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Old Sep 07, 2007, 02:37 AM // 02:37   #141
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haven't seen the Charr lands yet, but Loki keeps squealing like a girl about them and guildies are screaming about how pretty they are too, so i'll wait and see...
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Sunspear Armour 5k and 15k alone were reskins of Kurzick 5k and 15k, most of the elite armours in prophs were reskins, that was the point of them and no one complained back then
Wrong. Even 2 years ago, people complained. Still, the % of reskin is forgivable. End of story. Having a game with only 4 (except the 5 warrior) and reskining 3 is ridiculous..

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I really don't care about repetitiveness, the entire game is repetitive the second time through, i only do it with guildies for pleasure now
pff. That's such an excuse. I'm sure if every area in the game look the same you'd have something to complain about. The dungeons are generic. When that's the main selling point, and that's the quality you get, something is wrong.
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 06:49 PM // 18:49   #142
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Compare this to the average new PC or Console title. You put in maybe 10-20 hours of gameplay, little more on the more 'complete' ones, and its over. Most with very little or no replay value. Now look at Gw:en all the replay value in the world, personally ill probably log 100+ just farming dungeons and points but thats me ~
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51   #143
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We didn't RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing pay to be their RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing beta testers
Unfortunatly most online games are like this... nature of the beast, so yes we did all sign up for it.
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Old Sep 08, 2007, 11:39 PM // 23:39   #144
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Unfortunatly most online games are like this... nature of the beast, so yes we did all sign up for it.
Actually, we didn't. GW has never had this much grind in it. This is horrible and now effecting other areas of the game. Bad enough I bought it and hated it, now I am stuck seeing the skills effect the areas I want to play and the L33t mentality that goes with it.
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Old Sep 09, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42   #145
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It brings me a lot of pain to say. Yes...I feel I payed to much for GW:EN. I feel that maybe half of the price I payed would justify getting the content I got. HoM was a letdown, armor was a letdown, and the grind....huge letdown. Bringing one character through was ok...bringing the others through, well...I have no intention to. I just feel there's no point.

That said, I realize it was my choice to buy it. I saw the leaked pics of the armor weeks before release...but decided to have faith. I realize I can't just give it back and say "Gimme my money back, I'm disappointed with it". However, if in the future any more expansions are created (which I doubt), I won't be buying them.
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Old Sep 09, 2007, 06:30 AM // 06:30   #146
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It brings me a lot of pain to say. Yes...I feel I payed to much for GW:EN. I feel that maybe half of the price I payed would justify getting the content I got. HoM was a letdown, armor was a letdown, and the grind....huge letdown. Bringing one character through was ok...bringing the others through, well...I have no intention to. I just feel there's no point.

That said, I realize it was my choice to buy it. I saw the leaked pics of the armor weeks before release...but decided to have faith. I realize I can't just give it back and say "Gimme my money back, I'm disappointed with it". However, if in the future any more expansions are created (which I doubt), I won't be buying them.
Agreed.

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I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
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Old Sep 09, 2007, 06:41 AM // 06:41   #147
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Agreed.

Please remember....

I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
I'm getting deeply annoyed at your spamming. You say "Agreed" and then spam that shit over and over. We get it.
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Old Sep 09, 2007, 06:46 AM // 06:46   #148
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I'm getting deeply annoyed at your spamming. You say "Agreed" and then spam that shit over and over. We get it.
I am not spamming. This is my signature. It is on all my posts.

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I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
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Old Sep 09, 2007, 06:47 AM // 06:47   #149
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St. Anger was good compared to most of the music released in 2003, but it was still a bad album. (this coming from a huge metallica fan).

We're not talking about whether or not this is 'relatively' expensive. Most FPSs are overpriced IMO, but an RPG such has this has limitless possibilities, and for some reason they didn't tap into that potential.
I agree completely, I was gunna type my own response but this did fine.
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Old Sep 09, 2007, 11:20 PM // 23:20   #150
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Comparing to Bioshock it looks OK, but what about if you compare it to £25 Neverwinter Nights 2? Dosen't look as good then does it? Plus there's so much solo stuff now I might as well play an offline game with more depth and no repetative grind.
Think you may be right.


