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Old Jun 06, 2006, 09:25 AM // 09:25   #1
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Popped back into GW to help my guild earn some faction for their alliance and I’ve moved over to the Luxon side to do it. When I wrote the Kurzick companion to this, most people were calling for nerfs on the turtles because Luxon "always had the advantage". Now that Kurzick has learned to defend, Luxon is starting to complain

First off is a “perfect world” scenario. This assumes little opposition and few problems getting inside. Rarely the case but following this core strategy wins more than any other I’ve seen.

A lot of people are trying to advocate a one sided attack on the base. Everyone goes in through one side and beats their way into the green gate for an “easy” win. While many of these people promise success and a quick victory, the reality for following their strategy is (99 times in 100) overwhelming odds once you’re inside, getting kicked out by the NPCs, and a lost match while those strategists call everyone else on their team noobs.

Aside from noob, I’ve had these people call me a Kurzick and an afker for ignoring this nonsense, but they remain strangely silent when seven people, their turtle and Luxon warriors all die and they have to run in through the gate I’ve opened by myself…and a little help from my Luxon NPC minions.

The regulars in Aspenwood will all say the same thing: two sides equals two turtles. That’s your hammer here; those turtles can knock out most NPCs in two shots (one with a little help from you) so ignoring one third of your attack strength (GOING IN!) is probably not the smartest thing you can do.

Stick to that turtle, too. Those all powerful catapults can do some serious damage to Kurzicks, but they don’t hurt you a bit. It’s a roaming defense platform, dishing out fire nothing can ignore, and fighting around it ensures that some of what you attack is going to get hit.

Now that we’re out of the gate and moving down both sides of the field, you’ll probably notice a small swarm of blue dots appearing in front of you. Those are your Kurzicks coming in to take the orange and purple amber mines so they can do their jobs. The Longbows at the mine don’t last long against a strong onslaught, but a quick side trip to retake those mines means that the Kurzicks at least have to waste time taking them back again. It doesn’t hurt the tempo of the game to do this either, since you should have your turtle waddling its way to the first gate as we speak. Very important though: DON’T WASTE TIME ON THE RUNNERS. As a rule, burning all your time on a Whammo that is still going to get away from you is a waste of mana. Concentrate on the mine cleaners; take out the NPCs; that’s the goal of this mission.

I’ve heard and said this said several times in game: the mines are nice but Gunther is the goal. Focus on him if you want to win. Even attacking the mine cleaners you should keep an eye on your turtle. Left alone it will walk all the way to the green gate and start killing Gunter; but it’s a rare Kurzick team that will leave it be for long.

By the time the outer gates are both gone it’s usually time to say good bye to the mines for the day. Unless you’re in the middle of fighting off a second onslaught of Kurzicks, make your way to the turtle and get ready to go inside. When the inner gate falls is usually where the trouble starts for Luxon teams. An NPC guarded teleporter drops the Kurzick players right into the center of your offensive and many people lose interest in killing NPCs in favor of fighting the players that respawn.

DON’T. Unless a player is particularly nasty (MM, a good Mesmer, a smart Monk) or attacking the turtle then you’re most important task is to help those turtles set up for the green gate offensive. Focus on NPCs at the teleporter first and the turtles (with their Luxon warrior escort) will plant themselves right on top of that tele and start wailing green. As soon as that happens (if not sooner) you need to shift focus to another NPC in the Kurzick’s last stand: the Juggernaut. With a monster skill that knocks down turtles for 5 seconds and a punch that can wipe them out in 3, the Juggernaut can decimate your turtles in a minute easily. Both of them. Take it out; it’s a game breaker.

EDIT: Not a new development, but something more and more people are doing in game: avoiding the teleporter altogether, people run directly to the green gate and start wailing on stuff solo or in groups of 2 and sometimes 3. I’m not entirely sure what is going on inside these people’s heads. Whether they think that they can do to the green gate what they have been unable to do to both outer and inner gates before or they think that going for the Juggernaut early will help; maybe they think that if they run straight to the green gate that the turtle will switch targets and help them (which is NOT the case. The turtle has a set pattern of attack and movement. It will attack targets in a specific order and only move forward as those targets are destroyed) but I digress.

When the turtle is inside the Kurzick base is the worst possible time for you to Leeroy away from the AI’s attack plan. The Kurzicks are throwing everything they can at the team; a break up at this juncture loses you the Luxon Warriors and the turtle’s firepower. For the first time, you really are alone unless all eight members oif the team decide to go in with you.

