed never to play again with a hearty "F this game!".

All I have to ask is, WHAT THE HELL WAS ARENANET THINKING? Theres hard and then theres stupid ladies and gentlemen. Devil May Cry 3 is hard, not once do you feel the game is being unfair. Genuine difficulty, then theres the Lich. He's hard yes, but coupled with the teleport you to the lava ability (the most moronic skill ever divised in my humble opinion) and the difficulty of the rest of the mission the Lich forays into the realm of stupid game design and cheaply increasing the difficulty of the game. Almost to the level of NFS's auto catchup AI cars.

And that's all I have to say about that.

Jwh6913 · Jun 14, 2005, 11:25 PM // 23:25

hahaha YOU HAVE TO KILL HIM ON THE BLOODSTONE the round flat rock for the endgame to play

Jwh6913 · Jun 14, 2005, 11:26 PM // 23:26

and the lich doesn't teleport people, what you're experiencing is rubberband lag

Hebug · Jun 14, 2005, 11:34 PM // 23:34

Actually you can be teleported because I was beating on him yesterday and after you are teleported you have to walk through that lava to get back. Annoying, but not that bad.

Regarding the original poster, consider reading the mission description so you know you have to kill him on the bloodstone. Or consider watching the cutscenes.

Reiden Argrock · Jun 14, 2005, 11:56 PM // 23:56

lol,
thats a good laugh

Um, You have to kill the lich 3, yes 3 times on the bloodstone each time.
and yes you can be teleported, and if you were already at -40% dp when you go to the lich, then you lost before you even got to him. Sorry

Valerius · Jun 14, 2005, 11:59 PM // 23:59

maybe it has changed ... but when i killed him he did not teleport players... he teleported himself out into the lava... but never did he teleport us....

and as far as killing him... even on the bloodstone he revived... but he only does it three times... first time u kill him he will revive to full HP... second time to 50% HP... third time to 25% HP... then u kill him and gg

Apophis Jaan · Jun 15, 2005, 01:07 AM // 01:07

We killed him up on the bloodstone twice, and each time he revived with full HP and two new minions. Also not once did he teleport himself, he only teleported me and a few other comrades out into the lava flow.

Also love the intelligible posts, it's people like you and your elitest attitudes that are ruining online gaming.

Young_Anakin · Jun 15, 2005, 01:36 AM // 01:36

You expect the last mission to be a piece of cake? I did that mission and it was hard, and we had many comebacks when we should have been finished. It's really stupid to quit when your at the VERY END of the last mission that you're complaining so much about. You will come back to Guild Wars and then realise that you should of finished that mission.

Deathlord · Jun 15, 2005, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Yes, he DOES teleport people. You do NOT have to kill him three times, it is simply a bug that our party first encountered too. We killed him ON the bloodstone FOUR times and the first time he glowed white and came back, the second he glowed red and came back (Died on bloodstone, came back on it). The third and fourth he didn't glow, he just went from 0% hp to 75%. He DOES teleport you onto the lava, you have to run back, as far as i know he always did that. It's NOT a targetting spell, he casts white blobs over the area and if you walk/get hit by one then you're teleported. The second time we killed him ONCE on the bloodstone and it was over. The first time i went crazy since the mission was insanely hard to find good party members but I was able to do it the second time and all is well. You just have to deal with these pesky bugs sometimes, alot of games have them, it's just unfortunate for us that this great game had to be brought down by a evil bug that can waste hours of work.

Apophis Jaan · Jun 15, 2005, 02:13 AM // 02:13

I'm not quitting the game, I quit the mission at that time and went and played something else to calm down. And no I'm not saying the last mission should be easy, I'm just saying I don't like it when developers resort to using cheap tricks to increase difficulty. I'm sure they could have thought up much more clever ways to make the Lich harder then having him warp the players into the lava or having multiple spawns.

So the multiple spawns is bugged then? Because each time we killed him it was on the bloodstone.

krustydclown · Jun 15, 2005, 04:21 AM // 04:21

wow, guess they changed it a bit, when i beat the game, all the party had to do was kill him once on the stone platform. i thought the part bout fighting undead rurik and all those titans was harder. but i guess times have changed. well, hope u find a good party and beat it.

Mitsu Bishi · Jun 19, 2005, 03:09 AM // 03:09

I also only had to kill him once on the Bloodstone. I heard that you had to kill him more often and warned my teammates, so we were surprised when he fell for good on our first kill. Was a nice group, only six people (2 left early, before the seer) but we still managed to get through with only one guy at -60% and the rest with +10%.

Spike · Jun 19, 2005, 03:15 AM // 03:15

Well when I did that mission I and my friends DID get teleported But when we killed him ON the bloodstone the game finished. We did kill him one in the lava but then he reappeard on the bloodstone and we killed him again and the mission ended. We did this with 3 humans and 5 henchmen and did not die ONCE.

Francis · Jun 19, 2005, 03:22 AM // 03:22

I've beaten him with 3 different characters so far. I was also highly frustrated in the Lich, not because it was annoying, not because it was difficult, but it was hideously easy. All 3 times, no one in our group went down more then 5% health; and that was only the times we were walking in lava, he did absolutely no damage to us as he just stood there on the Bloodstone casting spells that did nothing. All 3 times we got him when he was on the stone and all 3 times he never respawned. I don't know if they changed him since I haven't beaten him for 2-3 weeks but I can say that I am disappointed.

Aernok · Jun 19, 2005, 04:31 PM // 16:31

I actually thought this was ridiculously easy for the end-game boss.

I did the mission with all henchmen. I did not die once but my henchies were all at as low dp as they can get.

He did the teleport to lava thing over and over again. It was weaksauce and no problem at all. I killed him once on the edge of the lava. Respawn on the bloodstone. More weaksauce teleporting to the lava ensued. Then I killed him on the bloodstone and the game was over.

I think there was only 1 set of mobs that spawned mid-battle. 3 fists of the titans or something. I took care of them no problem.

I did this tuesday of this week so I doubt it was increased in difficulty since then.

Maybe either your group was terrible (I assume you were in a PUG) or you guys got some really unlucky bugs.

d4nowar · Jun 19, 2005, 05:32 PM // 17:32

Every time he "respawns" he brings minions with him.

Voob · Jun 19, 2005, 06:42 PM // 18:42

When I did it (2 weeks ago), he only teleported him self and we only had to kill him once (on the bloodstone). Are you sure this wasn't a bug?

dansamy · Jun 19, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07

He teleported himself and our party members (usually the warrior beating on him the most) when we fought him. We never attacked him when he was anywhere but on the stone. We only attacked when he was standing on the stone and when he died the 1st time, he stayed dead.

EmperorTippy · Jun 19, 2005, 07:55 PM // 19:55

When I did this about a week ago we killed him on the blood stone the first time and he never respawned. He also never teleported any of us into lava or any were.

Luggage · Jun 19, 2005, 08:08 PM // 20:08

Did this a week or two ago with 7 ppl and only 1 monk, most of use had over -40dp at the start except perhaps the monk. -60 for most at the end tho... took some time to make the warriors understand everybody needed to get ressed and attack at the same time

He only had to be killed once on the bloodstone and he did teleport people out into the lava.