Curse

Arcueid13 · Oct 13, 2006, 12:17 PM // 12:17

Yesterday I was farming Rotscale with a group of people, and an argument surfaced.

I was using fire storm on Rotscale because I think that with Winter up, Fire Storm would interrupt Rotscale every second for 10 second (if he's casting, of course), where as Meteor Shower would only interrupt Rotscale every 3 secons for 9 seconds. Damage-wise, at rank 15, in my case, fire storm does 14dmg/second for 10 second, for a total of 140dmg, where as Meteor Shower does 56dmg/3 sec for 9 sec, for a totaly of 168dmg. The difference in dmg is easily covered with a flare. Not to mention Meteor Shower takes 60 sec to recharge and 25 energy to cast, whereas Fire Storm takes 30 sec to recharge and 15 energy to cast.

I only use meteor shower to take out bowman and rotting dragons. And maybe on Rotscale when I have plenty of energy.

Please let me know if my reasoning is correct. Thanks!

T-D-C · Oct 13, 2006, 12:29 PM // 12:29

How would firestorm with Winter interrupt Rotscale? Unless you are using Spinal Shivers as well??? Just wanted to clear that up.

The thing is he wouldn't stay in the firestorm area for long as it triggers an AOE flee. Metor Shower doesn't trigger the flee script.

Tachyon · Oct 13, 2006, 12:29 PM // 12:29

Correct me if I'm wrong but how can you interupt with Firestorm even if Winter is active? I thought that all Winter did was to convert any elemental damage to cold damage regardless of what element it originally was.

Firestorm doesn't interupt as standard and I'm pretty sure that Winter doesn't add interupt to skills.

Franco · Oct 13, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00

He probably had a Necro using Spinal shivers, thought that would be obvious in rotscale farming. -_- Then winter turns fire storm into COLD STORM

, and interrupts.

ShadowStorm · Oct 13, 2006, 01:05 PM // 13:05

Since Firestorm/Winter can't interrupt anything without Spinal Shivers, Meteor Shower is better. Meteor Shower doesn't trigger AoE Flee script on the AI, because the enemies have to get hit 1 time every 1.5 seconds or sooner to trigger script, whereas Firestorm, which triggers every second, will.

Arcueid13 · Oct 13, 2006, 01:57 PM // 13:57

My bad!! Let me correct that, lol. Yes we did have Necro with shivers... I just assumed that every Rot farming group would have a necro with shiver.... :/

Rotscale doesn't run from Fire Storm. He pretty much stays in one place when he's all alone and the whole team ganging on him.

lightblade · Oct 13, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07

The answer is...BOTH!!!

Once you cast Fire Storm or Meteor Shower, rotscale will back off into the corner. This time, have you warrior pin it in the corner, and just keep nuking it with more Fire Storm and Meteor Shower

CHUIU · Oct 13, 2006, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Neither!

One monk goes tank, one goes smite, and you own him this way.

Hockster · Oct 15, 2006, 07:38 AM // 07:38

Anyone that uses firestorm needs to go back to school.

Carth` · Oct 15, 2006, 11:15 AM // 11:15

Please don't use Fire Storm anywhere except pre-searing Ascalon.

-Old 3FL- · Oct 15, 2006, 12:17 PM // 12:17

I <3 firestorm in pre sear

i can enjoy it for wat it used to be :P

madamesabina · Oct 15, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37

my biggest issue with firestorm is that it easily scatters groups and not into ideal places. also the knockdown and spike from meteorshower prevents them from getting anywhere detrimental to your team any time soon.

icedragon981 · Oct 16, 2006, 12:25 AM // 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth`

Please don't use Fire Storm anywhere except pre-searing Ascalon.

QFT, gotta love it when some random W/E runs into battle spamming FS and flare. *sigh*

Emu · Oct 16, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41

Firestorm is not completely useless in PVE. If, for some reason, you're having a great deal of trouble keeping aggro on your tanks and your casters are getting swarmed, firestorm can easily buy your casters 8 seconds of not being pounded on bliss.

Gorebrex · Oct 16, 2006, 01:15 AM // 01:15

Was pretty sure, but looked it up, and Meteor Shower causes exhaustion, which always makes me VERY reluctant to use a skill like that. Im PvE only, but dont feel any need to have the ability to lay down the absolute maximum amount of damage thats possible in-game. I use other skills, do ok, dont care for Firestorm much because of the recharge, but if I had to choose, Id take it over Meteor Shower. Of course, I think most other people would go the opposite way...

Arkantos · Oct 16, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41

If you use firestorm, please uninstall GW and throw your computer out of a 1000 story high building.

LouAl · Oct 16, 2006, 03:12 AM // 03:12

well that is just rude...

The guy already claimed that FS doesn't make Rot run anywhere (at least not anywhere bad) so quit banging on him over it.

I gotta say, nice job thinking about using FS + winter. I always assumed Shivers was for when they get hit with a cold weapon, which is not the case.

Anyway, my recommendation, assuming Rot doesn't run enough that all of FS hits him, is to use FS. You could use it twice as often and use about half the energy. The only issue I would see is that your necro might be pissed that s/he is out of energy in no time (and will probably stay that way because you can keep FS up more often). Good luck

ShaneOfMach · Oct 16, 2006, 04:00 AM // 04:00

haha everyone's logic here is so flawed

Firestorm would work great for rotscale farming, seeing as interruption is a must in surviving, Firestorm hits every 1 second, costs less energy, does not cost exhaustion, and does the same amount of damage.

Assuming your warrior is smart enough to pin it in the corner, Rotscale would WANT to run, but won't be able to move, allowing a few seconds of it just sitting their doing nothing.

Tell me a REASON not to bring firestorm, and then I might believe you. Otherwise, just don't talk with such a narrow mind assuming firestorm is bad for everything.

Stockholm · Oct 16, 2006, 04:32 AM // 04:32

"Only use Firestorm in Pre-Searing."

What a narrow minded cookie-cuter player you must be.
Have you ever thought outside the box yourself?
FS + Winter + SP smart idea keep them comming.

Arkantos why don't you jump from the same floor? or thats not posted in a build for cookie-cutters so you can't do it?

squan · Oct 16, 2006, 06:11 AM // 06:11

hmmmm i dont like firestorm that much, only good thing about it is that you dont get exhaustion. but for the rest it scks.