Curse

freekedoutfish · Sep 03, 2007, 09:24 AM // 09:24

Amazingly people are still winging about needing rank 5 to unlock armor, weapons and consumables. I personally think anyone who thinks like that is just lazey.

But what people dont seem to realise is the problem isnt that you need rank 5, the problem is that certain reputation points are harder to earn then others.

The Norn points are very easy to earn with the bounties, quests and dungeons. I cant comment on the Asura or Drawf yet because I only played the preview event, as my GWEN hasnt arrived yet.

But im constantly hearing how the vanguard points are too hard to earn due to a lack of quests and decent bounties.

The way to resolve this dislike of needing rank 5, isnt to remove that requirement. The way to solver this problem is to add more quests, and better bounties to allow people to earn the points easier!

Now the problem with this, is that GWEN is a very, very small expansion and it has limited explorable areas to play with! So adding more quests and bounties will be hard.

Anet would need to add more explorable areas to add more quests and maybe more dungeons! Thats just my view anyway!

We dont need the rank 5 requirement removed, we need more ways to earn those reputation points.

Anet add more, or add Hard Mode and allow us to earn higher bounties in the same fashion as LB and SS points.

Etta · Sep 03, 2007, 09:34 AM // 09:34

I don't like grinding for the armor, but so far I have 15k+ for norm, 4k+ for the dwarf and 3k+ for the ebon vanguard and I didn't even start grinding yet. All those points I got just from playing normally and take the bounties when I can.

Some of the quest that give you lot of factions points can be re-do as well and you still get the reward after. Going underground can give you load of points as well, just don't forget to take the bounty.

But yeah grinding for the crafters is a bit stupid, anything that make it easier for most people would be nice imo.

freekedoutfish · Sep 03, 2007, 09:44 AM // 09:44

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Originally Posted by Etta

I don't like grinding for the armor, but so far I have 15k+ for norm, 4k+ for the dwarf and 3k+ for the ebon vanguard and I didn't even start grinding yet. All those points I got just from playing normally and take the bounties when I can.

Some of the quest that give you lot of factions points can be re-do as well and you still get the reward after. Going underground can give you load of points as well, just don't forget to take the bounty.

But yeah grinding for the crafters is a bit stupid, anything that make it easier for most people would be nice imo.

Trust me, your preaching to the choir! I got myself to rank 7 Norn on the preview event, so I know how easy it is to earn reputation points.

But im just sick of others winging about the "grind" factor to get armor. I think their just being lazey myself, but I figure they need to get some perspective.

Its not that needing rank 5 is a bad thing, its earning those points and getting to rank 5. Norn is EASY, and im sure Asura and Drawf are too.

But so many people have said that Vangaurd have very few quests and bounties to earn points on. So I figure to shut them up and make them happy, ask Anet to add easier/bette ways to earn those points.

But they also have a point if there isnt many vanguard quests, then its unfair if certain races are easier to increase rank in then others. Plus the armors arent anything graet, so..

Sheik90 · Sep 03, 2007, 10:07 AM // 10:07

this is probably the easiest way to get the 26k points for Ebon Vanguard

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Originally Posted by Seissor

Doomlore, go south towards the open field, AVOID rocktail, but hijack the siege devourer, Grant Theft Devourer style, then cruise around the map in the siege devourer with the hench/hero and bomb your way to high scores.

took me 9h to get r5 :3

seut · Sep 03, 2007, 10:38 AM // 10:38

The rank5 requirement is pretty annoying for players who play multiple professions, but i realise that there'll be close to zero new content until GW2 and Anet needs to keep us occupied.
Ebon Vanguard points are hardest to come by, because there are only 3 explorables in that area. Cruising around with the siege devourer gets boring fast. Getting to 200kills sometimes without any random effect or shrine giving a hunt upgrade is stupid. Hunt upgrade probability should be increased!
I already finished the storyline and after that, you can trade in your completed Hero's Handbook for measly 2500points. This amount needs to be increased drastically!

Titch2011 · Sep 03, 2007, 10:40 AM // 10:40

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Originally Posted by Sheik90

this is probably the easiest way to get the 26k points for Ebon Vanguard

took me 9h to get r5 :3

wow im definetly trying this =D

murtagh deadmoon · Sep 03, 2007, 11:57 AM // 11:57

Definately not hard to get, i got rank 5 in a very short amount of time. Don't make it easier A-net.

