Curse

Longasc · Aug 27, 2007, 01:16 PM // 13:16

Yup, Account based.

I do not like to collect minipets for one char only and have the others nothing or having to split them between chars.

And well... the weapons monument needs an overhaul, the titles monument, the ...

EVERYTHING needs to be redone. It is terrible as it is.

DarkRaptorX · Aug 27, 2007, 01:19 PM // 13:19

I want to see my actual pet for the companion monument. The generic animal companion one was such a huge let down.

Here for the People · Aug 27, 2007, 01:25 PM // 13:25

/signed
i agree about the added storage i know its only a expanshion but why add more weapons armor and collectables and not ad more storage space

I am very limited on it since i collect mini pets and Greens so far Pushin 30+minis and 200+ greens adding a extra storage would help

Jayden_Angelus · Aug 27, 2007, 01:33 PM // 13:33

/agree

hopefully there will be some changes implemented. Setting up the Hall for atleast 10 characters is a bit much.

~|AW|Jayden

Yagyu_Jyubei · Aug 27, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34

/agree

I pretty much agree with everything, but on the other hand my first character has all the coolest titles out of all my chars and it was purely for this reason..so that ONE character has many titles. I'd leave it character based.

Hyper.nl · Aug 27, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40

Here are my points:

Please change it to account based. Please let us put achievements from any character to the same Hall of Monuments so you can have a grand overview of everything achieved in Guild Wars, no matter on which character.
Also, as suggested, a minipet customization system similar to the festival hat system would be awesome.
And last but not least, please allow us to put all maxed PvE titles into the hall. I guess that it will be added when GW:EN gets final, but for now I miss it. I especially have been working on PvE titles because of the Hall of Monuments.

But I also want to mention that the rest of GW:EN looks great. I don't only want to complain.

silvershock · Aug 27, 2007, 02:01 PM // 14:01

This is the thread I've been waiting for ever since i saw the HoM and it's flaws with my owns eyes. /Agree with everything.

FalconDance · Aug 27, 2007, 02:01 PM // 14:01

/signed, partially

A few peeves:

*Armor. I'm one of those people who like top mix and match armor for customization. So while I have most of an Ascended <insert type here> Armor set, I also tend to not have the boots or headgear to that set, for example. To say that ONLY the *full and complete* set must be had in order to display any at all is a bit over-the-top. It's supposed to be MY HoM, not the generic ideal population's. If I have a partial set, then at least let me display the set! (I realize that the custom mix and match can't be done.)

*Heroes and pets. Sucks that a statue can't be displayed unless they have Ascended armor OR are evolved, as well. I don't typically do the challenge missions (to get the hero armor pieces) and won't buy them. Guess the guys are out of luck. They're not important enough to commemorate because they don't have pretty armor.

My pet has been with me for nearly two years (and I truly don't know if he's "evolved" or not - not one of those vital things I lose sleep over). It would be nice if a statue of him were on display (haven't tried it yet). I understand there are those individuals who change pet companions at every whim, but there are those of us who do NOT. Make it if you've had a certain pet for xx time, maybe.

*Weapons. Come on! Only GWEN weaps can be displayed?!? Who thought of that? If the idea is that the HoM is to be a tribute to your past deeds, why would there only be weapons from 'the future' expansion allowed? Duh!

*Titles. Well. Smack the PvErs on the arse and call them less-than-worthy! IF you have a PvP title, you can flaunt it in the HoM. If not, you're S-O-L. Thanks.

Needs a lot of thought and rework. Nice concept, not nice realization.

Mamabear · Aug 27, 2007, 02:03 PM // 14:03

As with many of you, one of my biggest frustrations with this HOM is not being able to display my titles. I have one toon being my title chaser and worked ooooo so hard before GWEN to achieve yet the next title only to be disappointed in not being able to show it off. I see no point in displaying PvP only since the game is PvE based why is it that we are again shunned by Anet (as with all the weekends as of late being PVP awarded), this is just one more slap in the face. Yes, GWEN looks great and anet has done a beautiful job with the graphics upgrades, but it was a bit boring and I already had two nukers and two monks, what the heck do I need with another of each. Why not think up some new class of value with it's own unique abilities.
Just the opinion of an old woman, but aparently the sentiments of quite a few.

Gonzo · Aug 27, 2007, 02:04 PM // 14:04

/signed, some of the changes don't affect me at all, but I see them as flaws, having the hall be your own private GH would be awesome.

In adition I would like this: when you enter as a party you get the Hall of the party leader, not just an empty Hall.

Templar Walls · Aug 27, 2007, 02:04 PM // 14:04

/signed

HoM is not right as it is...

Noshada · Aug 27, 2007, 02:07 PM // 14:07

/signed

There are some with the notion that the Hall of Monuments is merely for the fanatically accomplished. That only the most deserving should have their titles ensconced in the hall. That this is not GWFacebook or GWSecondLife.