The result is Kurzicks better able to focus their attack on the Luxon Warriors and th turtle, tearing your support to shreds. If they don’t kill your turtle, your support players and those eight helpful AIs, they will at the least keep you outside much longer than you should have been by defending the NPCs that the turtle is pounding.

More often than not, the Kurzicks do kill your turtle, the Luxon Warriors and your support players with ease. Without the true threat to concern them, the Kurzicks can (and do) turn their attention on the green gate Leeroy and easily tear him a new one…if the AI gate guards haven’t done it three times already.

Far from being poor strategy, charging Green too soon is just plain dumb.

Watch target calls and don’t get punchy. Move on the NPCs at the tele and concentrate on the nastiest players. That Juggernaut will come to you all too soon, moving away from the support ele and mesmers at the gate so you can take him out safely and quickly. With the tele NPCs down, the turtles should move forward to start hitting green.

Now, while the green gate is falling, is a good time to hang back and protect those turtles from the Kurzick players. After the gate goes down, its time to forget them. They’ve done their job; they got you inside and you can attack Gunther and his two healer hench friends. Most games, the Kurzicks will stop teleporting out to the turtles anyway, once every Luxon player dashes into their base and starts killing their 3 truly important allies.

Gatekeepers are both monk NPCs, adding a boost to any monk Kurzick you’re playing against. They don’t have the self heals they should though, so taking them out is not a problem. A lot of people want to just pound Gunther and be done with it at this point. My view is better to be thorough and ensure that win than take a chance at having to pound my way inside again. Kill the gatekeepers and most of your team can then focus on Gunter now. One or two can shift to the monks that are healing him if they are an issue, but mostly it’s all back to "Gunter is the goal". With him dead you win; if he’s alive when the blue bar fills, you lose. That simple.

Game breakers: there are several scenarios that can break a Luxon offensive, so I’m going to talk about them beyond the core strategy provided. Mostly it’s a question of timing. The Kurzicks who do this—above all else—want you to stop attacking their base, run all the way back to the start of the map and stop what they are doing or repair the damage they’ve done. Depending on how far you have to run or how bad you team needs you elsewhere, a judgment call has to be made as to when and how you deal with these situations.

First off are Commander Killers. Certain people have adapted GvG builds to suit this game style, and their tactics are similar. If a commander dies then you lose that command point and have to kill a pair of Kurzick NPCs to retake it. While the commander is down, no turtle reinforcements will come, meaning that a dead turtle stays dead until that control point is Luxon again.

Early in the game is the worst time to lose your commander but the best time for you to retake it. Once the inner gates drop its time to go inside Aspenwood and fight though.

Usually, a commander isn’t an issue until everything else is falling apart, and then he’s #1 on your priority. Retaking him is more important that protecting him imho. If your team is pushed outside and the turtles are on the deep end of dead, call a little help in to get that command point back in Luxon hands. Otherwise, most times you can ignore what that fellow on you flanks is doing.

Next is monks. If you’ve never played Guild Wars before then this will come as a surprise to you. Players can cast certain spells through walls. A spell like Flare won’t work, but a Meteor will drop on your head from anywhere. So will most heals.

A wide array of monks are trying their level best to heal the gate guards on the Kurzick side of the mission. The worst for you is a good Bonder. I’ve seen healers try, I’ve seen Prot Boons almost succeed, but a Bonder monk can reduce the damage to a gate guard and keep your team locked out for the whole game…provided you can’t strip his enchants. Many characters have some great skills that can remove enchantments (if damage dealers could be bothered to bring them). Assassins have a few that are remarkably good at keeping them off. Timing and precision can be a prerequisite for defeating a gate bonder, but it can be done with patience and persistence. Don’t get flustered; with the right tools, anything can be brought down.

Last is skill interupters. Longbow Rangers are the more dangerous seeing as they can stay safely out of range of anyone else while shutting down your turtle. I like prot spells for a simple fact. Guradian is an any ally 50% chance to block interupt rangers. If that doesn't earn it a place on your monks skill bar, I can't help you.

Now let’s talk about characters. I don’t advocate specific builds for most people. Use what you like. Keep in mind certain skills however, that I’ll focus on in your lineup. Most important of all: Bring Self Heals. Due to the mission’s randomness, you can’t assure yourself of a monk, and if you’re constantly dying, they’ll get sick of blowing all their mana on you and let you.

