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View Poll Results: Should HoM be changed as it currently is?
Yes, and it should include being changed to being account based, as well as changes mentioned. 750 78.21%
Yes, but it should not be changed to being account based, but many changes should be made. 183 19.08%
No, I believe that HoM is as good as it can be, but account based would be nice. 25 2.61%
No, HoM is perfect as it is, Anet designed it flawlessly. 26 2.71%
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:01 PM // 15:01   #121
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I would simply like the HoM to be accessible for those of us who have no interest in Guild Wars PvE whatsoever, and would like our Champ, Glad and Hero Titles displayed; without having to roll a PvE charcacter, grind our way to 20, and then have to visit the HoM.

That is my only criticism about it.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:06 PM // 15:06   #122
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As primarily a PVE player who is concentrating all efforts on a single character it's disheartening that I am unable to display my "Legendary Skill Hunter" title. For a lot of us, we work towards titles that actually have a benefit in making our characters more powerful, not necessarily for bragging rights.

Although I do agree that changes need to be made, I do see possible exploit issues if minipets were to not be customized to the character or player's account. Unfortunately I do not have a suggestion to overcome this at this time.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:08 PM // 15:08   #123
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I'd like an extra tab in storage added for Gwen like we recieved awhile back for each campaign we own.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:18 PM // 15:18   #124
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I've been moved to sign-up to the forums and throw in my 2pence, Overall I enjoyed GW:EN but the HoM was a MASSIVE letdown!

The way I see it:

1. Account Based

I have 8 chars across Prophecies and Cantha, I only find time to play a few hours a week so there's going to be an awful lot of dust collecting in my chars HoMs if it remains char based.

2. Monument of Devotion

I'm so glad I tested this on my Devourer, I'm stunned that it customises to one char, add to that the unsightly lettering overlay and rubbish layout (I'd be straight down to the Ikea outside Lions Arch for some shelving/stands for the rarer minis).

The best solution I've seen suggested to this is account customisation of mini's, I shudder to think what it would take to display a full collection across 8 chars!

3. The Monument of Honor

I don't PvP at all, 1. I'm not very good (Leeeerooooy) 2. First person Shooters are where I get my PvP kicks.

I've tried bloody hard to get a few PvE titles across my chars and would like to see this reflected (e.g shimmering generic globe for Cartography or shimmering warrior cradling a baby (devourer egg?) for Protector)

4. The Monument of Valor

IMHO greens are more common than the weapons I use as you cant dye/upgrade them, sure my weapon of choice is only a forked sword but its been dyed to match my armour and generally "pimped" to my liking, having a Fellblade crossed with a Flamberge hanging up on a wall (regardless of stats) above a favorite shield would look great.

5. The Monument of Resilience

I was totally let down by this, I had visions of museum-like full armour displayed in the colours I have used e.g my silver/blue Drok Knights next to my Monks Censor/Wanderer combo. Not a small thing with a colour that blends in with the rest of the place!

6. Accessibility to HoM

The short-cut key suggestion or even just a Pin on the map to travel to directly would be better than the current warp-and-run (hey, I'm lazy like that )

7.Upgrades in HoM

Rather than a Xunlai chest why not be able to drag 'n' drop your items in to the display? My minipets are occupying a tab in storage and my armour sets have been dumped on chars which I'm not using at the time.
Money-sink upgrades could be along the lines of drapes/torches/stands for armour sets/pegs to hang swords/shelves to stand minipets on and so-on

The above suggestions are my Ideal-World solutions, as it stands the HoM is worthless to me and holds no re-visit value

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:26 PM // 15:26   #125
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/agree on the part that the HoM needs some radical changes.

Why not create a complex of halls???!!! One where you start in a hall that displays everything that you've achieved overall on your account (account wide titles, minipets, weapons and such). Upon placing the items in your hall they become customized to your account. And then up to 10 halls displaying your individual characters with their individual achievements, limited to 1 per profession so you would only get to display your champions (Hall of Warriors displaying your Warrior Champion, Hall of Monks displaying your Monk Champion, etcetera). Of course since the hall is about your greatest achievements it should only display maxed titles plus perhaps some very very very very though titles that are not yet maxed for which they have plans in GW2.

And I am sure that ANet has plenty of time to figure out a system of how to assign certain items, titles, etcetera to a character or account later in GW2.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:33 PM // 15:33   #126
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I really enjoyed the preview weekend but the HoM was the one thing that really bothered me, most of all was probably that it was an explorable area and not like your own GH for your account.

