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Swinging Fists · Jun 23, 2006, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Well, I certainly thank both of you for your answers. Although, post #278 does not state that it is a Tyrian. In fact, when I read that, I assumed it was Canthan, because you said "Now to start on 100% of Tyria", but thanks none the less.

And Shyft, in my post, I apologized for not reading the entire thread. You don't have to be so abrasive. I stopped after a few pages because there were many posts of "Thanks" for this and that and they got this spot and that. I also read toward the end, and did see SaucE's post, but no reference to Tyrian born. So, again, thanks for the response that it can be done. It's good to know without having to read 300 or so posts.

Shyft the Pyro · Jun 23, 2006, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by Swinging Fists

Well, I certainly thank both of you for your answers. Although, post #278 does not state that it is a Tyrian. In fact, when I read that, I assumed it was Canthan, because you said "Now to start on 100% of Tyria", but thanks none the less.

And Shyft, in my post, I apologized for not reading the entire thread. You don't have to be so abrasive. I stopped after a few pages because there were many posts of "Thanks" for this and that and they got this spot and that. I also read toward the end, and did see SaucE's post, but no reference to Tyrian born. So, again, thanks for the response that it can be done. It's good to know without having to read 300 or so posts.

I didn't mean to sound "abrasive," but the second page of this thread already has an excellent 100% Cantha map by Leighwyn, which he compiled with his Tyrian character. That's why he called the file "canthaBYtyrian.jpg"

Shuby · Jun 24, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

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Originally Posted by Shuby

Hi All,

Gratz to all who got their title and the people who helped. At the moment i'm stuck at 96.7%, tried to compare with other maps left in the thread but cant figure it out

. Any help would be appreciated, many thanks in advance.

Attachment 25842

Anyone can help me?

Havoc of PhoeniX · Jun 24, 2006, 07:25 PM // 19:25

Hey hey, i've been using the maps here to great effect to snatch a few % here and there but ive hit a wall at 99% and decided to get help here :P Any suggestions would be nice =)

I know Shiro's banishment area isn't fully done, but i keep getting banished to the same place at the moment so i guess il keep trying :/

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6672/99map6br.jpg

Edit: Ive picked up another .1% with a bit in the Sunjiang District and a small area in the noth Maishang Hills area near Bai Pasuu reach but im still struggling to find any more

Help >_<

Shyft the Pyro · Jun 24, 2006, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by Havoc of PhoeniX

Hey hey, i've been using the maps here to great effect to snatch a few % here and there but ive hit a wall at 99% and decided to get help here :P Any suggestions would be nice =)

I know Shiro's banishment area isn't fully done, but i keep getting banished to the same place at the moment so i guess il keep trying :/

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6672/99map6br.jpg

Just glancing over it:

-You can pick up a bit more at the very SW part of Panjiang Peninsula on Shing Jea Island (the naga cave);

-You can still uncover the SE part of Fort Aspenwood battle area. I recommend starting with the Kurzicks and hugging the right side before entering the fray;

-You can unfog a part of Dragon's Throat outpost by walking out and getting as close to the zone point as you can without zoning back in.

As has already been pointed out, Shiro always banishes PCs to the same area. The trick is to map all you can from the banishment path, and I think you could pick up a few more corners (compare with Leighwyn's map to be sure by using the method he suggested on page 2 of this thread).

There could be more, but I'm not at 100% yet myself

Shyft the Pyro · Jun 24, 2006, 07:46 PM // 19:46

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Originally Posted by Shuby

Anyone can help me?

Shuby, no one can help you with that picture. The image you provide is just a "clean" zoomed-out view of Cantha without the map markers. It's too small to effectively compare with other maps, and the cloud cover interferes with most of it.

What you should do is use the previously suggested method of "stitching" together your own cloudless and markerless map from screenshots of your "U" window stretched as wide as you can. That is what Leighwyn used to create his map (located on page 2 of this thread).

Still, I would suggest you compare your map with Leighwyn's first using the quick ALT+TAB method to line up his map to your "U" window with GW in window rather than full-screen mode. You can see the differences very clearly when you do this, and since you are the person who'll be spending the most time looking at your map it's the most effective way of finding the areas you may have missed.