Assassin: it makes no sense to me that teleports do not allow you to go through walls. Warriors can attack through it if you stand right up against it, and much of the “unfairness” of bonder monks would be removed if teleports did what they should in this game, but I digress. Assassin speed and 1-man spike is disastrous to NPCs and players alike, but don’t ignore your hexes. As stated previously, you have some of the best non-damage elites in the game, preventing spells from being cast and enchantments as well. Use these to your advantage; round out your character.

Elementalist: nuke is nice, isn’t it now? AoE spells break up groups or kill them quickly, while helping your turtle keep moving at a faster pace by cleaning everything out in a single spell. I’m Earth ele when I nuke, so much of my energy goes into Unsteady Ground. There are a lot of melee fighters out there right now, making knockdown a sheer pain in the butt for most people trying to overwhelm a turtle. Wards I’ve tried, but the pace seems too quick for most of them; by the time they are cast, its time to move ahead. Water hexers also get a round of applause; slow an amber runner with Ice Prison and watch him creep creep creep his way back to base while your team pummels him from all sides as a snack on their way to green gate.

Necromancer: As I stated in the first guide, these missions are the #1 reason, imho, why the minion master necro was nerfed. It’s just sick how easily a good MM can tear into opposition by itself. Be sure to bring self heals though; Blood necro spells are a personal favorite here. Malign intervention has shown use in my bar several times; make sure to bring a minion theft spell like Verata’s Aura or gaze to take control and you should be able to keep your army near 10 and still doing damage. That said, nothing beats an SS necro for clearing out those mines solo and keeping the Kurzick Whammos and Assassins from bunching up on your turtle. SS will flat out trounce an Assassin 3 goes in 4. Don’t forget your enchant strips either; you’ve got two of the best in the game. Also, remember that life stealing ignores armor and enchantments. If a monk is causing trouble, give his gate guard a taste of what you can do.

Mesmer: Complicate is pure evil to a monk that needs to cast Blessed Signet for mana every 10 seconds or risk watching its charge die. You’re the bane of any skill spammer and everyone knows it. Degen hexes prove popular in this game, but I’ve found Diversion a devastating shutdown. Echo that on the monks and let the Whammos kill stuff to their hearts content.

Warrior: Charge works on turtles. There; I said it. If you need another reason to stick near them, consider that your interrupts and knockdown can cause more chaos because they come on top of the best DPS of the game already (I still hold them higher than Assassins due to death ratio and downtime) and you’re a rip roaring warrior from hell. Bring those speed buffs and armor buffs too; if you see a chance to run in and hit that gate bonder monk; take it. Just don’t go too far. That you can survive on your own is not the question; that you can keep your head and help your team where they need it most is. Remember: only you can prevent Whammo bashing.

Ranger: interrupt or damage, I love to see a ranger in the group. Because a lot of time can be spent stuck behind the inner gates while longbows attack your turtles, a good ranger can mean the difference between getting inside and waiting being locked down. R/N; touch necros are brutal in PvP. So too here. Life Stealing ignores both armor and enchantments in damage dealt; if the build appeals to you, try it. One of the few classes that can do more with alternate skills than the core profession, touch rangers are a fav of mine for their durability and destruction. Last up for Ranger is Edge of Extinction. Proper placement of this beyond evil skill means the difference between a Kurzick win and a Luxon stalemate (a loss). Get to know the map before you start dropping EoE as you please, and put it where it will do the Kurzicks the most harm. Remember; just because there’s a PvP build that slaughters in HoH doesn’t mean your team is going to be set up for it when you go in. One person ready for EoE is not as important as the other 7 players who aren’t.

Ritualist: I’m still not big on these guys, but I’ve seen some impressive things happen in game. Heal or attack, or heal and attack, Ritualists are everything a good smite monk should have been. Spirits keep killing for a long time after the rit is down, so spirit spammers are seeing a lot of play Kurzick side. Not so much Luxon though. Stick to healing mostly is all I can recommend; they are in short supply and union/recuperation work on allies. All allies.

Monk: Actual In-Game Quote: “Why should you worry about healing when you rez in 5 seconds?” Someone actually said this. I can only guess how he got that far into the game, but Ebay lies heavily on my mind when I think of him.

