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wassup1444465 · Nov 06, 2006, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Then how does that help in killing shiro and why does everyone say to do that to kill him?

Jeff Highwind · Nov 06, 2006, 10:20 PM // 22:20

You are summoning a lvl30 GOD to your side. And 5 of them no less.

llsektorll · Nov 06, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47

All you need to do is get to shiro have atleast 2 monks... one must have light of deliverance and heal party... both must take guardian and prot spirit with a few atts in prot prayers.

1. get to shiro and lich
2. kill off lich IGNORE SHIRO DO NOT ATTACK HIM EVEN IF HE IS ATTACKING YOU. Shiro doesn't do much dmg if he is healthy.
3. Go to the 5 temples and kill the mobs there. For each temple you gain you gain a different buff. PLEASE NOTE shiro will be attacking you while you do this just ingore him and pretend he is not there. He will usually go after one soft target and that is what the gaurdian is for... just gaurdian spamm him and he won't do much.
4. Once all 5 temples are captured proceed to go after shiro
5. With all the god buffs you should have no problems.

PROT SPIRIT IS YOUR BEST FRIEND PLEASE PVE MONKS DROP THAT HEALING BREEZE AND TAKE PROT SPIRIT... PLEASE!!!!

Priest Of Sin · Nov 07, 2006, 04:09 AM // 04:09

Sooooooooo much dervish hate... it's not OUR fault we die in two hits from ele skills. Oh well.

I'll try the Blinding Flash/Spoil Victor henchway build... maybe put IWAY in Koss' skillbar for kicks.

Jeff Highwind · Nov 07, 2006, 04:11 AM // 04:11

I will revenge you will probably fuel Impossible Odds, so I would be careful.

Zinger314 · Nov 07, 2006, 04:30 AM // 04:30

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Originally Posted by Jeff Highwind

You are summoning a lvl30 GOD to your side. And 5 of them no less.

Yes. Because +20 Armor vs. Elemental really helps against Shiro's blades.

The Altars are only necessary for the Bonus, really. It's easy to do, so you might as well.

Jeff Highwind · Nov 07, 2006, 04:35 AM // 04:35

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Yes. Because +20 Armor vs. Elemental really helps against Shiro's blades.

...Wait they don't fight with you? That's rather gay.

Knightsaber Sith · Nov 07, 2006, 05:19 AM // 05:19

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Originally Posted by Priest Of Sin

Sooooooooo much dervish hate... it's not OUR fault we die in two hits from ele skills. Oh well.

I'll try the Blinding Flash/Spoil Victor henchway build... maybe put IWAY in Koss' skillbar for kicks.

If you maintain vital boon, mystic regeneration, and conviction a dervish can tank pretty well; and avatar of balthazar doesn't hurt. That's how I tanked shiro.

Artkin · Nov 07, 2006, 10:49 AM // 10:49

I'm a warrior...I took heroes/henchies and got masters on the third try...just go about it smart

linh · Nov 07, 2006, 11:22 AM // 11:22

Old thing: "Thunderhead Keep mission is too hard. Please nerf it."

noir0 · Nov 07, 2006, 01:14 PM // 13:14

don't ask me how i did it but i kinda soloed shiro >_>.

I ran down to the bit where he was nursing his wounds (about half health since he always runs away..) and tried to lure him.. he just stood there.. my henchies/heroes were back up the hill so i attacked him.. no response he just stood there spamming battle scar.. so i proceded to chip away at his health for about 30 odd mins.. then he died >_>. Was using a bleeding/burning/wildthrow spear paragon btw.

(This was after killing the lich.)

moenbase · Nov 07, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

Haven't been able to come to the Shiro and Lich fight yet.
I keep getting killed when I try to kill those portal wraiths.
Those darkness creeps keep respawning everytime. And those Titans, Margonites and Wraiths keeps killing me.
Any trick to do this right?

Also im not sure what to do at the Shiroken part. Whenever you kill a group, another group just respawns.

Swinging Fists · Nov 07, 2006, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by moenbase

Haven't been able to come to the Shiro and Lich fight yet.
I keep getting killed when I try to kill those portal wraiths.
Those darkness creeps keep respawning everytime. And those Titans, Margonites and Wraiths keeps killing me.
Any trick to do this right?

Also im not sure what to do at the Shiroken part. Whenever you kill a group, another group just respawns.

Yeah, I think this part is harder than it seems based on the little attention it gets. Everybody complains about Shiro. In a nutshell - you have to kill the 3 wraiths to close the portal. As long as the portal remains open, the Shiroken will continually respawn. Just try to control aggro as best you can, isolate the wraiths whenever possible, and close those portals. The wraiths aren't difficult - isolating them can be.

