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Old Apr 28, 2006, 01:26 PM // 13:26   #21
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Well, usually there's just corpses of various henchmen. Maybe I really should re-start as long as there really is a second team available.
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Old Apr 28, 2006, 01:26 PM // 13:26   #22
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I did it last night with 4 henches, and the real people. I tried Battery at 1st with a full group and we died. Then couldn't get a good group and switched to Echo SS and it made life much easier.
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Old Apr 28, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08   #23
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One more thing. When you start, make sure you shout out to the other team NOT to rush and NOT to skip the first movie. Otherwise Togo will NOT move and he and Mhenlo will get stuck after you finish off the first battle.
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Old Apr 28, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53   #24
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So, the deal with this mission is the first group goes in and while at the cut scene the second group comes in and joins up (sort of)?

So if one random person comes in with an all hench group the second group is screwed?

This would explain why I've done this 10 times and get different ppl by togo (or master tofu...LOL) and why most of the time we get slammed at the last group...

Anyway not really sure how the 2 groups end up being together, but this sucks when someone in front of your group goes in with hench and we all get raped!
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Old Apr 28, 2006, 08:57 PM // 20:57   #25
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Shoot 2nd team is dead time I get there.Two times I went with people and we didnt even get to one because Togo died.I tried with hench but cant get pass 3.
It is really silly because there are so many quirts to it.I did it one time and finished one and the 2 monks took off.Well we got hit by a mob and so fought.2 monks kept going.If I hadnt bought the game already I would not buy the game.
PVE is suppose to let you use a little strategy they have taken most that out with the mobbing.Oh well
Change that too 4 times..lol...working on record without trying..)

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Old Apr 28, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27   #26
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A battle grind has been every part of PvE so far practically... large battles are somewhat more fun though

Lost a completion to the mhenlo-doesnt-move bug, mission was pretty fun (with 8 people). With 2 teams I'd expect it's somewhat less interesting.
I like the constant combat.

I went through it with just 8 people. (the other team (all npcs) was slaughtered before we got there. It made the mission very challenging and exciting. I hope that the game doesn't lose momentum.
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17   #27
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I concur. I went through it with a group of 8 and never saw another group in there...beat it with expert rewards just the same tho. Minions ftw!
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09   #28
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I think the problem with the mission is thus.

1. If you skip the cutscene, Mhenlo and Togo get bugged and won't move.
2. If the other team dies, same thing happens. You can't res people on the other team.

I've e-mailed ANet, but I hope they're already working on a solution.
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 09:56 PM // 21:56   #29
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i did this with henchies at lvl 13, the other team was a lvl 20 with all henchies as well, only had about 3 deaths, i loved the whole mission and didnt find it too hard (my new mesmer)
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 10:44 PM // 22:44   #30
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I went all missions and most of the quests with only henchies&starter armor and when I reached Vizunah was only lvl 12...
But with an Assassin it's impossible, because no one will take me into their group and with henchies it's impossible. Even now with better armor people still won't take me because of my lvl(what do u people do to have lvl 20?).
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48   #31
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I went all missions and most of the quests with only henchies&starter armor and when I reached Vizunah was only lvl 12...
But with an Assassin it's impossible, because no one will take me into their group and with henchies it's impossible. Even now with better armor people still won't take me because of my lvl(what do u people do to have lvl 20?).
did you do all your 2ndary professions quests?
Try going back and doing some of the missions that you didin't get all the bonuses on.
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48   #32
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what do u people do to have lvl 20?
Do the quests on the starting island, as well as on the mainland. They give loads of XP, so you should level up quickly. The 15 attribute point quests are a must.
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27   #33
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I've done 90% of the quests I've found, I might have missed some though. And yea I did the 2ndary prof. quests.
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Old Apr 30, 2006, 12:31 AM // 00:31   #34
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Missions with two teams.... TERRIBLE idea, its like Random Arena for PvE
It wasn't hard enough finding a good group before, so now you have to find 2 good groups. Randomly.

3 times the other team leaves before bringing Mhenlo to where Togo is, one time the other team somehow EoE Bombs themselves instantly killing Mhenlo and everyone else, and another time the team actually shows up but Mhenlo gets stuck.
Twice me and the other team (both composed of 1 guy with 7 henchies) actually got past the 2nd "defending" area. But then one of them decided he got the skill he wanted to cap and left, while the other time we died at the 3rd spot.

Making missions that resemble all the worsts parts of Random Arena unskipable.... another TERRIBLE idea.

There are gates blocking the zones so nobody can run to places they havent got to yet and do missions out of order if they so choose.

And appearently I can't party with half the members of my guild for this mission cause they are all stuck in the other "version" of this town. (Local Quarter and Foreign Quarter)

So anyone who was trying this mission earlier got to do it with one team, lucky them. I guess now too many people got to the town so it decides to match them up randomly. Lucky me...
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Old Apr 30, 2006, 05:51 AM // 05:51   #35
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i found this mission not to be henchable due to the henchmen reacting to the movements of the other team and tryign to run to them and thus not fighting
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Old Apr 30, 2006, 07:01 AM // 07:01   #36
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This mission in general reminds me of my past nightmares at THK...sitting in town for an hour, hoping to GOD to find a competant group. Upon finding a group, we end up failing because nobody can agree on a strategy.

Only with THIS mission, there are two MORE things that help to make it even more frustrating...

-The fact that it relies on two teams
-The fact that it's bugged


Wonderful.
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Old Apr 30, 2006, 11:08 AM // 11:08   #37
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Done it today with a pug of level 12-19 mainly assassins + Sister Tai the Redundant and the second group of one warrior and all henches. I put together some crazy Ritualist healing build, and was the only human healer in there. Done it on the first try, because Rits are talented like that
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Old Apr 30, 2006, 02:34 PM // 14:34   #38
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Sorry you're having so much trouble with this one. I did it last night on my third try. Just keep trying with full player groups and you'll get it with a few tries. Henchmen are useless in Cantha and only use them if you must.
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Old Apr 30, 2006, 02:53 PM // 14:53   #39
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After the first battle, Mhenlo+Togo don't follow me... I've done the mission 10 times, and they never do... anyone know what to do?
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Old Apr 30, 2006, 03:17 PM // 15:17   #40
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Henchmen are useless in Cantha and only use them if you must.
I just did the Nahpui Quarter mission with henchies and we only had 3 deaths total (good old Devona dropped twice) - and I didn't use any "boss" trick that people were spouting about in the Outpost.

For things like Vizunah Square where it's total carnage I'd say they are probably not good enough, but for quests missions where you can take your time and pull groups they are more than adequate.

But to say they are useless is slightly overstating things imho.

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