Scourge Healing is a very good hex to bring, but I will say this to all the smite monks that want to bring it: how much damage can you, 4 luxon warrior NPCs and a turtle do? As a smiter, not much. You and they are going to be dead soon. As a monk doing what monks do best, plenty. You keep those NPCs alive and healthy, the Kurzicks don’t know what hit them. I am not exaggerating when I say that I have broken through both outer and inner gates on my side and beaten my way into green gate ALONE! No help from the other seven members of my team, on 2 separate occasions a healing monk has beaten the Luxon team inside and was hitting Gunther! A monk with four Warrior skill spamming minions and a glass cannon to boot is a threat greater than any smite monk, and as dangerous as many MMs.

Just don’t forget about those other seven members of your team now that you know the secret to monking Aspenwood (Luxon). If they spend all their time running back from their rez point to help you fight, then they aren’t helping you fight. Prioritize turtles first, players second, and NPCs as you can.

I like Prot Boon over other builds; I’m #1 on the hit parade to most savy Kurzicks, and the strong self heals added with good protection to everything else makes me a powerful weapon with staying power. Hex and condition removal are a must here, furthering prots usefulness over heal. 2 all-party spells I’ve found that work well are Release Enchantments and Aegis, though rarely. Guardian+Divine Boon for Release fodder are a regular weak heal party for 2 mana more, and I get 2 more self heals out of the chain while I reapply. A Mo/Me Boon Prot with MoR is just sick for Releasing a Heal Party or CoPing yourself to remove hexes and conditions. Frankly I see a nerf for Release Enchantments soon; it's actually taken over my old Port Spirit slot, and I never thought any skill could do that!

Final Thought
Its a saying as old as war: when the first arrow flies, the best plans are thrust aside. Be flexible in your build and your tactics; play smart and adapt to threats. Kill whats killing you most; target whats stopping your advance first. There are no real cookie cutters for PvPvE, and no way to ensure the perfect team if there were.

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Old Jun 06, 2006, 09:57 AM // 09:57   #2
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Nice Guide.. ty!

Ive only used Rits in FA usually a Protective Rit Lord using the standard spirits that entails works pretty nice but if im targetted goodbye rit lol healing spikes are nice aswell
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Old Jun 06, 2006, 01:18 PM // 13:18   #3
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Thank you for posting this. Hopefully people will read it and acknowledge it as a good guide. I've been on too many missions where some wanna-be Patton insists on focusing on one side...to the point of leaving the game if people don't do what they command (on one occassion I just had to PM the little brat that we still won without him and using the two turtle attack...immature yes, but it gave me great pleasure). You're exactly right in pointing out that this is a waste of resources and it makes the Kurzicks defend two fronts instead of one. Excellent guide. Thanks again!
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Old Jun 06, 2006, 02:05 PM // 14:05   #4
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attacking one side is just stupid, its like everyone attacking the same target.

its just easier for the monks to prot and heal tat target.

if u came from both sides theres a lot more pressure.
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Old Jun 06, 2006, 02:20 PM // 14:20   #5
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And to put a great big exclamation point on it, I just did the mission again. People must be paying attention. I've never done it this quick before. I swear it must have only taken about 5 minutes for us to beat the Kurzicks.
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Old Jun 06, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18   #6
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A guide for luxons lol, u have to be brain dead not to win on this side. IMO Playing both sides i find it rly hard to lose on the luxon side. The only reason i play the kur. side is because its harder. When im luxon i usually go FC nuke, just because it rly makes people angry throwing AOE's like there going out of style. On the kur side you have the trench which makes nuking there even better. Basically what i do is waste time when they have monks. If the luxons have 2 monks you will need a good team just to beat them. Plus if they have a mez your basically screwed. Plus if the luxons move out of my range i cant rly do anything about it but attack the turtle and then the monks just out heal my dmg.

The kur. side seems to also have most of the.... you now whats lol. The luxons also dont seem to run there mouths as much as the kur. do. Even when i play on the kur. side that suxon joke is pretty dam old already.

I would rly like to be able to put 2 grps together to see what would happen. W/O any monks on either side the kur. have the advantage due to the trench they have. I like to call it the trench sry. Even having monks bonding and healing i found it impossible with my team to beat out another 2 monk team on the luxon side. Thats with me running FC nuke. Now i mostly run anti-war-ranger-sin. It works great on both sides. FC nuke people dont rly see that coming, so it has a little of suprize factor.