I understand why, cuz of the scrying pool and all, but still, it was pretty lame.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36   #127
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/signed. Monument of valor would only house "Destroyer Weapons" when I added the tapestry to it.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:47 PM // 15:47   #128
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+80% of people want HoM improved, are you reading this, dear ArenaNet?

[Sarcastic note: +80% also want: 1. Full heroes party, 2. Hair stylist, 3. Trade House ...]
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:54 PM // 15:54   #129
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Lol, I want more, give me more!
All it is a place to put your damn virtual "Look I'm good at something, I think" titles, it isn't that important. Play the game and stop worrying about your precious Canthan Explorer.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:58 PM // 15:58   #130
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when i saw a bunch of ugly warrior armor in place for my monks armor in HoM i was very displeased

the monument of valor is crap, i have 30 high end war weapons that i cant display cause they arent from gwen, and even when i get high end weapons from gwen it wont let me display them, just terrible
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02   #131
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Nothing in PvE should be account based.

That said it'd be nice to see more titles reflected.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 04:20 PM // 16:20   #132
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 04:25 PM // 16:25   #133
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but what i really would like to see in HoM would be a better rearrangement system. I find the current one horrible, u click rearrange and its completelly random where ur minis will be positioned or which heros will appear on the display after you have placed more then 5.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 04:37 PM // 16:37   #134
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 04:47 PM // 16:47   #135
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Please allow us to remove statues after we put them up, or at least preview them. I had no idea what the Animal Companion one was, so I put it up. Not only does it look horrible, but it wastes a spot that could be used by something else.

I am VERY disappointed in the Hall of Monuments.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 04:48 PM // 16:48   #136
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Thank God for this topic. I hope Anet realises how much HoM sucks. I wanna display my rank 4 in hero and kurzick supporter title!
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 04:49 PM // 16:49   #137
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I love HoM, but all above changes would be appreciated
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 04:53 PM // 16:53   #138
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I grinded away for ages on my PvE titles under the impression that they would count for something, what a bloody waste of time that was. Everything that I saw in the preview event was perfect and lived up to my expectations, other then the HoM that is, what a wasted opportunity and a real let down. I cant even display my favourite weapons that I love so much and my own armor, not someone elses armor.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57   #139
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It is ridiculous that i have spent countless hours maxing numerous pve titles and I dont even get to show them off just because I dont like to pvp. This definitely needs changed.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 04:58 PM // 16:58   #140
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I totally agree with everything written of silly warrior.

HoM really needs to become account based, everythign what HoM includes, to too Mini Pets, can't be that we have to customized them to single characters, noly so that they don't become tradeable for quick free unlocking. Good, this is a good reason i agree to, but this stuff can be solved in a much better wayby simple making mini pets in general account based and untradeable/unsellable and then just give the game more oppotunities for the players to receive the mini pets, then only over events or after waiting a whole dumb year, until ur char gets birth day and then hoping u get something, that u haven't got yet.

Mini Pets get then only tradeable via NPC's for the players which havevthen more then 1 of the same mini pet, at those npc u can then trade ur mini pet against an other of the same rarity rank (birthday rank) versus a additional fee of say 10 Platin to bring the npc to the point, that its willing to make the trade
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The Hall needs more Monuments, there are lots of things, that can be used.

Devotion: Minipets
Put your account based Mini Pets in, that get customized to ypour account.
Once done, your accound based mini pets become untradeable but are still usable with all of your characters of your account.
(think on every existing minipets !!! Anet give us a way to receive too over an hard ingame way the special minipets like asura, panda, isle guardian and so on. people should be able to get every existing minipet over time, when not, its unfair. Can't be, that we europeans for example have to buy the very rare ones from such promotion shit have to buy them ever from chinese players or so for 100p and xxx ectos)

Honor: Titles
Lol, this monument sucks, only PvP titles... put in all possible titles !!!
And then make not them unlockable with r9 ..
The unlock should begin for every title with Rank 1!!!
And then, everytime when you raise one titles rank , the unlocks for GW2 become part for part more valuable or simple more.

