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t_the_nihilst · Aug 16, 2007, 09:28 PM // 21:28

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

Time to end this argument.

-You're lying on this thread about the effectiveness of your build.

-You're lying about ownership of FoW armor

-You're making up stories abut that monk

-You have not done FoW that much because you cannot get into a group with that build, so you know nothing about it. For your information, Cows are in the underworld, not FoW just so you know.

-You know nothing about FoW or the UW

-You are lying about soloing two Cows on that build, or even one

-You do not know what a Cow is

-You made this post because you are angry that you cannot farm FoW or UW because the groups refuse to take them with you.

I don't blame them one bit.

End of story.

I'm sorry, but I lol'd.
Nice try, dude.

You can't see me · Aug 16, 2007, 09:30 PM // 21:30

The Build IS dreadful. I tested it on my own necromancer and it could not even make a kill in Noob island Cantha and Elona.

Much less the Fissure of Woe.

And god help it in the Underworld.

Renegade26 · Aug 16, 2007, 09:30 PM // 21:30

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Originally Posted by populationcontrol

as to the guy that insists that he gets in to fow farming teams all the time as assasin in an effort to discredit my observation on how narrow minded fow teams can be, seriously get real maybe as a last resort or if you pay for everyone otherwise i really know not only because when im in groups they never let the applying assasin in but they also say stuff a long the lines of "assasins suck in fow", "lol look assasin thinks hell ill let him in my team" "assasins are only good for pvp" and much more. so like stop pretending assasins are accepted in the average fow team.

Oh hey that would be me. I get into teams because I present myself as someone who has a clue. I use a decent proffession setup (AssMe) and I know the area well. I can bring chain and Mobieious Strike (I fail at spelling it <_<) as well as Crit Defence and Crit Agility, and I also bring Hex Breaker and time it with the 2 second Curse cast so that I can avoid SS, as well as Empathys and the fire hex if I need.

I do not pay everyone to let me into teams, and I'm not a "last resort", whatever that is meant to mean. Im simply saying that if teams will take my Assassin, its not your class that is the problem. Although it helps to have Mighty Gladiator (3), PvEers respect RA pr0s

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Tbh in my HONEST opinion, you should stop pretending you still think your build is accpetable and learn to learn from others. Dont turn around and call us liers when we tell you what we think. If you dont believe it, fine live in your fantasy world where HealSig is awesome with 60 armor, and Ripostes last forever and block spells.

You can't see me · Aug 16, 2007, 09:31 PM // 21:31

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Originally Posted by t_the_nihilst

I'm sorry, but I lol'd.
Nice try, dude.

Lol'd at him or me? (Before I say anything.)

t_the_nihilst · Aug 16, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

Lol'd at him or me? (Before I say anything.)

Oh him, of course. I was talking on the phone while typing and I fail at brevity.

You can't see me · Aug 16, 2007, 09:38 PM // 21:38

Lol.

Well I'm glad this is straightened out. I almost feel like going to ToA and declining him from my group as soon as I see his build.

Curse You · Aug 16, 2007, 09:39 PM // 21:39

Am I the only one who is amused by the irony of this thread?

A thread is started about the narrow mindedness of FoW PuGs. Then it turns out that the person who started it is, in fact, extremely narrow minded.

Being a hypocrite is never a good thing, but it can be amusing to watch.

populationcontrol · Aug 16, 2007, 09:53 PM // 21:53

its easy solo a cow with my ss, blood riposte build. easiest option if monk dies is to lure the cows to the spirit that blocks the cow and often he gets stuck and you can kill him using blood skills at your leisure. if however the monks are to far out and wandering on monks body and you have to clear them to res or just want to kill one before you go to toa and go in again what you do is raise deadly riposte blood spike him gaze, agressor when he closes in on you start to kite but allow him to hit you once and run away. he will chase then run back after a certain point. all you do is repeat by chasing him blood skills run away while allowing him to activate riposte and kitting. you cant take more than 3 hits or your dead but its fairly easy though it takes a while. i take heal sig and ripostes for i find it easier to survive when the mob attacking monk 2 break off and atack you, ive cleared uw many times with this. so no im not lying and id be glad to show you my fow armor which ive also been accused of fabricating. and no using unconventional stuff is the opposite of beeing narrowminded, sorry there too.

and dude i got to fow everyday and nope never are assasins allowed in my group (unless i lead). i dont really care if you deny this, cheers**

