Curse

cthulhu reborn · Aug 29, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by 828168

People, wake up already... Kurzick/Luxon title isn't needed for any armor. It's all optional which impacts nothing within the game except for your awesome title and at best give you slight improvements in your Luxon/Kurzick pve skill. But then again, the Norn title gives you slight improvements if you're wearing it. Your max HP goes up. Remind me again what you are grinding for in that Kurzick/Luxon title. I forgot the armor that I am trying to grind for while doing AB.

Well doh....of course I know you don't need it to get Kurzick/Luxon armour. But as you obviously missed the point I will explain it again. It's about the difference of account based and character based and what you have to do to raise the title.
56k is not that much 10 million is.
Personally I think you should need a certain level of allegiance to get Kurzick or Luxon armour but that's another point.
But it is not desirable in my view to have another game that you can rush through in a couple of days and have nothing left to do.
And to get the norn reputation at 56k will not take months either. People just overreact to this.
There are people that got to it in the same weekend for crying out loud. No, I feel that it is good that you need to do something for it and at 56k I think it's not too much at all. No elite armour should be available at day one by just walking over to the town. That would make elite armour pointless.

828168 · Aug 29, 2007, 11:59 PM // 23:59

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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn

But it is not desirable in my view to have another game that you can rush through in a couple of days and have nothing left to do.
And to get the norn reputation at 56k will not take months either. People just overreact to this.
There are people that got to it in the same weekend for crying out loud. No, I feel that it is good that you need to do something for it and at 56k I think it's not too much at all. No elite armour should be available at day one by just walking over to the town. That would make elite armour pointless.

Let's leave the comparison of Factions allegiance point out of it. Sure it's a lot, but if you must compare it, why not bring in Heroes 100k, Champion (GVG) 10k, and Gladiator 10k comparison as well. These are more toward PVP instead of PVE so in reality they are not to be compared. There is a difference between taking on real humans than pre-programmed grinding bait. Just use better comparisons like lightbringer and sunspear ranks instead. But in the case of sunspear and lightbringer, they are not needed to show you the armor or make it available for purchase.

As for people who got it the same weekend... Yes, some people enjoy mindless grinding. I applaud these people who has the patience who can sit through the boredom. And there are some people who may have a life instead of just repeatedly beating the same monsters or repeating the same quests again and again. After doing most quests 1 time, I don't remember seeing myself over 10k points without having to do some mindless grinding where my heroes are good at while I'm busy "getting pissed and cracking jokes about this to friends in game". What makes the armor elite? Who can tolerate the boredom and can waste few hours repeating quests or grinding the same spots numerous times?

And I agree that the armor shouldn't be available to you just because you get over to the town. It should be available to you if and when you completed the game and do most if not all the quests for the race which doesn't include you having to repeat the same process over and over. Playing the game through should be good enough. Again, we know why the grinding was placed into this game. Not because they want you to work on anything, it's because they lack enough content and perhaps needed a way to tie you into this game while GW2 is being worked on. Just as all these previous weekend bonuses was to keep you from getting bored of the game. But truth be heard. If everyone have many characters that will be repeating the same grinds to get something, I'm sure there's going to be enough people bored and just sick of the way how the game's direction is heading. Let's just hope that by the end of the game, the quests and missions including the end will give you enough points to get any armor of your choice without attending "GRINDFEST" school of ANET.

Ritualistof the Mists · Aug 30, 2007, 12:17 AM // 00:17

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Originally Posted by Vl Vl D

Rit of mists got pwnd.What would you like? to rush past the game then complain that GW2 is to far away and how you can become a beta tester.

I got pwnd? how is that it seems that most people here are saying they should atleast lower the rank needed. Also like i stated before we dont want it easy not title track lvl 1 but atleast lvl4 title, and maybe extra stuff for higher titles for the ones of you that play for 10hrs.

emmarockfan · Aug 30, 2007, 01:27 AM // 01:27

What i think the norn title to get armor should like he said lower it to rank 4. Getting points for kurz/lux is not hard takes me about 3 hours just to get up there. I think its kinda boring doing for example Curse of the norn Bear over and over again just to get 500 rep points each. Maybee im taking this to much out of Proportion. Couse ya Guild Wars Eye of the North dont come out till this friday and the book u can get from the Tyr the Skaald probaly gives u more rep. So i will probaly just wait for it to come out officaly before i take this to far out of Proportion. I just think for right now it should be lowerd.