With 2 perfect equally set up teams i think the luxons have the edge. This is just what i have had to deal with and i mostly run this mission everyday. Im glad a-net made this i think they are alot of fun.

Now dont say OMG kur. win all the time. Cause i have played on both sides alot and both have there fair share of victorys. But if both teams had monks and support players. Both being skilled players, i think the luxons have the advantage. I love this mission.
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Old Jun 06, 2006, 10:55 PM // 22:55   #7
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Wow good guide, I also have to say I was one of the guys saying attack one side but I didn't call anyone noob (I think) I do apologise tho. Also I like to MM the mines by myself, very fun, with good enough momentum I can actually tear through the walls alone MUAHAHAHAHA. MMS are still GODS! (puts up nerf bat shield) lol
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Old Jun 07, 2006, 01:01 AM // 01:01   #8
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Great guide. So true about one monk + turtle + 4 NPCs = waving at the other 7players as you trounce on through. Much fun
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Old Jun 09, 2006, 05:28 AM // 05:28   #9
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Not a new development, but something more and more people are doing in game: avoiding the teleporter altogether, people run directly to the green gate and start wailing on stuff solo or in groups of 2 and sometimes 3. I’m not entirely sure what is going on inside these people’s heads. Whether they think that they can do to the green gate what they have been unable to do to both outer and inner gates before or they think that going for the Juggernaut early will help; maybe they think that if they run straight to the green gate that the turtle will switch targets and help them (which is NOT the case. The turtle has a set pattern of attack and movement. It will attack targets in a specific order and only move forward as those targets are destroyed) but I digress.

When the turtle is inside the Kurzick base is the worst possible time for you to Leeroy away from the AI’s attack plan. The Kurzicks are throwing everything they can at the team; a break up at this juncture loses you the Luxon Warriors and the turtle’s firepower. For the first time, you really are alone unless all eight members oif the team decide to go in with you.

The result is Kurzicks better able to focus their attack on the Luxon Warriors and th turtle, tearing your support to shreds. If they don’t kill your turtle, your support players and those eight helpful AIs, they will at the least keep you outside much longer than you should have been by defending the NPCs that the turtle is pounding.

More often than not, the Kurzicks do kill your turtle, the Luxon Warriors and your support players with ease. Without the true threat to concern them, the Kurzicks can (and do) turn their attention on the green gate Leeroy and easily tear him a new one…if the AI gate guards haven’t done it three times already.

Far from being poor strategy, charging Green too soon is just plain dumb.

Watch target calls and don’t get punchy. Move on the NPCs at the tele and concentrate on the nastiest players. That Juggernaut will come to you all too soon, moving away from the support ele and mesmers at the gate so you can take him out safely and quickly.

This post will be added to the OP but is intended as a bump. Now that my guild has its alliance, I’m outy. If anyone wants to add to this, feel free; I'll check it now and again and if a good sugestion is entered may add it to the OP.

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Old Jun 09, 2006, 06:48 AM // 06:48   #10
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juuuuuust bring unyielding auraaa. err, nice guide.
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Old Jun 09, 2006, 03:48 PM // 15:48   #11
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Thanks for this great guide. However I have some questions regarding the tips for monks. You suggest to bring 4 warrior skills, aegis (protection prayers), some kind of healing prayers as well I guess... what exactly is your build? I'm sure it's not but it sounds like spending his points in too many attributes to be really really efficient. I'm sure it would help a lot if you could post your build as an example. Thanks.
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Old Jun 09, 2006, 08:09 PM // 20:09   #12
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I never suggested bringing warrior skills on monk...

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I like Prot Boon over other builds; I’m #1 on the hit parade to most savy Kurzicks, and the strong self heals added with good protection to everything else makes me a powerful weapon with staying power...
...and nothing particularly special about it. Except for Release Enchantments (DF) and Aegis (Prot) on occassion, its a stock Mo/Me Boon Prot build running MoR and Inspired Hex for Emanagment. Even with Release, I prefer CoP for my swing slot since it gives me the choice then of powerful self heal+hex and condition removal when I need it or powerful group heal when everyone does. Release and Aegis are "flavor of the day" skills. Heavy castors? Go with Release. If there are a sudden surge of Whammos, grab Aegis.

Against most teams I can keep some if not all 4 Luxon Warrior NPCs alive to reach the green gate.

