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reverse_oreo · Aug 04, 2007, 05:43 PM // 17:43

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/13700

View this trailer, then compare it to the GW:EN trailer... Does it not look like the new Wow game looks very similar? Anet was first blizzard, back off ;D

Exoudeous · Aug 04, 2007, 05:45 PM // 17:45

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Originally Posted by reverse_oreo

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/13700

View this trailer, then compare it to the GW:EN trailer... Does it not look like the new Wow game looks very similar? Anet was first blizzard, back off ;D

yea no fantasy game has ever had things like that in it, especially not warcraft 1-3 which WoW gets all its lore and areas from.

/sarcasm

Molock · Aug 04, 2007, 05:48 PM // 17:48

I hate that game, lol

The usual WoW bs.. more quests, dungeons and a new level cap to grind to

*is not impresed*

LumpOfCole · Aug 04, 2007, 05:51 PM // 17:51

And now the threat runs deep... into forgotten lands.

Exoudeous · Aug 04, 2007, 05:52 PM // 17:52

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Originally Posted by Molock

I hate that game, lol

The usual WoW bs.. more quests, dungeons and a new level cap to grind to

*is not impresed*

besides the levelcap, you just described GW:EN, GG

symbiote · Aug 04, 2007, 05:54 PM // 17:54

Who was the first??? GW:EN or WoW.... GW i think...

Exoudeous · Aug 04, 2007, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Except for the fact that they have been working on this for a while and the new stuff for GW:EN wans shown till E3, and there is no way they could have made that stuff between then and now. Thus no one copied anyone.

stop with this wow vs gw crap, do you think there will be any meaning full talk about it on a GW message board? No cause almost every post will be "OMG wow is the suck, tehy cpoied"

Edit: see, check the above post

Onarik Amrak · Aug 04, 2007, 06:11 PM // 18:11

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Originally Posted by Exoudeous

Except for the fact that they have been working on this for a while and the new stuff for GW:EN wans shown till E3, and there is no way they could have made that stuff between then and now. Thus no one copied anyone.

stop with this wow vs gw crap, do you think there will be any meaning full talk about it on a GW message board? No cause almost every post will be "OMG wow is the suck, tehy cpoied"

Edit: see, check the above post

There has never been such thing as a well-thought out, meaningful or insightful WoW vs GW discussion. Ever. Probably never will be, until both games have shut down.

Omniclasm · Aug 04, 2007, 06:11 PM // 18:11

Better yet, who cares? Diablo 2's Expansion had added dungeon crawling too. GW:EN must be getting the idea from Diablo 2. What would an expansion to a RPG be if it didn't add new quests and new places to explore?

AlienFromBeyond · Aug 04, 2007, 06:49 PM // 18:49

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Originally Posted by reverse_oreo

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/13700

View this trailer, then compare it to the GW:EN trailer... Does it not look like the new Wow game looks very similar? Anet was first blizzard, back off ;D

Dude, as soon as WoW itself was announced, people knew that eventually, in some far off expansion, they would go into Northrent itself. Guild Wars is fun, but don't delude yourself into thinking it is the most original game to ever come along.

Bryant Again · Aug 04, 2007, 06:59 PM // 18:59

Hey, finally a chance to post my tinfoilish expansion pack theory, that there will most likely be an expansion pack that introduces a snowy/wintery area. Let's make a list of games that've had a "snowy" expansion:

Diablo 2 - Lord of Destruction expansion
Starcraft - Brood War expansion
Warhammer 40k - Winter Assault expansion
Morrowind - Bloodmoon expansion
Neverwinter Nights - Shadows of Undretide
Fable: The Lost Chapters

ZOMG!

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Originally Posted by reverse_oreo

Anet was first blizzard, back off ;D

Northerend was created in Warcraft III, which came far before Guild Wars. Nice miss.

Sharp.Edges · Aug 04, 2007, 07:02 PM // 19:02

If you are going to say someone copied the other between the two, its GW.
WoW had Northrend since Warcraft 3 which came out, what? 3 years before GW? Sure the trailer looks alike and all, but that doesn't mean that GW is more original. They just introduced GW:EN earlier.

And there are many more games that've had snowy places in expansions.

Zinger314 · Aug 04, 2007, 07:05 PM // 19:05

And this is why I think Guild Wars is an Amish video game. The players defend the game so vigorously that they are ignorant to everything else, and think that their culture (i.e. Guild Wars itself) is a gift from God himself.

Warcraft III was released in 2002. Guild Wars didn't even exist then.

wilebill · Aug 04, 2007, 07:16 PM // 19:16

Look at the announced Wrath of the Lich King features and you will see Armor Inscriptions and some other sort of GW'ish features. The Death Knight is a W/N, basically.

