Curse

RSGashapon · Sep 02, 2007, 01:11 AM // 01:11

Chaos Gauntlets. Seventy-five Ecto? Ridiculous!

How can this cost be rationalized? A full set of Obsidian armor requires a hundred and five Ecto minimum, with some requiring a hundred and twenty. For a pair of these gloves, and that is all they are basically, you need seventy-five?!

Fifteen I could understand, maybe even twenty, but not seventy-five. Fifteen would put them on par with FoW armor. But no pair of gloves, no matter how fancy looking they may be, is worth as much as seventy-five.

And Glacial Gauntlets... weren't they just thirty-five Glacial Stones during the preview? Fifty might be acceptable, but one hundred is not. I don't want to even see the absurd amounts of collector junk and materials we'll need to get for a pair of Dragon or Destroyer Gauntlets. Blindfolds require 50 Chalices, while Dredge Masks require only 25 Relics.

Wait a minute... a piece of cloth around your eyes is supposedly worth more, in time value if not gold value, than a full-head mask? I fail to see the logic, do enlighten me if you so feel the need.

This prestige armor stuff is really getting out of hand, no pun intended. The titles necessary to unlock this stuff aren't grinders in and of themselves, but for some, they don't help alleviate the situation.

Guild Wars has become Grind Wars, despite all the commentary on the contrary. Things like these are perfect evidence of it.

People are going to get these items eventually, so why can't the material and collector requirements be lowered a little? Don't make them wait so long, even if it means they won't be as "elite" or "prestigious" as certain people would like them.

Exoudeous · Sep 02, 2007, 01:15 AM // 01:15

the whole point is to have more gold syncs, the prices of the items are fine the way they are, if you dont like them, GOOD NEWS you dont have to get them.

lyra_song · Sep 02, 2007, 01:18 AM // 01:18

do you need prestige armor?

no.

therefore the grind is your choice

Darkpower Alchemist · Sep 02, 2007, 01:18 AM // 01:18

What else is there to do between now and GW2? Grind for a title, while collecting these little stones? The ecto intense gloves are truely ridiculous, yet the others may be easier to come by...maybe.

Kalidon · Sep 02, 2007, 01:19 AM // 01:19

250 destroyer cores for a pair of destroyer gloves...

Thanks god they're so beatiful that they deserve every single bead of sweat.

RSGashapon · Sep 02, 2007, 01:30 AM // 01:30

Gold Sinks or Loot Scaling... one or the other, you can't have both.

You don't drill a hole into the bottom of a leaky boat to drain the water.

-Loki- · Sep 02, 2007, 02:14 AM // 02:14

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Originally Posted by RSGashapon

Gold Sinks or Loot Scaling... one or the other, you can't have both.

They can have both and they do have both. The grind argument is also ridiculous. These are completely unneeded. Their sole purpose is as an optional money sink. You don't need them, you aren't being forced to get them.

Snow Weasel · Sep 02, 2007, 02:32 AM // 02:32

They look crap anyway.

The Last Windseeker · Sep 02, 2007, 02:41 AM // 02:41

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Originally Posted by RSGashapon

Guild Wars has become Grind Wars, despite all the commentary on the contrary. Things like these are perfect evidence of it.

I would have to agree. Guild Wars is just starting to turn into title and collectible drop grind, which I believe is a horrible way for a wonderful game to turn. They first made this game to be one for casual and hardcore gamers alike, but it seems as more time passes it is just becoming a grind fest for the people who have the free time to grind for everything worthwhile in the game.

Yes, armor is optional, but starting to make all armor such a grind to get is absurd.

Rikimaru · Sep 02, 2007, 03:48 AM // 03:48

"You don't need to grind for them"? That is the most jackass argument ever, and people still use it all the time on here.

Hey, let's make all characters start out as two-dimensional stick figures, and force people to grind for 100+ hours to gain access to the npc that will allow you to start grinding for the materials you need for him to transform your character in to a three-dimensional human! I mean, you don't "need" to look like that!

Just because you don't need it, that doesn't mean they should force you to grind like hell for it. I do agree that they should be hard to get, but the costs on these are so high, only hardcore farmers will ever get them.

Neo Nugget · Sep 02, 2007, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Im fine with the other universal armor pieces and theyre req to get them.

But seriously, 75 ecto?/impale.