Havoc of PhoeniX · Jun 24, 2006, 10:34 PM // 22:34

I think the Naga Cave part is done, comparing it to other maps ive seen, but il check the other points =)

Shyft the Pyro · Jun 24, 2006, 10:42 PM // 22:42

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Originally Posted by Havoc of PhoeniX

I think the Naga Cave part is done, comparing it to other maps ive seen, but il check the other points =)

You're right. As I said, I was only glancing over it. Not having anything to compare it to, I used my fickle memory

xarchitect · Jun 25, 2006, 04:07 AM // 04:07

I have a new canthan character going and plan on eventually getting the GMC title. Before I leave the starter island (I know I can come back later), I was hoping to completely finish off the map for it. Does anyone know what the map percentage is for the complete island (including the 0.7% for the intro area)?

tortugan · Jun 25, 2006, 08:28 AM // 08:28

could anyone help me? I've been stuck at 97.7% for a couple of days now and I just can't find the missing 2.3%. any help would be greatly appreciated, if the image isn't good say so and I'll switch it

Shuby · Jun 25, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01

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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro

Shuby, no one can help you with that picture. The image you provide is just a "clean" zoomed-out view of Cantha without the map markers. It's too small to effectively compare with other maps, and the cloud cover interferes with most of it.

What you should do is use the previously suggested method of "stitching" together your own cloudless and markerless map from screenshots of your "U" window stretched as wide as you can. That is what Leighwyn used to create his map (located on page 2 of this thread).

Still, I would suggest you compare your map with Leighwyn's first using the quick ALT+TAB method to line up his map to your "U" window with GW in window rather than full-screen mode. You can see the differences very clearly when you do this, and since you are the person who'll be spending the most time looking at your map it's the most effective way of finding the areas you may have missed.

Thanks for your response Shyft, your right, that picture was useless, sorry, my bad

...Ok, now what i did, is that i took 12 pics of my "U" map in different areas to cover the whole Cantha continent. Now i will try to stich the 12 pics together and see what it comes down to. Hope it works, thanx again.

Shyft the Pyro · Jun 25, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by tortugan

could anyone help me? I've been stuck at 97.7% for a couple of days now and I just can't find the missing 2.3%. any help would be greatly appreciated, if the image isn't good say so and I'll switch it

Tortugan, you have the same problem as Shuby here. You took a screenshot of the zoomed-out Canthan map, which is useless because of its low level of detail and interposing cloud cover. If you really want someone else to try comparing your map to the 100% one (something you should be doing on your own using Leighwyn's method until you hit 99% or so) you should stitch together screenshots of your "U" window in any picture-editing program that lets you do so. If MSPaint is the best you have access to, I highly recommend using Leighwyn's ALT+TAB comparison method on your own, since you'd have to manually match the screenshots to make a workable representation of how much you've opened up.

Shyft the Pyro · Jun 25, 2006, 07:03 PM // 19:03

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Originally Posted by xarchitect

I have a new canthan character going and plan on eventually getting the GMC title. Before I leave the starter island (I know I can come back later), I was hoping to completely finish off the map for it. Does anyone know what the map percentage is for the complete island (including the 0.7% for the intro area)?

The only things you really should concern yourself with are the following 3 areas:

1) The battle part of the Shing Jea Arena, accessible to characters level 1-10;

2) The Monastery Overlook, accessible to new Canthan characters through tutorials;

3) The locked parts of Zen Daijun which are only accessible through the Unwelcome Guest quest in Seitung Harbor (gates are closed while you're on a mission).

I don't know the % for the first 2, but the last netted my Tyrian character 0.3% when I walked the closed-off areas after fully exploring the map during the mission. The problem was that my character couldn't reenter Zen Daijun from Seitung Harbor alone, so I had to help out a native Canthan with the quest and go off exploring on my own (with henchies) afterwards.

