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Old May 16, 2006, 01:10 AM // 01:10   #41
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A current elite skills list is on this forum here, along with a working list of areas we've narrowed down thus far while searching for AP. So far, this list is based on having no quests active (which sometimes precludes boss spawns). After that, we might have to focus on quest-related spawns. Feel free to add to the thread. For those who've asked about other elites, the only ones we haven't had any sign of whatsoever are Assassin's Promise and Ferocious Strike (in Cantha, that is).

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Maybe he or she is either in:
-An elite mission
No. The evidence and feedback thus far is that there are no elites exclusive to these areas.

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I'm not sure that they would answer, but anyone thought or tried emailing Anet about it?
I filed a bug report a little over a week ago. Since then (but probably not necessarily a result of it), we had the update which added a number of missing bosses. According to a report of an online chat with Gaile, AP is "in the game now" (which I assume means following this update).

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I am actually thinking that the problem is most likely one of the following:
  • boss gets killed by another group prior to our arrival (similar to some in the explorable area Unwaking Waters)
  • boss does not show obvious boss characteristics (a bit like the boss for Shadow Shroud, Shrouded Oni in Unwaking Waters)
  • a bug prevents the boss from spawning properly.
Very possibly. There are also some critters that aren't visible until they "emerge" from the earth or drop from above when you hit a certain trigger point. How many remember how long it took to find Feast of Corruption from the Wurm boss in a remote corner of the mountains near where they later added Sorrow's Furnace? Was it 5 weeks or so?

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Wait...Isn't this in the prinma guide?
No.

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When Shiro dies he does make a promise "I will get all of you" does he not? Seems to me like he'd be the most logical boss of having the skill. I really like that idea of him now being huntable somewhere in UW (or maybe a new unreleased UW/FoW type zone). Has anyone done a full clear of UW lately or tried entering from Lornar's Pass.
He would not be in a Chapter 1 accessible area with a Chapter 2 skill. But I wonder if there's some other way to check out Shiro?

OTOH, that seems unusually late in the game, to me.
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Old May 16, 2006, 02:29 AM // 02:29   #42
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I can't find heal as one on Wiki....as for assassin's promise, i bet Anet will fix that in the next update or so
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Old May 16, 2006, 02:33 AM // 02:33   #43
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Heal As One is one of the easiest caps to get outside of Jade Quarry on the Kurzick side.
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Old May 16, 2006, 03:19 AM // 03:19   #44
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I can't find heal as one on Wiki....as for assassin's promise, i bet Anet will fix that in the next update or so
Aforementioned thread:
Heal As One: Salke for Friend (Warden, Melandru's Hope, just outside of Jade Quarry)
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Old May 16, 2006, 07:05 AM // 07:05   #45
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the funny thing about the heal as one boss is that before the update he had lacerate like any good warden ranger type should. as for assassin's promise... brittany spears would say: oops a-net did it again!
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Old May 16, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03   #46
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look what my mesmer caught with arcane thievery



Stolen from a Shadow Blade Assassin during the 'Lambs to the Slaughter' quest. Unfortunately there is no boss (2% morale is from killing an afflicted boss).

There are several assassin bosses during the 'Challenge' quest. Maybe one of them has the skill. You get the quest in the Shenzun Tunnels entering from Maatu Keep.
EDIT: Just did that quest. The 4 named enemies don't have boss status. No morale and no elites to cap .

EDIT2: I should have wiped my IGN from the picture. I'm already getting random whispers .
Here is some information about the quest during which i caught the skill:

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Old May 16, 2006, 05:28 PM // 17:28   #47
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Aforementioned thread:
Heal As One: Salke for Friend (Warden, Melandru's Hope, just outside of Jade Quarry)
hehe its Salke Furr Friend dear.... Makes more sense that way to.