Renegade26 · Aug 16, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07

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Originally Posted by populationcontrol

its easy solo a cow with my ss, blood riposte build. easiest option if monk dies is to lure the cows to the spirit that blocks the cow and often he gets stuck and you can kill him using blood skills at your leisure. if however the monks are to far out and wandering on monks body and you have to clear them to res or just want to kill one before you go to toa and go in again what you do is raise deadly riposte blood spike him gaze, agressor when he closes in on you start to kite but allow him to hit you once and run away. he will chase then run back after a certain point. all you do is repeat by chasing him blood skills run away while allowing him to activate riposte and kitting. you cant take more than 3 hits or your dead but its fairly easy though it takes a while. i take heal sig and ripostes for i find it easier to survive when the mob attacking monk 2 break off and atack you, ive cleared uw many times with this. so no im not lying and id be glad to show you my fow armor which ive also been accused of fabricating. and no using unconventional stuff is the opposite of beeing narrowminded, sorry there too.

and dude i got to fow everyday and nope never are assasins allowed in my group (unless i lead). i dont really care if you deny this, cheers**

What district? I actually sit in ToA comm1 all day, and Id love to see your name there. Never have I seen a N/W, in or out of a group, and I would certainly notice. Also I thought you were complaining that you couldnt go to FoW, how can you be there everyday, and also how often are Assassins in ToA. My experience says if there is one, its me <_<. And ive never been rejected from a group.

Also stop calling it a cow, its a bladed aatxe. Another thing, you do not clear UW with kiting and Blood skills (its not spiking because its blood skills). More than one aatxe = gg. Any graspings = gg.

Another thing, if you actually were in a group and staying, the leader probly allowed your noobish build in but didnt want to risk any more noobish characters in, so didnt risk the Assassin. I know if I had the will to keep you in my group with that shambles I would be very hesitant to take an Assassin when Meteor Showers are obviously going to be in need.

Tomorrow Ill try and get into as many FoW groups as possible with my Sin, and Ill give you my genuine results (if I can still be bothered by then).

I literally just logged on to my Sin and got into a HM FoW group straight away.

You can't see me · Aug 16, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13

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Originally Posted by populationcontrol

its easy solo a cow with my ss, blood riposte build. easiest option if monk dies is to lure the cows to the spirit that blocks the cow and often he gets stuck and you can kill him using blood skills at your leisure. if however the monks are to far out and wandering on monks body and you have to clear them to res or just want to kill one before you go to toa and go in again what you do is raise deadly riposte blood spike him gaze, agressor when he closes in on you start to kite but allow him to hit you once and run away. he will chase then run back after a certain point. all you do is repeat by chasing him blood skills run away while allowing him to activate riposte and kitting. you cant take more than 3 hits or your dead but its fairly easy though it takes a while. i take heal sig and ripostes for i find it easier to survive when the mob attacking monk 2 break off and atack you, ive cleared uw many times with this. so no im not lying and id be glad to show you my fow armor which ive also been accused of fabricating. and no using unconventional stuff is the opposite of beeing narrowminded, sorry there too.

and dude i got to fow everyday and nope never are assasins allowed in my group (unless i lead). i dont really care if you deny this, cheers**

I don't need to deny it, as lies are only breakable, not denyable.

And I'll break this lie right now.

SS only works if they're attacking you. If you catch them behind the ghost, then you don't do that crucial damage, and your other two skills do not do nearly enough damage to them to actually kill them if you are indeed catching them at the ghost, which on it's own is very hard to do.

And if you use blood skills and kite, you'll still die, unless you stick them on the ghost, and then you still won't do enough damage. I've tested your build in the underworld, and your mentioned tactic. If it actually worked, it would be widely used by elementalists and such.

Assasins are not let in FoW groups because they are not as effective in a particular group build, which people use to farm FoW because they want to do it fast, not just because they want to let everyone in.

And as for your FoW armor, fabricated or a lie. If you had played enough to get this, you'd know that the build you mention does not indeed work.

See my other posts for more information on how much of your OP is composed of crap, and see my avatar for a simple one word answer to all your coming replies.

Deny fact as you will. I don't care. You make yourself look pathetic to me and all around you. Lie as you will, it degrades your reputation here and in game.