As for the lore, WoW is not copying GW. The WoW lore logically leads to a confrontation with King Arthas, the Lich King, and Northrend has always been in the north.

All that being said, the rumbling on the WoW boards is not entirely favorable. Another ten levels? Arrrrgh! Plus, all the hard work that has gone into fine tuning level 70 builds will be obsolete by level 72 or 73.

In any event, Wrath of the Lich King is 1.5 to 2 years away, maybe more. GW:EN is here at the end of this month!

dronex · Aug 04, 2007, 07:19 PM // 19:19

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

And this is why I think Guild Wars is an Amish video game. The players defend the game so vigorously that they are ignorant to everything else, and think that their culture (i.e. Guild Wars itself) is a gift from God himself.

Warcraft III was released in 2002. Guild Wars didn't even exist then.

Well i have played wow i have nothing against it and ive seen 2003 screens of GW ... so... i dunno who is copying who, its kinda sad really

What i saw in this trailer wasnt much different from what i saw in the GW:EN trailer couple of days ago :S

Bryant Again · Aug 04, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33

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Originally Posted by wilebill

Look at the announced Wrath of the Lich King features and you will see Armor Inscriptions and some other sort of GW'ish features. The Death Knight is a W/N, basically.

The Death Knight came all the way back from Warcraft 2. They've been in existance for awhile.

As for inscriptions, it isn't clear what that's all about. Here's the definition from the website:

"Learn the craft of spell augmentation with the new Inscription profession."

If anything, I think Guild Wars is going to rip off this:

"Transform your hero's look with new character-customization options, including new hairstyles and dances."

YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHANGE YOUR HAIR! WOOOO!!!

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All that being said, the rumbling on the WoW boards is not entirely favorable.

If you're looking to see how the WoW population is reacting to this news, the forums is probably the LAST place you should look. It's filled with nothing but whiners and greifers, and is about less than 1% of WoW's population.

Zinger314 · Aug 04, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33

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Originally Posted by wilebill

Look at the announced Wrath of the Lich King features and you will see Armor Inscriptions and some other sort of GW'ish features.

And how did you get "Armor Inscriptions" from that trailer? Sounds like a big jump to a wrong conclusion.

From the official FAQ:

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What can you reveal about the new profession coming with the expansion?

The Inscription profession will allow players to permanently enhance their own spells and abilities and those of other players. You can think of it as enchanting for your spells and abilities. We'll provide more specific details on the mechanics of this new profession in the months ahead.

Yeah. That's soooo copying Guild Wars.

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Originally Posted by wilebill

All that being said, the rumbling on the WoW boards is not entirely favorable. Another ten levels? Arrrrgh! Plus, all the hard work that has gone into fine tuning level 70 builds will be obsolete by level 72 or 73.

You clearly read the forums wrong. The forums are complaining that lv. 70 gear will be obsolete by 72-73, which was a problem with the first expansion. Blizzard definately knows that, and will likely try to make gear progression more linear.

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Originally Posted by dronex

Well i have played wow i have nothing against it and ive seen 2003 screens of GW ... so... i dunno who is copying who, its kinda sad really

In 2003, the GW Beta began in Gates of Kryta, and the main town was Lion's Arch. I stongly doubt ArenaNet had a grand plan to make GW:EN at that point.

Nevin · Aug 04, 2007, 07:41 PM // 19:41

So far this expansion looks like it kicks the crap out of GW:EN. Changeable hairstyles?, that just puts it over the top.

ShadowbaneX · Aug 04, 2007, 07:48 PM // 19:48

Saw what you will about Blizzard they at least did this where A.Net couldn't/wouldn't/didn't.

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The Inscription profession will allow players to permanently enhance their own spells and abilities and those of other players. You can think of it as enchanting for your spells and abilities. We'll provide more specific details on the mechanics of this new profession in the months ahead.

This actually sounds rather interesting. Shame that the mesmer didn't have some abilities like this. They're the masters/mistresses of all things arcane. Too bad they couldn't have abilities that allow them to buff party member's spell casting abilities (higher effect, more range, spells cost less) or hinder their enemies' abilities (small effect, shorter range, increase spell cost), etc. Perhaps change Fast Cast to Arcane Mastery or buff the Inspiration line.

sindex · Aug 04, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52

I have to say though that both GW EotN and the WoW: Wrath on the Lich King brings back two familiar characters and places that we know from the past. One is Gwen and the other Arthas Menethil/Lich King (Ner'zhul). Secondly one being the Northern Shiverpeaks the other is Northrend. Honestly I have to give points to both expansions in sense, because it pits the two at a rather ongoing competition for something so familiar each fan base.

I on the other hand will be picking up EotN and not this game though, for I still dislike the WoW system. Even if I miss out on the storyline, I thought they were going to continue with the first WoW but never did.