DivineEnvoy · Jun 25, 2006, 10:19 PM // 22:19

I am currently at 98.5%, here is my map:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2107/gw0612ai.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3903/gw0629pp.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2842/gw0631tv.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6108/gw0642rx.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8071/gw0650kh.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1883/gw0662it.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5374/gw0671vp.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/807/gw0685jj.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7776/gw0698sn.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6261/gw0704bj.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5947/gw0714gc.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3281/gw0727mc.jpg
Can someone help me? I had compared my map to nearly 20 maps, just cant seem to find any fogged parts.
(I can't find someone to access banished and jade quarry part.)

valakivi · Jun 26, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06

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Originally Posted by valakivi

i cant get into quarry!!! hwo much % is that? im at 99.2 btw

finally got inside quarry both sides, got a good 0.5% and now im only missing 0.3%!!!

woohoo

or should i say

cause now it becomes harder

xarchitect · Jun 26, 2006, 05:38 AM // 05:38

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I have a new canthan character going and plan on eventually getting the GMC title. Before I leave the starter island (I know I can come back later), I was hoping to completely finish off the map for it. Does anyone know what the map percentage is for the complete island (including the 0.7% for the intro area)?

To sort of answer my own question (but not really), I am currently at 22.2% explored and haven't yet left the starter island. So if anyone else is wondering the same thing, there is at least 22.2%, but possibly more. I haven't checked my map against the master maps, but I have edge walked all of the zones.

pitah · Jun 26, 2006, 10:59 AM // 10:59

I'm stacked at 98.8% and I know I'm missing little part of Luxon Jade Quarry but getting there is a miracle so it's pretty hard to explore it. I don't know how to explore these to things on the picture (hyperlink). Tried egde walking with mountain one but it didn't work. Tips would be great.

http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=maps2lz.png

tharaver · Jun 26, 2006, 03:38 PM // 15:38

I am currently at 99% explored and see some areas still that I can explore, but some of them I just can't get too. The largest area of concern is what looks like a huge strip down the eastern most wall of the vizunah square mission and some at the bottom. I spent one night clearing that entirely and Wallwalking it multiple times with no noticable effect. I also cant get that northwestern spot between arborwood and tanglewood copse. It looks like a rather large chunk. Any help, or ideas would be very appreciated.

Thanks

dr1zz one · Jun 26, 2006, 05:19 PM // 17:19

Can somebody post a 100% Cantha Map for comparison purposes?
either 1024X768
or 1200X1024

Shyft the Pyro · Jun 26, 2006, 07:10 PM // 19:10

Finally made it to 100% of Cantha this morning. Last night, a tiny piece in Shenzun Tunnels and the very top of Shiro's banishment area (thanks again valakivi) got me to 99.9%, and the very bottom of the Unwaking Waters mission area finished the job

A great big thanks goes out again to Leighwyn for providing his "canthaBYtyrian" 100% map on the second page of this thread that has allowed me to reach my goal. I had the Tyrian title ever since it was introduced on 4/26/06, just never had a chance to flaunt it

Now, on to the questions:

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Originally Posted by Shuby

Ok, so i finally did some stitching with Paint, i hope the images are okay.
So here goes, hope it works. Right now i'm at 96.8%. Thanks in advance.
Somehow i cant attach the kaineng and forrest map.

From a passing glance, it seems you're missing the corners of the Jade Quarry battle area (accessible from inside the easternmost quarry, behind the NPCs, and in a similar fashion on the west wall inside the westernmost quarry). You might have to enter from both the Luxon and the Kurzick sides, and make a number of passes along the walls (while still contributing to the team, of course) to clear the whole thing up. I actually managed to get a bit more out of the Jade Quarry than Leighwyn's map shows. There's also probably a bit more you can uncover in the SE corner of Fort Aspenwood, most easily accessible from the Kurzick side. You also seem to be missing a tiny piece in the very SE corner of Zen Daijun on the Shing Jea Island. That part is accessible only during the Unwelcome Guest quest because the gates are locked during the mission, so you might have to help someone get through the quest in order to map it if you've already completed the quest for yourself.

If you want to post more images, host them offsite (I suggest http://www.imageshack.us) and put links into your post. I suspect Guru has a limit to how many images can be attached to each post.

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Originally Posted by DivineEnvoy

Can someone help me? I had compared my map to nearly 20 maps, just cant seem to find any fogged parts.
(I can't find someone to access banished and jade quarry part.)

