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Old Feb 09, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02   #21
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Ok that really wouldn't work ok... you know he has this skill:



All your Build would do is heal him constantly.
yeah I know he has that skill, as should be evident from my post, I was just trying to brainstorm.


I wasnt aware that he couldnt be knocked down, so that nerfs my entire idea even further. I guess the best bet is concussion shot then and aim for his longer casts and hope you can keep it on him for long enough to matter. If edenial works as a general rule perhaps qz and quicksand and bring a BiPper?

Obviously my idea wasn't to heal him, but I figured if he was on his butt, he CANT remove the hexes and cant heal himself.

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Old Feb 09, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36   #22
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Can anyone answer me this please:
- Does Mallix only uses skills to attack a player ?
- If he doesnt, how much is the damage inflicted to a player? (I know it depends on the armor, but +/-, how much is it?)
- Does he attacks fast?

PS: Since "Unyielding Anguish" has a 1.5s cast time on Mallix, "casting skills" that interrupt spells wouldn't be more efficient that bow attack? (Just asking)
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Old Feb 09, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28   #23
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Can anyone answer me this please:
- Does Mallix only uses skills to attack a player ?
- If he doesnt, how much is the damage inflicted to a player? (I know it depends on the armor, but +/-, how much is it?)
- Does he attacks fast?

PS: Since "Unyielding Anguish" has a 1.5s cast time on Mallix, "casting skills" that interrupt spells wouldn't be more efficient that bow attack? (Just asking)
1) No, he uses regular attacks. It seems to me he has a hammer warrior's attack rate.

2) A lot, 80+ (closer to 100 on casters) if I recall correctly.

Unyielding Anguish casts in 3 seconds, he does not activate skills twice as fast.
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Old Feb 09, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56   #24
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Weapon of Remedy, Vengeful weapon, And lifestealing FTW?
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Old Feb 10, 2007, 12:14 AM // 00:14   #25
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well, there's still [wiki]Shadow Smash[/wiki] and [wiki]Wild Smash[/wiki] I believe those would count as attack skills, and +200 damage and target randomly shadowsteps doesn't seem all that helpful to the tank for holding aggro.
Honestly though, more I think about it, a r/rt oath spammer sounds useful... (sorry had to run off and do some work)... with like interrupts, oath shot, dissonance, shadowsong and mebbe pain. Yes he has a skill that can remove blindness every 7 secs, but how often do spirits attack? every 2 secs?. I also feel that applying one condition, which granted he can use to heal 300 pts every 7 secs (assuming your Ranger is completely inept and misses this interrupt every time with counting - as he WILL use consume torment every 7 secs if hes blind) BUT will also eliminate an equal or more amount of party damage is an ok tradeoff.

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Old Feb 10, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23   #26
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As much as I hate to complicate matter further you have to remember that whatever build you plan on using against Mallyx has to be able to also deal with the titan / torment waves before the door to Mallyx even opens.
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Old Feb 10, 2007, 01:46 AM // 01:46   #27
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mesmers own every boss possible, glint, shiro and anyone else. everyone ever heard of blackout? blackout spam ftw
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Old Feb 10, 2007, 01:51 AM // 01:51   #28
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mesmers own every boss possible, glint, shiro and anyone else. everyone ever heard of blackout? blackout spam ftw
I hope that was sarcasm.... even if it was... I'm still not done laughing from your comment after what was just posted about 2-5 hours ago.
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Old Feb 10, 2007, 02:13 PM // 14:13   #29
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i am trying to get a rit to old mallyx now im at GoA with him just forming a group with a rit lord=impossible
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Old Feb 10, 2007, 06:32 PM // 18:32   #30
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i am trying to get a rit to old mallyx now im at GoA with him just forming a group with a rit lord=impossible
Well yeah... what use is a Rit Lord, seriously. Everything is focused on the tank. If something does break off Prot Spirit is more useful, Shelter would die in seconds if it involves the tank. Union wouldn't even be seen, it'd die too fast. Displacement isn't worth mentioning either. Soothing or Recuperation could be worth mentioning (specially against Stunning Strike, Magehunter Smash and Backbreaker). Offensive spirits aren't worth mentioning at all.