I really hope you just abandon this thread and give up. Putting lies on top of lies to answer thier bluff call will only lead to you looking like more of an idiot.

populationcontrol · Aug 16, 2007, 10:18 PM // 22:18

lol yes you have i guarantee you have been rejected from fow groups, dude they reject eles that arent ele/mes sometimes, same with necros. your class is like alien and like not even considered half the time. its actually quite funny.

and yes i can show you how to kill a cow alone, even two (with less success) but its definately doable, and what i was describing if you knew how to read is clearing 1 or 2 cows if monk is dead not clear uw alone, nooblet. graspings are way easier to kill than cows though often 2 at a time. my build would also own your assasin skill set described, you wouldnt stand a chance if we were 2 remaining people in opposing teams, i also have glad rank and my build is so strong against meelee 1 on 1 that i dont even need an elite to kill you, gg.

You can't see me · Aug 16, 2007, 10:23 PM // 22:23

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Originally Posted by populationcontrol

lol yes you have i guarantee you have been rejected from fow groups, dude they reject eles that arent ele/mes sometimes, same with necros. your class is like alien and like not even considered half the time. its actually quite funny.

and yes i can show you how to kill a cow alone, even two (with less success) but its definately doable, and what i was describing if you knew how to read is clearing 1 or 2 cows if monk is dead not clear uw alone, nooblet. graspings are way easier to kill than cows though often 2 at a time. my build would also own your assasin skill set described, you wouldnt stand a chance if we were 2 remaining people in opposing teams, i also have glad rank and my build is so strong against meelee 1 on 1 that i dont even need an elite to kill you, gg.

Why do people never admit to defeat?

I have news for you. Your build does not negate damage that grasping darknesses will do to you. You have no blocking skills aside from riposte and deadly, which I remind you that you need adrenaline and energy to activate.

You gain adrenaline too slow if you are not attacking in melee. If you are attacking in melee, you're sacrificing the vital energy you need to make up for their constant "Fear me" use and your own energy drain from spamming BotA and VG to no avail. And if you Use SS, then your energy is screwed and you die. You still do not do enough damage.

And no, I do not want to come to ToA and watch you die. I have much better things to do.

Post a link to a video showing you defeating ONE bladed Attxe and ONE mob of grasping darknesses on your build, but don't waste my character's time.

Renegade26 · Aug 16, 2007, 10:24 PM // 22:24

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Originally Posted by populationcontrol

lol yes you have i guarantee you have been rejected from fow groups, dude they reject eles that arent ele/mes sometimes, same with necros. your class is like alien and like not even considered half the time. its actually quite funny.

and yes i can show you how to kill a cow alone, even two (with less success) but its definately doable, and what i was describing if you knew how to read is clearing 1 or 2 cows if monk is dead not clear uw alone, nooblet. graspings are way easier to kill than cows though often 2 at a time. my build would also own your assasin skill set described, you wouldnt stand a chance if we were 2 remaining people in opposing teams, i also have glad rank and my build is so strong against meelee 1 on 1 that i dont even need an elite to kill you, gg.

OK DUDE, YOU WANT FACTS ABOUT ME, AND HOW IM NOT A NOOBLET?

Easily done. Ive collected 71 shards from Normal 8 man Forgmaster teams, ive done it so much. Ive collected 66 ectos from 2 man UW farms. I know what im talking about.

Im glad rank 3, and I would pwn your build if i wanted to. Even with an Assassin when your whole bar is devoted to deal with me I would wipe you without healing. Of course you could beat me if I sucked like an AI 1v1, too bad this isnt some shitty game, this game takes skill. Just piss off tbh, your embarassing yourself.

populationcontrol · Aug 16, 2007, 10:31 PM // 22:31

the mob of graps is around monk hence u can survive 1 or two fear mes, ive done it remember?

as to the nooblet assasin the activities described are time consuming not skill related and im willing to duel your mentioned "pro build" and ill post a screen of your dead character in this thread to prove my unconventional builds are better than narrow minded people.

also just because i can do what you cant doesnt make me an idiot, it just makes me better than you

You can't see me · Aug 16, 2007, 10:34 PM // 22:34

You implied that you soloed the grasps and attaxes. You even said that it's better if the monk dies.

You keep jumping around and changing your story to cover yourself. Serisously, it's getting old.

And lying does not make you better. It makes you inferior.

populationcontrol · Aug 16, 2007, 10:38 PM // 22:38

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

You implied that you soloed the grasps and attaxes. You even said that it's better if the monk dies.

You keep jumping around and changing your story to cover yourself. Serisously, it's getting old.

And lying does not make you better. It makes you inferior.

no i said if monk dies you can clear cows, and that grasps are easier to kill than cows, by your own standards you must think of urself as inferior

You can't see me · Aug 16, 2007, 10:47 PM // 22:47

And we've already proven why your build cannot solo cows. Go read the above posts. I'm not laying it out again for you.