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Old Sep 10, 2007, 01:47 AM // 01:47   #151
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to be honest, having finished GWEN i'd rather not have bought it. oh well
reskinning dungeon textures + changing monsters + giving them new names = omg more dungeons!!
the impression i get is that some areas are done well, but the rest seemed incredibly rushed and shoddily done

for what i paid for it, i could have gotten a single player RPG that would probably provide more game time and replayability value

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Old Sep 10, 2007, 02:26 AM // 02:26   #152
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I love Eye of the North

Jora alone made it worth the $50 I forked out
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Old Sep 10, 2007, 02:50 AM // 02:50   #153
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Eotn got some good fapping material, but i think nightfall was good, but factions and prophecies are not too shabby either
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Old Sep 10, 2007, 02:54 AM // 02:54   #154
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Definitely overpriced given its content (or lackthereof). To make matters worse, what content there is, is locked away by infuriating title requirements. Why am I paying for a game to annoy me? What's the point of making me GRIND for hours with every char just to get some stupid glasses?

I'd be far less critical of the game (even given its lack of content) if it weren't annoying me needlessly. New heroes are great, but since we can only play with 3 anyway, they're pointless. New armors and weapons are great (the 25% which aren't re-skins), but what's the point of them if I'm having a miserable time in getting them? Is it too much to ask for me to be able to buy some damn sunglasses for my pve chars without grinding a 20 hour title x 8?

Theory: By forcing you to play (and GRIND out these stupid titles), they think that will justify overpricing their game.

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Old Sep 10, 2007, 02:54 AM // 02:54   #155
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Now that I've spent several hours in the game this weekend, I can say without hesitation that GW:EN is well worth the money I paid. The environments I've seen so far are exquisite (I haven't even gotten to the Charr lands yet)... a lot of work went into them by a lot of very talented artists. The quests and mini-games are clever, imaginative and often humorous.

The only armor I really like is the Norn ranger (that I'm wearing in my new avatar), but so what. I like armors for the other classes in one or the others of the three campaigns, and that works just fine for me. I love all the new headgear though...great new addition.

I'm having a lot of fun and enjoyment in GW:EN. I'm very happy with my purchase.

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Old Sep 10, 2007, 03:24 AM // 03:24   #156
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Well considering we were deliberately deceived during the pre-release with high drop rates then get the full game and be lucky to even get a bag of coins does not bode well for the expansions worth or Anets integrity.
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Old Sep 10, 2007, 03:42 AM // 03:42   #157
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Well considering we were deliberately deceived during the pre-release with high drop rates then get the full game and be lucky to even get a bag of coins does not bode well for the expansions worth or Anets integrity.
Come on, you HAD to know that was too good to be true. I remember running through the preview picking up craploads of treasure and going "Yeah, THIS ain't gonna last."

I'm more peeved about the same thing most players seem to be -- the massive armor letdown.
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Old Sep 10, 2007, 05:06 AM // 05:06   #158
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I was lucky my old computer died before GW:EN hit the shelves so I was able to stay away from shelling out 35 precious dollars. From what I've heard / seen from the preview weekend, its more of the same...and that same means more of the same old CRAP.

Grinding? What a waste. If I wanted to grind I'd play a game where it matters a tiny bit more a la WoW. Because PvE in GW is pointless. Once you get max AL armor, you're at the peak of your power. The only reason to keep playing is because you enjoy repetitive grinding. Why don't you go work at McDonalds for 8 hours instead? That's the reason a game like Bioshock is 50$. Because it varies.

You can't even call GW:EN an expansion. It added NOTHING to PvP, nothing innovative / new (hello reskins) to PvE, so then why pay for it? I'll consider purchasing it when it drops to 20$. I can live without the "Pay 30$ for bonus missions".
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Old Sep 10, 2007, 06:51 AM // 06:51   #159
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People have to remember that what you enjoy about guild wars maybe different than other people. I personally wanted to have new armor, weapons, bosses, monsters and alot of end game content for replayability. But what i paid for was old armor, a few new weapons, reskined bosses and monsters, and no end game content after the story and dungeons. I beat the game in 2 hours, yes 2 hours. I mastered most dungeons just to get the occasional diamond, gemstone, or green brute sword (yuck) from a chest. Now there is nothing i really want to do in GWEN. So for me, for my personal interests, it wasnt worth the money, way too expensive. I may have shelled out $20 for it. But i dont buy expansion packs to look at the nice scenary.
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Old Sep 10, 2007, 09:34 AM // 09:34   #160
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Come on, you HAD to know that was too good to be true. I remember running through the preview picking up craploads of treasure and going "Yeah, THIS ain't gonna last."

I'm more peeved about the same thing most players seem to be -- the massive armor letdown.
For me, it is not armor.

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I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
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