As for a rit healer... i've never actually played 1. But without the power of Heal Party or Dwayna Kiss you don't really have much chance.
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Old Feb 10, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33   #31
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Just a question ... Do Mallyx's skills go through shadow form?
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Old Feb 10, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33   #32
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I've only been to DoA once, and didn't make it very far (I was an assassin and the only melee character there x.x), but I know a thing or two about interrupting, ranger and mesmer being two of my favourite classes.

So, I've got a question: How is mallyx effected by conditions? Would something like dazed work? This shadow step this is a spell after all. If you can daze him you'd double the cast time, and where Diversion fails to shut it down, [skill]Power Block[/skill] might succeed.

Also Mesmers with a high fast cast can drop their interrupt cast times even further (1/8th of a second), then it just becomes reflexes.
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Old Feb 10, 2007, 09:06 PM // 21:06   #33
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everyone ever heard of blackout? blackout spam ftw
Both Shiro AND Mallyx have super recharge times. blackout seems to do nothing.
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Old Feb 10, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36   #34
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lol this thread makes me laugh!!

<Recalls the "MAKE PVE HARDER THREADS"*

laughs some more.
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Old Feb 11, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32   #35
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we asked for an elite mission and we got it. stop yer whining.
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Old Feb 11, 2007, 12:56 AM // 00:56   #36
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we asked for an elite mission and we got it. stop yer whining.
but why arent they thinking out of the frames?? all iwe seen them do is make the boss stronger, faster, non-interupptible etc... and why are we still seeing so many ele/warrior/monk/nec groups? i mean would it hurt for them to think out a boss that would acctualy prefer his ass being kicked from other professions?

and yeah i also dont know how the heck i could get my Rt through any of the 4 sub-missions... not without a help from a guild
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Old Feb 11, 2007, 07:30 AM // 07:30   #37
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any interrupt will counter this easily .... i used to wait while mallyx was at the last 10% with my lb gaze just for the interrupt on his summon shadow , and lb gaze is a 1 sec cast... any1 who cant interrupt summon shadow with a 1/4 interrupt skill is no good
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Old Feb 11, 2007, 08:37 AM // 08:37   #38
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The legendary GuildWiki says this about using Diversion and Blackout against Mallyx:

"Consume Torment purges all hexes and conditions and converts them into a strong source of healing. This skill can be Diverted however. In fact, as Diversion is, itself, a hex, it will cause him to try and use this skill and lose it for a significant amount of time."

"Disabling Mallyx's skills with skills like Blackout."

So what is it? Do they work or not? I have a habit of believing pretty much anything on that site...
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Old Feb 11, 2007, 10:19 AM // 10:19   #39
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I just laugh when I see all these posts about the anticlimatic new so-called-elite area DoA (dead on arrival).

I am not touching this area even with a telescopic barge pole.

The whole concept sucks big big time and it only spolit the eagerness of many players to encounter this utter crappy place and even more so Razah.

OMFG, Razah, the pulicity behind Razah and what to we get, a ritualist and you have to get those gems to gain him after killing ubber mobs.

Sorry Anet and those who will disagree with me but no gg in doa.

All for now .....
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Old Feb 11, 2007, 07:37 PM // 19:37   #40
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I just laugh when I see all these posts about the anticlimatic new so-called-elite area DoA (dead on arrival).

I am not touching this area even with a telescopic barge pole.
-your post has nothing to do with helping this thread, your just complaining about doa and how it's too hard for you, doa is a place for something harder in PvE and it's a place to rly earn some $$. This thread is for comming up with a way to beat mallyx since the update that made him better. And I still don;t understand how mesmer skills have no effect on mallyx...I've tried using a necro with blackout and it has been working unless the mesmer gets teleported right away
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