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Old Jun 10, 2006, 12:05 AM // 00:05   #13
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Great guide, I'll just stand up for us Rits by saying Shelter/Union just outside the green gate has kept many a party alive long enough to kill Gunther.

And I often find myself as the only one with disenchantments (Shatter enchant and Disenchantment ritual).
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Old Jun 10, 2006, 07:33 AM // 07:33   #14
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I think you missed alot of counter build against what kurzick are doing. You also missed a big exploit.

Well of profane completely destroy a bonder's piece of work.

Believe or not, fire storm with glyph of renewal is better than meteor shower with glyph of renenwal here. Main reason is the huge population of prot spirit. Also... fire ele solo any npc more efficient than anyone else. You can drop 2 fire storm and just run away, and the npc will die 9/10 times (given that you know what you are doing).

I am about to tell everyone a deep secret...

If the opportunity give, and you are able to get into striking range of gunther. You can wait until he use "charge!" and then run right back out. If no other allied force are near to interrupt his chase, the NPC going to follow its exact coding; "If self is faster than target, continue to chase and complete the attack". That is right, if gunther buffed his gate keeper and himself with charge, they will chase you all the way outside of the green gate. At that moment, you basically won the game. (don't know when are they going to fix this) While I don't believe this is the reason those people attack green gate for, as this exploit was something that I found out my own and is not yet wide spread. (I did seen 2 other people did this before, but not sure if it was accident or intentional)

While another exploit for the kurzick is that, if the gate was fixed when turtle was right on it; turtle will be stuck for as long as no one apporach it.

Ritualist spirit spammer... I can't believe how so many ritualist waste their spirit just randomly placing them. If a ritualist can place on the teleporter in a box formation around it (after tele npc is dead, or you are a tank), all is lost for the kurizck outside green gate. The turtle will then keep aiming for whoever going thru the teleport and got stuck there. Turtle will be collecting alot of jackpot (2-5 people at a time? priceless), and kurzick players would lose their will to continue sacrifising themselves going thru teleport. Thus, turtle move on to the green gate.

Another thing a warrior can do is... FOLLOW THEIR RUNNER. You as a damage tank, is the best choice to sneak into the base solo. The amber runners are often dumb enough to let you in all the way to gunther. Don't bother killing the runner, they are helping you after all. Once you get in, you know what to do.

Personally, I think the best kind of ranger for luxon is a traper. Trapping teleport would often completely stop the amber running, and you are still allowed to go in to help the turtle.

When I played as kurzick, my most devastating ability was taking mines in 3 sec solo (e/a). From purple to orange to green mines. That completely cripple the luxon being able to help turtle after death, mainly because they get rez all the way in the begining spot. By the time they get back to the turtle, they would realize that there are no turtle, aside a table with many bowls of soup (u know what soup). Personally, if I see myself doing that, the only choice I got is to baby sit the "mines solo machine". Good ele is annoying, keep your eyes out.

I really don't know what an assassin should be doing for luxon. In my opinion, the only thing they are good at is, soloing nasty targets. However, most assassin is a horrible observer... they are really more of a warrior material.

Last thing to say is... Keen observation wins the game.
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Old Jun 11, 2006, 07:12 AM // 07:12   #15
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Aye, good comments. I would have to agree that Luxon should have the advantage in this game, but I have seen some narrow Kurzick wins. Never an easy Kurzick win, though.

The only thing I hate is when the turtles decide to stop moving and just stay stuck until they die. That's annoying. They need to work on the pathing a little more.
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Old Jun 12, 2006, 02:11 PM // 14:11   #16
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Personally, I think the best kind of ranger for luxon is a traper. Trapping teleport would often completely stop the amber running, and you are still allowed to go in to help the turtle.

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I really don't know what an assassin should be doing for luxon. In my opinion, the only thing they are good at is, soloing nasty targets. However, most assassin is a horrible observer... they are really more of a warrior material.
Well at least, I beg you, rangers and assassins: forget barrage. You're not in the tombs or in FoW. There are countless great elites you can bring. Barrage is great, but it's great in PvE, in some places. As a monk, a punshoter with pin down for example can ruin my gaming. A barrager never did.

And by the way, to the so-called critical barragers (assassins): a barrager (ranger) can stay alive thanks to expertise defensive stances. As an assassin, if you are cautious you can still survive in PvE. But here you don't stand a chance. I've just killed 2 crit barragers 1-1 with my monk - do I need to say more?
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