Curse

Concerned Guildy · Sep 02, 2007, 11:32 PM // 23:32

I have been playing Guild Wars for almost as long as it has been out. I own any and everything that NCSoft has allowed people to buy that involves Guild Wars, so I like the game a lot. I expected a lot out of this game but I feel that it fell short. First of all, the big seller for this game was going to be new armor, weapons, and bridging the gap between GW 1 and GW 2. The story line is nice and enjoyable. I feel that Guild Wars turned out great for that. My complaints come with the armor, weapons, and titles.
The armor is a big loss. There is not much new about it. Most of the armor looks like other armors. You have to play for a very long time before you are allowed to buy it and then the fact that it costs so much, you have to save everything you get and that within itself will take a long time since earning money in Guild Wars takes so long.
The weapons are nice so far, a lot of them use skins from previous campaigns but there are a few new ones.
The titles are fun but not worth earning except for the armor which more and more people are complaining about as they get the capability to purchase it. The titles that you earn are only usable in the area they are earned in. An example: Earning the Norn title only helps and benefits one that uses the Norn title in the Norn lands. If you leave the lands to say... anywhere, the blessing from the title is no longer allowed. My problem with this is that this game does not benefit any of the other campaigns much. I thought that it would be beneficial to benefit the players that all ready play the game by offering blessings or skills that can be used outside of Eye of the North.
The skills earned are usable, but just as the other PvE only skills; they are short lived and easily forgotten. There is not much need to have PvE only skills if people won't even use them in PvE because the skills are more of a wasted slot than a benefit to the game.
I have heard from some players that GW should not make the game have capabilities to be easier because it might then be too easy and become boring. Well, I thought that was why Hard Mode was intoduced so that players that thought GW was too easy for them would have more of a difficult time playing?
All in all, GWEN turned out to be a nice expansion to teach us all about the story line. The problem is that the "special features and new material" turned out to not be very impressive. I feel that GW has let a lot of people down in that way and I do not believe that GWEN will be as remembered as Prophecies or Nightfall.

tangtong · Sep 02, 2007, 11:50 PM // 23:50

Ah shut up and just go on a threat that is already made please

blueone · Sep 03, 2007, 12:01 AM // 00:01

I just can't believe the amount of people complaining over how the freaking armour looks. Who gives a crap? Except for the vain, of course.

Floski · Sep 03, 2007, 12:08 AM // 00:08

Prepare for flames from fanboys who have nothing but "if you don't like it don't play it" forgetting that you paid $40+ for it. Anet screws up. I know it's amazing, but the fanboys have to get over the fact that the game isn't perfect and plenty of people have tons of legit complaints.

wolfwing · Sep 03, 2007, 12:13 AM // 00:13

The armour complaints are valid...I think many would like some really nice armour to showcase their chars with.

Gigashadow · Sep 03, 2007, 12:24 AM // 00:24

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Originally Posted by blueone

I just can't believe the amount of people complaining over how the freaking armour looks. Who gives a crap? Except for the vain, of course.

Most people do actually. That is why there are so many different sets of armor in Guild Wars. ArenaNet knows its customers, and clearly you do not. I guess that makes everybody vain then.

Kinn · Sep 03, 2007, 12:29 AM // 00:29

Eh, I don't give a hoot about the armour, anything more expensive than Drok's is a waste of money in my opinion. I don't find farming or power selling fun. The little money I do save up goes on real stuff like elite tomes or weapon mods.

That said, I'm dissappointed with GW:EN's lack of challenge when just running a cookie-cutter hero/hench setup. For some reason Anet chose to push PvE towards a primarily single-player experience. This is a highly flawed concept, when you, the player, are just one in a team of 8, and with the right hero/hench setup you can pretty much C-Space then AFK through most mobs, because now with more hero combinations possible and better henchman skillbars, 7 AI and you doing nothing is still pretty sodding powerful.

kazjun · Sep 03, 2007, 12:46 AM // 00:46

Lol, 10-15k armour is a waste of money, but you'll pay about the same for an elite skill tome when you can get the skill yourself for 1k? Right...

Thom The Brawler · Sep 03, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53

It would be nice if some MOD could take all these CRY ME A RIVER threads and merge them all together. It's becoming nothing but forum litter at this point.

Zubrowka · Sep 03, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14

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Originally Posted by blueone

I just can't believe the amount of people complaining over how the freaking armour looks. Who gives a crap? Except for the vain, of course.

You're oversimplifying things. Those who crave good looking armours, I think, are driven by a deep-seated psychological need. As young boys, they weren't allowed to play with dolls, because societal expectation, even through that's what they really wanted. GW gives them a chance now to fulfill this long-repressed desire, in a context that doesn't call into question their sexuality. It's liberating and healthy.

Thom The Brawler · Sep 03, 2007, 01:19 AM // 01:19

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Originally Posted by Zubrowka

You're oversimplifying things. Those who crave good looking armours, I think, are driven by a deep-seated psychological need. As young boys, they weren't allowed to play with dolls, because societal expectation, even through that's what they really wanted. GW gives them a chance now to fulfill this long-repressed desire, in a context that doesn't call into question their sexuality. It's liberating and healthy.