Kris · Sep 03, 2007, 12:10 PM // 12:10

I was the first (at least according to wiki) to get Azura armor (end of first day) - and Azura are the worst to grind for. There are no repeatable quests, and nothing like a siege devourer to use - its all old fashioned grind using the bounties.

Once I got to rank 6, it became more a case of boring myself to death to get to Rank 7 than actually enjoying anything. But heyho, maybe I'm missing out on a repeatable somewhere?

kielus · Sep 03, 2007, 12:20 PM // 12:20

Dwarf is by far the easiest to grind ~1,5k per 10-15 minutes? that's even better than nornbear grind + you get winter items (i'm talking about Snowmen dungeon). I wanted myself to get fancy pimped summon skills but these are lvl 20 at r10. and since the polymock quest give a nice start, later it's hell. (maybe not as pain as vanguard, but still worse than norn/dwarf).

i agree, the amounts required aren't bad, it's the ways to get these amounts.

Cymmina · Sep 03, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34

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Originally Posted by murtagh deadmoon

Definately not hard to get, i got rank 5 in a very short amount of time. Don't make it easier A-net.

Who said anything about being hard? It's boring as hell. I don't know how hard the others are, but Vanguard is horrible. I'm out of quests. Not that they were worth doing because I can easily rack up 1k points on the way to do a 50-150 point quest (yes, getting the assassin hero only gave 50 points). At least they were entertaining quests (especially Vael's). Now that I'm out of quests, I don't even have that entertainment value at the end of a long, boring point run.

The hunt bonuses suck. Plain and simple. I've gone through an entire zone with only the rampage bonus, that's a measly +2 per kill. The highest rank of Sunspear and Lightbringer is 50,000 points and you can get +7 points per kill in HM with boss bonuses ALL THE TIME, guaranteed. The highest rank for EotN reputation titles is 200,000 points and if you're lucky you might get the level 4 hunt (+4 per kill) and the rampage bonus (2x points). By the time that happens to me, I've essentially painted myself in a corner and there's nothing close enough to make it worth doing because the rampage bonus will wear off. I've only seen the boss kill bonus 3 times (+200 points), but you can't always be sure you're close enough to a boss and able to kill it in 5 minutes.

I almost never see the +2 hunt before I get 50 kills, and have never seen a +4 hunt with less than 100 kills.

And for the record, Sacnoth Valley is better than Dalada Uplands because the mobs are *way* easier and more densely packed. Yes, the siege devourer can go into the next zone.

mikez himself · Sep 03, 2007, 12:48 PM // 12:48

the title says it all, 100% agree that there needs to be more 'fun' ways (or generally more ways so you can alternate between if grinding) to aquire reputation points

Phantom Gun · Sep 03, 2007, 02:52 PM // 14:52

Yeah I agree. I was kind of worried about which title to grind until I saw the armors. Now I wish I would of known lol. Anyway i'm kind of the opposite of some people. I found the asura title is real easy because there are plenty of quests to keep you going along the way. I'm like 3k from r5 right now, but found out I don't like the armor that much. So now i'm grinding norn, which I seem to be having some trouble with since I can't find many quests to help me out.

They also fixed the nornbear quest so I can't do that, and the lake is nice points, but it takes a long time before I start feeling like i'm making progress. So I agree that if they had more ways to work on these I would be happy. 26,000 is highly doable, but it can be a yawn fest getting there especialy once you don't have anymore quests.

Tyras · Sep 03, 2007, 06:36 PM // 18:36

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Originally Posted by Kris

I was the first (at least according to wiki) to get Azura armor (end of first day) - and Azura are the worst to grind for. There are no repeatable quests, and nothing like a siege devourer to use - its all old fashioned grind using the bounties.

Once I got to rank 6, it became more a case of boring myself to death to get to Rank 7 than actually enjoying anything. But heyho, maybe I'm missing out on a repeatable somewhere?

1. you didn't need to get to r7.
2. the same goes for Ebon Vanguard, no repeatable quests.
3. Azura have 3 more explorable areas then Vanguard.
4. Azura have more quests then Vanguard.
5. Azura have a mini game that can get you points.