Redfeather1975 · Aug 30, 2007, 02:04 AM // 02:04

I am kind of hoping Anet doesn't change the mechanics of titles now.
I'm quite curious as to what the player and critics reviews will be of GW now with this noticeable lean towards relying on time sinks.
I really want to see what happens to the franchise from all this.
Good reviews or bad I'm pretty sure this expansion's feedback from players and critics alike will quickly decide GW's fate.

Uber Mass · Aug 30, 2007, 07:25 AM // 07:25

dont change it please let people work for their armor like all the other campaigns....

In tyria (elite armors) are more in the end of the game (tho you can be ran there =/)

In cantha (elite armos) are more in the end and you need to do a bit of faction farming

In elona (elite armors) are in the end of the game

Here the armorpeoples are in the beginnings! so yus a bit of work is needed before you can actually talk to them.

you can reach rank5 just by doing questing and a bit of clearing areas. So what does every1 want straight rushing to armors so one of the main goals is cleared in the beginning allready? I've never NEVER read someone wants to lower the requirments in Ecto for FoW armor before also... So earn your title get your armor and be happy you made it and put some effort in it...

Anyways this is getting on my nerves now.... people wanting everything to be thrown in their lap allready...

828168 · Aug 31, 2007, 07:22 AM // 07:22

Great news for those who are casual players and ain't into time wasting! Minor grinding needed, but nothing to the extreme. Requirements for Armor is now "Slayer of Wurms" which is 26,000. Rank 5!

Traveller · Aug 31, 2007, 07:40 AM // 07:40

This is a good solution. Some effort needed but not staggering. A good compromise, IMO.

nimloth32 · Aug 31, 2007, 08:55 AM // 08:55

i think that from doing quests and playing mini games, you should be able to achieve the requirement in a short time.

Although i am not interested in getting a new armour for my chars (since i am dead broke in game atm), i still hope that anet can lower the requirement to get a new armour..

In addition, i hope that GW2 will be a more polished game than GW1 is, after the mistakes which anet learned (hopefully) from GW1..

828168 · Aug 31, 2007, 10:02 AM // 10:02

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Originally Posted by nimloth32

i think that from doing quests and playing mini games, you should be able to achieve the requirement in a short time.

Although i am not interested in getting a new armour for my chars (since i am dead broke in game atm), i still hope that anet can lower the requirement to get a new armour..

In addition, i hope that GW2 will be a more polished game than GW1 is, after the mistakes which anet learned (hopefully) from GW1..

No need to hope, the requirements for new armor appears to have been lowered across the board from what I've noticed after mapping to the 2 armor places I got access to. So, it's a good compromise...

Etta · Aug 31, 2007, 10:08 AM // 10:08

Yeah that's a good new. R5 is not that long to get.

RockmanXX · Aug 31, 2007, 10:55 AM // 10:55

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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn

Well doh....of course I know you don't need it to get Kurzick/Luxon armour. But as you obviously missed the point I will explain it again. It's about the difference of account based and character based and what you have to do to raise the title.
56k is not that much 10 million is.
Personally I think you should need a certain level of allegiance to get Kurzick or Luxon armour but that's another point.
But it is not desirable in my view to have another game that you can rush through in a couple of days and have nothing left to do.
And to get the norn reputation at 56k will not take months either. People just overreact to this.
There are people that got to it in the same weekend for crying out loud. No, I feel that it is good that you need to do something for it and at 56k I think it's not too much at all. No elite armour should be available at day one by just walking over to the town. That would make elite armour pointless.

ya i agree with you. Seems some for you guys still don't really understand. let's explain it this way...
for people who think those title should be account base, let me tell you why it shouldn't:
Since faction point need 10,000,000 points, so do you know how many "56k" you need to get?
10,000,000/ 56,000 = 17.xxxxxxxx
you need 17 of 56k point to get your 10,000,000 points
that is really hard, so it should be account base......
if most of the title go into account base, that mean those title also require a lot of "56k"s to make them into a account base title, otherwise is too easy to get one max title across your characters.

sorry for my bad english but actaully what i trying to say is, for a account base title, they need a very huge requirement inorder to set the title as account base. that's all.....XD
"hope you guys understand lol"