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Originally Posted by wassum1444465

Then how does that help in killing shiro and why does everyone say to do that to kill him?

For each of the shrines that you capture, you receive that God's blessing. I haven't looked too closely at each of the icons during the mission, as I've been kind of busy with the task at hand, but I assume they are the blessings that you normally get from each of the Gods, such as increased life, energy, whatever. I found it quite easy to take down Shiro after getting the blessings ( don't know if it was because of the blessings or not ) by just spacing out my heroes. Shiro went down and my party's red bars didn't really go down much. Also, I brought a minion master, which was nice to keep Shiro occupied (and he actually deaggroed) while I was capping the shrines.

rezabm · Nov 07, 2006, 06:49 PM // 18:49

I think this mission is adequatly hard and doesn't need nerf.

What needs nerf is Domain of Fear, when you leave the outpost you face huge mobs of lvl28 monsters wandering around, there is nowhere to lure, many times the mobs spawn directly at the entrance and you're dead before the map loads...you just get spiked by dozen Deep Freezes and that's it. I just wanted to explore the area with heroes/hench and I got to DP60% before I lost the town portal from my compas view...this area really sucks big time.

Velath · Nov 07, 2006, 07:03 PM // 19:03

^ Do you have the Master's Quest in your log at the time? If so, abandon it and go explore again, it shouldn't be that difficult.

Finally got through it last night with henchies/heros.

About the portal wraiths though, the trick is all aggro. When I first get near a portal I'll lure a group of margonites (or whatever) if there are 4 of them. Kill them, then two more should spawn. I then ignore them, run in and kill the wraiths, picking up whatever spawned after. I'll also usually wait till they move a little way off so they don't aggro till they come back. Really just sit tight for a minute and see what direction they move in and you shouldn't have too many problems.

The lich went down real easy, I blinded him for good measure and interrupt his vortex spell, and he doesn't do much damage. Shiro chased the henchies around for good measure but doesn't do too much damage at that point.

With Shiro alone I took him on like normal, blind is hilarious before he gets to impossible odds, but that's when the fun starts. I pulled him up into the corridor leading in, and he does a small run back and forth thing depending on where you are. My strategy was this: I would attack him from about 50% health to where he activates IO. During this time I had my ranger setting barbed and flame traps behind me and Devona (you could probably use more but it isn't necessary) then when IO activates I flag them and run back. Shiro pursues of course and happily trips the traps. Then I just threw on Flashing Blades and attacked. It was enough that with my Spoil Victor/Insidious/reckless haste mm and air ele he dropped before Flashing Blades even ran out, and I tanked Shiro with my sin! It was funny that after three tries I finally killed Shiro and no one died. But I didn't go for masters so I have a suspicion that's what I'll be doing in the near future!

This mission is tough compared to many others, but look for a strategy and he goes down fairly easy. GL

Mistress Mindbender · Nov 07, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09

I briefly skimmed this thread so I could have missed it....

One thing I didn't see mentioned is that all hexes, and conditions drop off shiro when he uses impossible odds (doesn't just spread). So just wait to reapply blind, spoil ect after he uses that.

Also, if shiro is the hangup of this mission, go practice in imperial sanctum with henches and your heros. Just dont use celestial skills. If you can beat him there, you should have no problem here.

Anet toned shiro down quite a bit for this mission, so be greatful for that. He won't use banish or meditation.

Duncan Idaho · Nov 07, 2006, 08:28 PM // 20:28

Done with 3 heroes and 4 henchies. If Anet nerf it, they'd better toughen Abbadon... i cannot believe a god is such a weakling

bigroach · Nov 07, 2006, 09:52 PM // 21:52

I was stuck on it for awhile but eventually I beat it with heroes/hench.

I was a warrior and just used stances to defend against shiro while the rest of the party killed him. no special offensive skills or anything. the important and hard part is manuevering so that he is only attacking you and not other people. you probably have to use the npc control flags for this. I found outside the entrance to be a good spot to stand.

Ic Zero · Nov 07, 2006, 09:58 PM // 21:58

1. Me (paragon)
2. Master of Whispers w/ spoil victor
3. Koss w/ wild blow
4. Zhed w/ Blurred vision
5. Mhenlo
6.Kihm
7.Cynn
8.Herta

lightblade · Nov 07, 2006, 11:48 PM // 23:48

Gr....blind is a must, bring Zhed with you...Aura of Restoration, Air attune, ether prodigy, blinding flash, e. charge, glyph of lesser energy.

and a second blood nec with spoil victor and empathy will solve the problem.

and make sure you have 2 warriors to tank him, it's the only class that can survive impossible odds