Curse

xxreaper008 · Feb 18, 2006, 02:15 AM // 02:15

Obsidian Fleash Is way better. With 16 earth magic, obsidian would last 22 sec, you have to remember that you would hold a 20% longer mod so it would be a good 26 seonds. Also heres a chance of faster recharge.
You can maybe fit blessed alura in there so it could last about 29 second.

But if you try out to be a Mo/Ele, energy is going to be a big problem because of earthquake+ exostion. Im gunna think of a new build that i can do without eathquake.

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At 12 Earth, Obs Flesh lasts 18 seconds. Recharge time of 30 secs.

Big difference however, is that enemies will waste their spells on you when you have SB on. Thus, they lose most of their energy. With OF, enemies will not cast and will therefore have energy. They will wait for it to wear out and then then slam you with spells.

In conclusion, SB should be better for your purpose of soloing.

Whats skills is there to through at you? The mesmers would first cast a few hexs on you before they use shatter enchant. Obsidian Fleash would be a smarter choice in my opinion.

xxreaper008 · Feb 18, 2006, 04:06 AM // 04:06

This WILL work. I will try it out when i get my elementalist on lvl 20.

55hp Ele

16 Earth
10 Prot
8 heal
rest in Energy Store

Prot Spirit.
Mending
Balth Spirit
Healing Breeze
Obsidian Flesh {E}
Stoning
After Shock
Crstal Wave

cast obsidian fleash and slowly goto the mesmer. cast stoning then aftershock. then crystal wave. repeat.

Kcp · Feb 18, 2006, 04:28 AM // 04:28

Considering the only cover enchant in the build you posted is going to be healing breeze which is your main form of self healing, and you plan on soloing grenth's then into SF with it. Good luck with that.

If you don't kill any mesmer before O.F. runs out prepare to get healing breeze shattered( if you're smart enough to cover Protective spirit with it, if you didn't you're dead) then hit with degen. Not to mention the bleeding, disrupting chops, dwarven battle stance, and giant stomps going on while your trying to take out the mesmer under the protection of O.F.

And all this is taking place right outside war camp. My personal suggestion would be to not take spellbreaker or Obsidian flesh at all and find a cheap spammable 5 energy cover enchant to protect yourself vs shatters......but what would I know about dealing with mesmers solo with a 55hp build

But hey you could always try and respawn till you get a mesmer free run into SF.....but you're still gonna have to deal with mesmers once inside, and usually more then 1 at a time. I guess you can look at it this way if you die, at least you don't get sent out of the zone and can slowly widdle away farther in.

ubermancer · Feb 18, 2006, 04:50 AM // 04:50

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Originally Posted by Kcp

Listen to this guy^^ He's correct.

No hes not. Mobs do not "loose most of their energy" attempting to cast. They have quasi infinite energy.

onilink · Feb 18, 2006, 06:11 AM // 06:11

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Originally Posted by ubermancer

No hes not. Mobs do not "loose most of their energy" attempting to cast. They have quasi infinite energy.

Then why does casting sv on a 55 monk cause the smites to run out of energy and become unable to cast smite hex?

got lah · Feb 18, 2006, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by xxreaper008

This WILL work. I will try it out when i get my elementalist on lvl 20.

55hp Ele

16 Earth
10 Prot
8 heal
rest in Energy Store

Prot Spirit.
Mending
Balth Spirit
Healing Breeze
Obsidian Flesh {E}
Stoning
After Shock
Crstal Wave

cast obsidian fleash and slowly goto the mesmer. cast stoning then aftershock. then crystal wave. repeat.

Stoning triggers knockdown upon casting on a weakened foe.... if that's what you think.

Kcp · Feb 18, 2006, 07:50 AM // 07:50

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Originally Posted by ubermancer

No hes not. Mobs do not "loose most of their energy" attempting to cast. They have quasi infinite energy.

This is the second time you've stated this to me...... I'm calling B.S. on you until you pump out some numbers.

If they had quasi infinitegazillionx10 energy as you state why does Sympathetic visage drain a monks energy to zero if melee is damaging your character while standing next to a monk? Why do 99% of the n/me's doing UW runs with monks use it vs smites? Why does mindwrack trigger on shadow monks in fow when you go at them with an energy denial mesmer?

The guy is right on the Spell breaker statement, enemies due in fact waste their energy trying to cast on a SB'd target( not ALL of it

.) When you try to cast on a Obsidian flesh enchanted target you simply cannot cast and do not waste your energy trying to do so. So this would mean the same would hold true for a PVE enemy trying to cast on your ele while enchanted by obsidian flesh. There will be no skill recharge on the failed attempts or energy loss for that matter either since you simply are "unable to cast."

So with this being stated AGAIN I was correct in my original statement agreeing with Joe.

Anyways from what I hear the "ele" build that solo's SF isnt even a 55hp....but that's just rumor, and by no means can I verify it since I don't play an ele or even do the SF thing.

Ajantis · Feb 18, 2006, 08:29 AM // 08:29

I guess you never tried the 55 monk tanking in UW with spellbreaker..

Yes, SV drains their energy, but just SB does not.. Coldfires continously spam all their spells, they continue doing so after SB has run out..

onilink · Feb 18, 2006, 09:32 AM // 09:32

But thats merely good energy management, not infinite energy. He wasn't saying that sb drains energy, just that the enemies can cast while its up, which is not the case with obsidian flesh.

Gildor Took · Feb 18, 2006, 10:47 AM // 10:47

about soloing the GF with a e/me i can't do it.
BUT i know someone that claims to be able to do it. I mean seriously i thought everybody knew about it.

Look at the screenshot at the bottom of this thread
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=112257