Example:
You start GW2 with 3 maxed titles only, the bonus unlock u'll receive then is then not so much valuable, as when u start GW2 with 30 maxed titles.
This momument needs to get stages for the bonus stuff u'll receive later in GW2 over this monument

Valor: Weapons,Shields, Focus Items
With this Monument, the player should be able to put in green Stuff of any sort, not only Weapons. Thius monument should allow the player later for sure, to craft finally ur own weapons with its own names somehow

Resilence: "Hero" Armors
Again, this Momument should get 2 stages of unlock valuable.
players should be able to put on the altar statues of every unlocked hero they have, regardless of the point ,which kind of armor they wear, but so more of them wear their acsendend armors and not their standard armors, to better will become the bonus unlocks for GW2 over this monument

Now to new monuments that the hall could have:

Monument of Love: Ranger Pets
Over this Monument the Player can put on the altar statues of account unlocked ranger pets, which get unlocked, once the player has tamed them once. This monument would be then a way to, to give the rangers a possibility to exchange pets.
When u want to exchange for example then ur UW spider for phoenix, both are put on HoM altar, then u go to ur HoM to the monument of love, where u can then exchange at the monument ur pets. The soul of the tamed pet will then pop out of the statues on the altar and the one of the pet that leaves u for the other pet goes into the statue

Monument of Proud: Player Armors
On this monument, u can put on the Elite-Armors of your character and with this monument u can change then your armors, as u would change pets at the monument of love.
over this way the player doesn't need then douzends of spots of his storage for the armor parts, no the play can then change his armors simple at the moinument without wasting storage place anymore. statures wearing the armors will appear then, the one in the middle will be then your character and the player can sort, which armor ur character should wear on the altar


Monument of Dignity: Runes,Isignia,Weapon/Shield Upgrades,Focus Cores
Over this monument u put in the best stuff of those things only in, (for runes u have to put in all versions from weak to strong - effect, prices will raise a bit for all ), Stuff will be shown then.

Monument of Wisdom: Skill Points, Unlocking of Skills %
On this Monument will be recorded, how much Skill Points u've totally received with all your characters and how much % of existing skills including elite skills are unlocked for ur account (in an other way, the is the monument for characters experience points) this monument will not count skill points from the new star item. So more % u've reached, so more stars will appear on the altar. when u've reached 100%, u'll see a nice picture of shooting stars with a nice crescent moon

Monument of Courage: Number of Campaign Playthroughs in HM
The bonus unlock of this monument will be better, so more campaigns and add ons of GW1 u've played through in Hard Mode. For every campaign played through in HM, the player will see on his altar a big golden from campaign to campaing and add on different Trophy, like thiose, we can see on pvp isles for the World Mastership.

Monument of Passion: Experience Points
This Monument will count the total of expecience points of your account and how old your account is.
Means, every time when your account reaches certain marks of expecience point stages and certain marks of accounts age, more little trophys (artefacts will appear on the altar will will show quest items as representation of the time that has passed and things that u've seen over time in your journeys
Starting for example with red iris flowers.
So more exp u have in total, and so older your account becomes, so better will be the value of the bonus unlock for gw2.
This will also mean, that the player must have in GW2 the choice, if he wants to receive the bonus unlocks direct, or not, so that the player can wait with certain boni of certain monuments, so that the value of the bonus stuff can raise over time until its maximum.

Monument of Twilight: Event(Quest*) Masks

Important Note*: Please, very PLEASE, implement into the game quests, where players get in the end as bonus a certain event mask.
In this ay, people can reveive those mask, which had no chance to be on at the events, or which lost their masks, they got, because people had to delete their characters to receive with their main chara to get a chance to receive the survivor title -.- and cause of too less sorage place have lost their masks (like me) and have now no chance anymore, to get them back, because the stupid mask npc masks only copies of masks, from your account, u can#t use masks from other players to copy them so that u have one too at thsoe dumb npcs. so give the players quests, so that we can receive those masks too.
each mask u got get, lands on the altar of twilight.

so. that are all, that i can think of, soke could be put to the Eye of the North, but it are so much, why not make a "Eye of the South" for the new monumentsv for example in the west unused place of tyria's crystal desert, this half island, which some players might think of, that it may be the kingdom of Orr.

And then maybe creaty a little storyline between Ey of the North and Eye of the South, making those 2 to towers of the gods or so ^^.
Theoretically there can exist than too an Eye of the West and an Eye of the East with even further more monuments ^^

ok, stop dreaming, come to a point:

hope, much will be done in near future with the HoM, its far not perfect and there are lots of things, that can be done to make the HoM better

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