You need a "banishment buddy" to uncover the very top of Shiro's banishment area. Using the "low HP" technique described earlier in this thread should be helpful in getting banished. Just use this thread to contact another aspiring Canthan Cartographer and go in together, taking turns in hope to get banished

From a cursory glance, it seems you can stand to lose some fog in the Sunjiang District area, going westward along the north wall. Be very careful traversing that area - there are multiple Shiroken mobs and several Construct bosses which will make your life very difficult, and if the whole party dies you'll come back up in a very uncomfortable spot and be better off starting back out of Zin Ku Corridor itself.

You also could uncover a bit more "farmland" next to Maatu Keep by walking the walls around the fogged area. You'll probably have to do all 3 neighboring zones - Pongmei Valley, Shenzun Tunnels and Sunjiang District. I recommend starting from the Sunjiang District outpost and heading south along the eastern wall of Shenzun Tunnels first, then heading east along the north wall of Pongmei Valley, then zoning into Sunjiang District and going east along its south wall until you hit the corner.

You can get a bit more in Unwaking Waters, by going south immediately outside the gate in the mission itself. I recommend you stick around for the whole mission afterwards in order not to give the rest of us cartographers a bad name

Like Shuby above, you can squeeze a bit more out of Jade Quarry by hugging its walls and entering the quarries on the west and east sides. You could also uncover an extra piece north of the Arborstone mission, by setting out from Tanglewood Copse and hugging the north and the west walls. The bit you're missing will pop up when you're heading north along the west wall (or at least that's where it did for me, because I had to come back for it as well).

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Originally Posted by valakivi

finally got inside quarry both sides, got a good 0.5% and now im only missing 0.3%!!!

It's not about which side you enter the Jade Quarry from, because both sides use the same map. The really problematic areas are on the east and west sides of the map, where you can unfog the island (east) and the shoreline (west) by walking into the quarries themselves. Next time you're inside the mission and you have the opportunity, walk behind the NPCs that are holding each side quarry into the little niche in the wall. You're bound to open a bit more map that way, though you might have to squeeze in between the Kurzick base and the outpost on the west wall in order to unfog the shoreline.

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Originally Posted by pitah

I'm stacked at 98.8% and I know I'm missing little part of Luxon Jade Quarry but getting there is a miracle so it's pretty hard to explore it. I don't know how to explore these to things on the picture (hyperlink). Tried egde walking with mountain one but it didn't work. Tips would be great.

You saved your file in .PNG format, which is causing it to take forever to load. I can't even see it, to be honest. Even though it will tone down the quality, please save it as a .JPG and post it again.

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Originally Posted by tharaver

I am currently at 99% explored and see some areas still that I can explore, but some of them I just can't get too. The largest area of concern is what looks like a huge strip down the eastern most wall of the vizunah square mission and some at the bottom. I spent one night clearing that entirely and Wallwalking it multiple times with no noticable effect. I also cant get that northwestern spot between arborwood and tanglewood copse. It looks like a rather large chunk. Any help, or ideas would be very appreciated.

What really annoys me are those "permanently fogged" areas - like directly between Nahpui Quarter and Senji's Corner - that exist on the Canthan map even though you can get close enough for them to show on your radar. You'll notice these areas are fogged on Leighwyn's map as well, so what you should do intead of focusing on them is looking for tiny spots of "light" fog you might have missed while more concerned with quests than with mapping.

The northwestern spot above Arborstone needs to be accessed from Tanglewood Copse by walking along the north wall of the area (which is still called Arborstone even though you can't walk both levels at the same time). Make sure to hug the west wall as well - there is a tough little spot that you might have to come back for if you miss it.

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Originally Posted by dr1zz one

Can somebody post a 100% Cantha Map for comparison purposes?
either 1024X768
or 1200X1024

Resolution that small won't give you anything. If you try to do it from a "clean" map shot, the cloud cover will interpose. If you try to shrink a "stitched" shot to that resolution, the details will be greatly diminished - to the point of being useless for comparison. Just use the map Leighwyn posted on the second page of this thread, a file called "canthaBYtyrian" which shows 100% of Cantha uncovered. Of course, some spots can be cleared a bit further (I ended up with a bit more of Jade Quarry open for my 100%) but it seems you don't have to have all of the map open to reach 100%.