Ahiko · Sep 03, 2007, 07:00 PM // 19:00

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Originally Posted by kielus

Dwarf is by far the easiest to grind ~1,5k per 10-15 minutes? that's even better than nornbear grind + you get winter items (i'm talking about Snowmen dungeon). I wanted myself to get fancy pimped summon skills but these are lvl 20 at r10. and since the polymock quest give a nice start, later it's hell. (maybe not as pain as vanguard, but still worse than norn/dwarf).

i agree, the amounts required aren't bad, it's the ways to get these amounts.

Where do you go to grind there? Sepulcher of Dragrammir?

Series · Sep 03, 2007, 07:18 PM // 19:18

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=1#post3106636

I'm way ahead of you fish!

</shameless thread plug>

Blkout · Sep 03, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Amazingly people are still winging about needing rank 5 to unlock armor, weapons and consumables. I personally think anyone who thinks like that is just lazey.

But what people dont seem to realise is the problem isnt that you need rank 5, the problem is that certain reputation points are harder to earn then others.

The Norn points are very easy to earn with the bounties, quests and dungeons. I cant comment on the Asura or Drawf yet because I only played the preview event, as my GWEN hasnt arrived yet.

But im constantly hearing how the vanguard points are too hard to earn due to a lack of quests and decent bounties.

The way to resolve this dislike of needing rank 5, isnt to remove that requirement. The way to solver this problem is to add more quests, and better bounties to allow people to earn the points easier!

Now the problem with this, is that GWEN is a very, very small expansion and it has limited explorable areas to play with! So adding more quests and bounties will be hard.

Anet would need to add more explorable areas to add more quests and maybe more dungeons! Thats just my view anyway!

We dont need the rank 5 requirement removed, we need more ways to earn those reputation points.

Anet add more, or add Hard Mode and allow us to earn higher bounties in the same fashion as LB and SS points.

Not lazy, we just have a life outside of GW. Try real life sometime, its much tougher than GW.

Blkout · Sep 03, 2007, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

But im just sick of others winging about the "grind" factor to get armor. I think their just being lazey myself, but I figure they need to get some perspective.

I assume you mean "whining", not "winging". The word "lazy" has no "e" in it. Seeing as how you misspelled both words incorrectly in two different posts, I can only assume you don't know how to spell them correctly. So there you go; you learn something new everyday.

Blkout · Sep 03, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46

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Originally Posted by Cymmina

Who said anything about being hard? It's boring as hell. I don't know how hard the others are, but Vanguard is horrible. I'm out of quests. Not that they were worth doing because I can easily rack up 1k points on the way to do a 50-150 point quest (yes, getting the assassin hero only gave 50 points). At least they were entertaining quests (especially Vael's). Now that I'm out of quests, I don't even have that entertainment value at the end of a long, boring point run.

The hunt bonuses suck. Plain and simple. I've gone through an entire zone with only the rampage bonus, that's a measly +2 per kill. The highest rank of Sunspear and Lightbringer is 50,000 points and you can get +7 points per kill in HM with boss bonuses ALL THE TIME, guaranteed. The highest rank for EotN reputation titles is 200,000 points and if you're lucky you might get the level 4 hunt (+4 per kill) and the rampage bonus (2x points). By the time that happens to me, I've essentially painted myself in a corner and there's nothing close enough to make it worth doing because the rampage bonus will wear off. I've only seen the boss kill bonus 3 times (+200 points), but you can't always be sure you're close enough to a boss and able to kill it in 5 minutes.

I almost never see the +2 hunt before I get 50 kills, and have never seen a +4 hunt with less than 100 kills.

And for the record, Sacnoth Valley is better than Dalada Uplands because the mobs are *way* easier and more densely packed. Yes, the siege devourer can go into the next zone.

Excellent comparison to Nightfall which in my opinion was done MUCH better in regards to the points system. It really appears that Anet wanted this expansion to SEEM longer than it really is by forcing you to play longer. That was not smart thinking on their part at all.

kielus · Sep 03, 2007, 07:47 PM // 19:47

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Where do you go to grind there? Sepulcher of Dragrammir?

no, secret lair of the snowmen, from koris deeprunner in umbral grotto

Death By Ketchup · Sep 03, 2007, 07:54 PM // 19:54

I don't mind that you need to get to rank 5, its just that I would like to have a way to get reputation points a fun way.I think they should have added quests to get the 26k rep points, then if you want to grind past R5 then go out and kill everything.

Grinding outside doomlore shrine gets boring fast. I bought this game to have fun, not be bored.