I want them, but ill pass...thanks

GloryFox · Sep 02, 2007, 04:22 AM // 04:22

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Guild Wars has become Grind Wars, despite all the commentary on the contrary. Things like these are perfect evidence of it.

QFT!

Sorry ANET once again you fail because of Grind. I'm glad this is the last GW1, I'm sick of the grind.

Andisa Kalorn · Sep 02, 2007, 04:26 AM // 04:26

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Originally Posted by Neo Nugget

Im fine with the other universal armor pieces and theyre req to get them.

But seriously, 75 ecto?/impale.

I want them, but ill pass...thanks

Actually I think the 75 ecto price is decent. They're a shiny prestige item, like a torment weapon. I could afford it but I think they look silly.

I'm more annoyed by the items that require tons of collectible drops. While ectos are exempt from loot scaling, collectible drops aren't. You also can't buy them from a trader so either you have to farm them yourself or spend a lot of time trying to buy them. It just seems like too much of a hassle.

Friar Khan · Sep 02, 2007, 04:42 AM // 04:42

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Originally Posted by RSGashapon

Gold Sinks or Loot Scaling... one or the other, you can't have both.

You don't drill a hole into the bottom of a leaky boat to drain the water.

Great analogy!

But still they're optional. Personally, I was expecting to get a set of Chaos gloves for a few of my characters after I saw the leaked images of them. But then when I saw their ecto cost I lost all my interest in them--because they're optional.

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Originally Posted by Rikimaru

Just because you don't need it, that doesn't mean they should force you to grind like hell for it.

Yeah, why do they force us to get this optional armor! lol Joking aside, I know what you're trying to say. Nonetheless, the fact remains that you don't need them. If you don't want them enough to work towards getting them, then the performance of your character won't suffer for it.

In conclusion: The new armor is optional. Did I mention that you don't need them? That's because they're optional. I understand that it's frustrating to want something that you can't have, or is hard to get. But I suggest you try to put your focus on the things you can enjoy about the game now that you've gotten a chance to vent your frustrations.

Malice Black · Sep 02, 2007, 04:59 AM // 04:59

They are just a gimmick aimed at those that can afford to buy, if you can't afford, tough.

Not everything should be cheap. They have to cater for the small percentage of people that like to farm/trade etc as well. This was suppose to be a game about diversity after all.

Dr Strangelove · Sep 02, 2007, 05:12 AM // 05:12

It's a gold sink for people with more money than they know what to do with. For me, at least, Guild Wars has never been grind because I choose not to. There's a crapload of content out there that has nothing to do with farming, I suggest you try it.

HawkofStorms · Sep 02, 2007, 05:44 AM // 05:44

Are you kidding Strangelove? GW:EN has like no content other then the grind.

Although I understand the price of chaos gloves, I agree that the price of blindfolds make NO SENSE! Why would I want my character to wear a duderag away? This isn't GTA.

Roshi_ikkyu · Sep 02, 2007, 05:55 AM // 05:55

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Originally Posted by RSGashapon

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Wait a minute... a piece of cloth around your eyes is supposedly worth more, in time value if not gold value, than a full-head mask? I fail to see the logic, do enlighten me if you so feel the need.

LoL its a game it has no bearing on logic

Jongo River · Sep 02, 2007, 05:55 AM // 05:55

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Originally Posted by RSGashapon

And Glacial Gauntlets... weren't they just thirty-five Glacial Stones during the preview? Fifty might be acceptable, but one hundred is not.

That's really disappointing, I hadn't realised they'd increased the cost. Hell, I cringed at 35, but figured I'd get them eventually. I guess I'll stop wasting space on collector items, because I'm never going to have that many from "normal" play (I only have a couple now and I kill every Vaettir group I encounter).

This aspect of GW:EN is awful. I'm distracted by quests and dungeons (which are great) at the moment, but if Anet think I'll be sticking around to farm glacial stones afterwards - not ruddy likely!

I wasn't interested in chaos gauntlets anyway, but 25e is about the price I wouldn't laugh too hard at.

Oh, and I'm *really* tired of the prestige arguments - everyone wants customization options, not just the elite.

Dr Strangelove · Sep 02, 2007, 05:59 AM // 05:59

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Are you kidding Strangelove? GW:EN has like no content other then the grind.

Although I understand the price of chaos gloves, I agree that the price of blindfolds make NO SENSE! Why would I want my character to wear a duderag away? This isn't GTA.

Dungeons? Missions? You want to grind for stuff, that's your problem, don't complain.