I had to read it twice while getting that cap last night. But its Furr as in furry animal friend or something *shrugs* It was one of the wierder boss names I have seen.
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Old May 16, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01   #48
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5 bucks says that it's on an Oni in the forest that you won't even see until you get close enough for it to pop in. Crazy little oni.
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Old May 16, 2006, 07:23 PM // 19:23   #49
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I was just south of House zu Heltzer last night and cam across a Mantis Assassin Boss that I am 60% sure had the Assassin Promise. Since I was playing a Necro I did not pay enough attention to say 100% for sure.
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Old May 16, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15   #50
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I am actually thinking that the problem is most likely one of the following:
  • boss gets killed by another group prior to our arrival (similar to some in the explorable area Unwaking Waters)
  • boss does not show obvious boss characteristics (a bit like the boss for Shadow Shroud, Shrouded Oni in Unwaking Waters)
  • a bug prevents the boss from spawning properly.
So short of hitting the signet of capture in arbitrary locations, I am at a loss. I posted this in another thread, but let me say it here as well. Has anybody seen ANY monster use Assassin's Promise at all? If so, where?
There is a 4th option: The boss could be interchangeable with another one, like the two Coldstone bosses of Perdition Rock.
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Old May 16, 2006, 08:36 PM // 20:36   #51
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If it was it would be a unique boss, so far every boss has been in the same place always, even if it needs a quest to be active to get it.

I vote next time Gaile comes on we ask her to ask the devs where it is. it's looking more like a glitch every day.

PS checked South of HZH and zip, There was an assasin Warden but that did'nt have AP
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Old May 16, 2006, 08:40 PM // 20:40   #52
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I've yet to see the elite skill used by any regular hostile (the ones roaming around EAs). As soon as the assassin-type hostile is found, it's just a matter of scouring the areas they exist to find the appropriate boss.
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Old May 16, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46   #53
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I think if we all send bug reports to anet then they will take note and do something about it.By either telling us where it is or putting the boss in.
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Well, as far as the theory goes about the boss being on an Oni ... if Factions is anything like Prophecies the boss won't be buried.

AFAIK, any creature that buries itself (hides, whatever you want to call it) will always be revealed already if it's a boss. Think devourer bosses, grasping ghoul bosses, shadow-bosses in Prophecies: they are all above-ground even though their monster type (the normal, non-boss variety) are almost always buried.

If this is different in Factions, someone correct me, as I haven't been all the way through it yet

Otherwise, we should make an assassin promise to tell us where it is
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AFAIK, any creature that buries itself (hides, whatever you want to call it) will always be revealed already if it's a boss. Think devourer bosses, grasping ghoul bosses, shadow-bosses in Prophecies: they are all above-ground even though their monster type (the normal, non-boss variety) are almost always buried.
Maw the Mountainheart?

I have to spoil everything dont I?
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Old May 16, 2006, 09:51 PM // 21:51   #56
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Well, as far as the theory goes about the boss being on an Oni ... if Factions is anything like Prophecies the boss won't be buried.

AFAIK, any creature that buries itself (hides, whatever you want to call it) will always be revealed already if it's a boss. Think devourer bosses, grasping ghoul bosses, shadow-bosses in Prophecies: they are all above-ground even though their monster type (the normal, non-boss variety) are almost always buried.
How could you forget about Maw? Only the biggest boss in the whole friggin game. Kinda surprised he doesn't tear the whole mountain up when he comes up to eat you...
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Old May 16, 2006, 10:04 PM // 22:04   #57
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yeah but he's revealed pretty quickly - lol
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Old May 16, 2006, 10:16 PM // 22:16   #58
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Ah yes forgot about maw ... I suppose he's the only one though (and I think the only wurm boss) I try and stay away from Dreadnaught's as much as possible now that the chests are no longer there

That's what I get for making a blanket statement
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Old May 16, 2006, 10:23 PM // 22:23   #59
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Im not sure but I sort of remember a sin boss using it arround the monestery?? Maybee... Im only like 10% sure.... So.. If im wrong dont yell at me.. im just throwing in a posibility...
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I think if we all send bug reports to anet then they will take note and do something about it.By either telling us where it is or putting the boss in.
Giving up so soon? I swear, you kids want everything handed to you on a silver platter these days

Gaile said it was in here....we will find it
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