Grasps are easy on any build with SS and even one or two attributes in curses. You're not special for doing that.

Plus on that build you can't clear the UW anyway. Smite Crawlers will smite your hex like no tomorrow, and your other two skills don't do enough damage for this to be efficient.

That's why no monks want you -.-

And your last part isn't even said right. You should have worded it "If you consider lying inferior, than you must think of yourself as inferior."

I'm not even going to go on about this. Just piss off dude, you're seriously pathetic.

Dr Strangelove · Aug 16, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56

For a long time, I thought populationcontrol was completely serious, just very, very stupid and stubborn. This thread has blown that out of the water. There is no possible way anyone could be this dumb and still remember to breathe. The last few pages have gone beyond any rational human being's responses, into a game of make fun of the idiot. I just can't believe it anymore.

Bravo on an excellent troll, population, bravo.

populationcontrol · Aug 16, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56

actually i can clear uw on a dialy basis but i think its boring and yes i can solo 1-2 cows (can even show you how but "your too busy") and monks never had a problem with my uw strategy... sorry to burst your bubble yet again. smites do break hexes (very perceptive of you!) and you just deal with it. and no i meant what i actaully said by your own standards you are inferior.

id like to point out that the assasin never took me on on the duel even though he could "pwn" this my first build. also it was you peopel who drove this thing off topic refusing to post the unconventional builds you use but insisting on critisizimg the one i posted to encourage others to do so.

yeah i just looked up "trolling" and as far as im concerned its the people critizing my build who have posted hateful and offensive remarks, i posted my views on a situation and what id liked to play as versus what people insisted i had to be. i know what people want me to play as, i can play as what people want me to play as but i dont want to play what people insist i play as because i am free to play as whatever i want, and i assure you ive never been kicked because i predict your identical reaction to all my unconventional strategies. so rest assured your prejudice will not limit my freedom in playing the game

You can't see me · Aug 16, 2007, 11:12 PM // 23:12

As I said, make a video and post the link.

And I did not say they do not break hexes. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you need to learn to read. They will Smite Hexes like no tomorrow. (Aka, remove them, break them, etc.) For this reason, SS does not work without AV and SV on the monk. Therefore, you cannot do enough damage for this to be efficient.

And about soloing cows, lying dead and draining them to 3/4s health doesn't count.

Our necromancer tested this theory. He has 60 energy, your bar and attributes, and 630 health w/ full max armor. He was weilding Modti's Depredation.

Here's what happens when we tried soloing cows on your build, using your strategy.

Our necromancer kited them to the ghost and cast SS/BotA/VG on them. As SS did nothing, it drained his energy. He regened, and tried again using only BotA and and VG. He eventually ran out of energy and did not even make a dent in thier regenning health. By the time he got one off with his energy, they had already regenned from the other. Impossible.

As for the Smite Crawlers.

Using VG and BotA on them will kill them very slowly. A whole mob them would take forever to kill using only this method. As you state that you do not have AV and SV in your bar, SS does not work on them due to thier use of smite hex.

As for Grasping Darknesses

While the monk keeps them occupied, anyone with SS on their bar can do that, however, on that build, you cannot solo them as in one of your replies you claim to be able to do. Here's what happens when you try:

Riposte and Deadly riposte do not negate any damage. Your spells and Fear me drain your energy to an immidiate nothing and you die. Very simple.

And by my standards, liars, like you, are inferior. I have no very clearly laid out for you the test results of all your claims. Deny them, and you deny pure fact. They all use the exact strategies you claim to use on the exact bar and attributes you claim to run. I and my friends have tested many builds and this one in conclusion does not work.

We also tested your build in FoW. The monks complained of having a hard time healing you from lack of BR, and since you ran up and negated little damage with your soft armor.

Without their healing, your build resulted in death when you ran up to any mob in FoW.

There's nothing left for you to say, but more bull exrecrement. This is proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that your claims are false. I'm not going to reply to this thread any more, as all of the replies you come up with never cease to haul in more loads of bull excrement.

You have nothing left. You have royally embrassed yourself by denying fact and lying over and over. You have proven yourself a liar, a noob, and your over all patheticy on all your replies.

Narrowmindedness is not implied by people not letting you in while running builds that are proven not to work.

Read my avatar. It's the sole answer you ask for when you reply.

Good day, sir.