I don't agree at all. Anet created the HoM so as not to alienate its existing player base because of GW2. Not because only the best deserve the honor of showing their titles (that's what the Battle Isle Monuments are for). The HoM is for EVERYONE who bought Prophecies, Factions and/or Nightfall and GWEN. If you bought it and played it, you deserve to show anything you want in that hall. No one should dictate otherwise. It's your own little piece of GW real estate. It's one of the things you've paid for.

GW is a game that appeals to vanity. That's why rare, pretty suits of armor and weapons fetch astronomical prices in the market, even though they don't offer a greater edge in play. If you need the best gear stat-wise, just get 1.5k armor and a good collector or end-game weapon. But it's vanity that drives the economy, vanity that drives the quest for titles, vanity that keeps players playing long after they've finished the story.

The Hall of Monuments must cater to that vanity or it has no purpose in this game.

GW is a great game. The problem was that later expansions of the game gave away too much. Suddenly, there were too many skills and classes and not much else to build on. At the rate they were growing, there wouldn't be more leeway to grow (How many more skills can they come up with without being redundant?). That's why GW2 has to be built from the ground up. Anet knows it can't afford to lose the hundreds of thousands of people who bought into it. Hence, the Hall, and all the controversy that surrounds it.

puffzilla · Aug 27, 2007, 02:14 PM // 14:14

I I didn't think I wanted it to be account based but you have to admit that most of the titles are done by grinding. I really like playing on my 7 chars but don't have time to get all the title for them. Also I'm a PVEer and have 14 maxed titles but I can’t display a single one. Really not impressed by that.

Oh and you have the armor upgraded on your hero to be display yet their displayed with their default armor. What’s up with that?

The Luxon / Kurzick titles take forever to work on too but you can't display them either.

Squishy ftw · Aug 27, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19

/signed
-> I dont agree on the account based change, but I do agree on pretty much everything else.. The minipets should be changed, those armors should definetly be changed, cmon I got warrior obsidian but it displays this ugly rit and sin obsi :s ..

Big_Iron · Aug 27, 2007, 02:23 PM // 14:23

/signed

I loved the sneak preview and GW:EN is awesome, but the HoM was the little green worm in my shiny red apple. What a major let down.

Shanaeri Rynale · Aug 27, 2007, 02:27 PM // 14:27

/signed

The HoM should be special to ME, it should record and represent the things that I have taken pride in. Weapons and armor should be mine, the statues on which they are placed on should represent my character.

Unless it's personalised, allowing one to show their character in all their acheivements, no matter how trivial to others it's just a glorifed bric a brac collection of what the devs think should be important.

I can understand Anet wanting to give people something to work for, but this is like working for someone else's achievements.

I had hoped to be able to use my HoM, to help remember the fun people and times I'd met. Now I think the money I would have spent to go in there will be going towards more great art work. At least it's subjects I choose, remembering what I want to remember and I think i'll leave the HoM as less of a monument, more of a folly.

ProgTes · Aug 27, 2007, 02:28 PM // 14:28

/Signed, signed, and signed. I want every single piece of my ascended armor in there, as well as my PvE titles. It's just not right - making a PvE expansion and making a non PvE HoM! Well, everything has been said before. Random armor sets + r9 PvP titles = no way. Not going to invest anything in it if it stays as is.

Free Runner · Aug 27, 2007, 02:37 PM // 14:37

The Mini Pets and Hero Monuments need to be changed.

Why does the Hero monument require the hero to have upgraded hero armor and then show them in their regular? they could at least ether take away the requirement or show them in the armor.

Locking mini pets to a single character is crazy. It should be changed to account based at least.

The title monument...well i expect it to be able to show PvE titles in the future. Anet did just release a new favor system which is made up of mostly PvE titles - surely if they were in the Hall of Monuments more people would be attempting to max them?

On the title monument it felt like Anet were limiting us though - it shows the Gamer title but not the Luxon/Kurzick titles? surely more people have rank 9 Luxon/Kurzick title than R9 Gamer? R12 for Hero title and rank 9 for Gladiator?. It seemed like they only wanted a few players to actually unlock anything on that monument. So with that i still have faith that it will eventually display PVE titles.

I've didnt unlock the weapon one but i saw rumors it only took EotN greens - not sure if that is true but it seems weird. The armor one suprised me. It could of atleast showed my professions armor instead of a random warrior and ele.

Sweet Mystery · Aug 27, 2007, 02:41 PM // 14:41

/signed

I also want these monuments to display things proper. My primevil armor is the warrior and monk ones on display when the character was ranger. This kinda indicate account based unlock of the armor there - however my derv shows only her vabbian unlocked, again not the correct profession.

Also, I am rather pee'd that my PvE titles can't be shown... kinda proud of cartographer and it's not even mentioned.... come on Anet sort it out for the majority of players to get recognised at least for what they do!

Hexum · Aug 27, 2007, 03:00 PM // 15:00

/signed

I think it should be account based since I have PVE titles spread out on a bunch of chars.

As far as the "representations" of armor and pets they most likely will fix
that. perhaps didn't do it for the weekend.

I agree with pretty much everything in the OP.