FTW(mandatory 12 spaces)

Cathode_Reborn · Sep 03, 2007, 01:22 AM // 01:22

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Originally Posted by Kinn

This is a highly flawed concept, when you, the player, are just one in a team of 8, and with the right hero/hench setup you can pretty much C-Space then AFK through most mobs, because now with more hero combinations possible and better henchman skillbars, 7 AI and you doing nothing is still pretty sodding powerful.

I'm doing that right now as I type this. Grinding for asura points is no fun at all so I figure i'll let the ai do the work for me.

Kinn · Sep 03, 2007, 07:06 PM // 19:06

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Originally Posted by kazjun

Lol, 10-15k armour is a waste of money, but you'll pay about the same for an elite skill tome when you can get the skill yourself for 1k? Right...

Yeah you're right. 10k is too much. I guess it's more cost-effective for me to just spend the next month ploughing my brand new necro through the Prophecies campaign so I can cap Aura of the Lich.

Cheers for the tip

wetsparks · Sep 03, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15

There are plenty of legitiment things to complaign about in GW:EN, but armor isn't one of them.

Blkout · Sep 03, 2007, 07:49 PM // 19:49

GW:EoN is one boring grindfest in summary. Highly dissapointed here also. It just doesn't feel exciting at all.

Concerned Guildy · Sep 03, 2007, 08:05 PM // 20:05

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Originally Posted by Zubrowka

You're oversimplifying things. Those who crave good looking armours, I think, are driven by a deep-seated psychological need. As young boys, they weren't allowed to play with dolls, because societal expectation, even through that's what they really wanted. GW gives them a chance now to fulfill this long-repressed desire, in a context that doesn't call into question their sexuality. It's liberating and healthy.

That is one of the funniest things I have read in a while. Thank you Zubrowka!

I would like to add to this that I care about the armor because I do dress my characters up and I like it. If I am going to spend hours looking at my characters, I want them to look good.

That being said, to all those that love to tell everyone else that they are wrong and should not complain... Why are you on the forums? This is a place for people to talk about their thoughts, opinions, and ideas about the game. This is not meant to be a place for people to run around and bash others opinions just because you are behind a desk and you know that no one will do anything about it. I have my opinions and you have yours, thank you to all that have shared their thoughts/opinions about the game; not about whether one person is right or wrong.

Thom The Brawler · Sep 03, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by Concerned Guildy

That is one of the funniest things I have read in a while. Thank you Zubrowka!

I would like to add to this that I care about the armor because I do dress my characters up and I like it. If I am going to spend hours looking at my characters, I want them to look good.

That being said, to all those that love to tell everyone else that they are wrong and should not complain... Why are you on the forums? This is a place for people to talk about their thoughts, opinions, and ideas about the game. This is not meant to be a place for people to run around and bash others opinions just because you are behind a desk and you know that no one will do anything about it. I have my opinions and you have yours, thank you to all that have shared their thoughts/opinions about the game; not about whether one person is right or wrong.

I have no problem with the OP's opinion or with him stating it on the forum, I just think it's sad that all these people with the same old gripe think they should open yet another thread instead adding it to one of the other dozen identical threads. It's not like anything new was added to this forum with this thread.

acidic · Sep 03, 2007, 08:20 PM // 20:20

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I have no problem with the OP's opinion or with him stating it on the forum, I just think it's sad that all these people with the same old gripe think they should open yet another thread instead adding it to one of the other dozen identical threads. It's not like anything new was added to this forum with this thread.

And for the people that agrees with ANET that isn't something new either, so why do you people need to post aswell?

Well99 · Sep 03, 2007, 08:37 PM // 20:37

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Originally Posted by Thom The Brawler

It would be nice if some MOD could take all these CRY ME A RIVER threads and merge them all together. It's becoming nothing but forum litter at this point.

So I guess it is ok for you to cry about others crying?I could care less about armor.I used Droks thru 4 games.Still people have the right to have their say.Until they make you Dictator for Life at GWGuru people have the right to post their opinion.Anet views post on forums to see how people feel about the game.Good,bad or indifferent.

camulus · Sep 03, 2007, 10:43 PM // 22:43

Love the story
Love the scenery and the enemy
Love the change, and some of the concepts

The one thing I hate about it this update is that they have made it so you HAVE NO CHOICE but to grind, kill similar things again and again to access some of the services (armour etc) in the game.

Thats fine for your first character, but if you like to play them all , it gets very tiring and very tedious very fast.

At the very most I will choose one of my other professions to take through , but just like factions, the compulsory grinding turns me off completely.

Personally I am presuming that they are trying to keep people occupied in the game by requiring the grinding, so that they dont leave Guild wars and play other things before GW2.

All I can say is I will only update one of the four main accounts I use, and Anet lost $90 of my money by doing what they did.

You only need to have 1000 more like me out of the millions that play to see they lost $90,000 or more from their game play design.