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View Poll Results: Should HoM be changed as it currently is?
Yes, and it should include being changed to being account based, as well as changes mentioned. 750 78.21%
Yes, but it should not be changed to being account based, but many changes should be made. 183 19.08%
No, I believe that HoM is as good as it can be, but account based would be nice. 25 2.61%
No, HoM is perfect as it is, Anet designed it flawlessly. 26 2.71%
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 09:30 AM // 09:30   #61
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I totally agree with the ideas listed above. I dont want my pets customized to 1 perticular charicter. I would like to show off my perfect oni blade, and would realy and truly LOVE a place to store extra armors. Looking at the same armor day after day, week afer week gets old fast. As for titles, I had thought that all titles would be posted in the HoM. I have worked long and hard to get all elete skills, grandmaster cartographer and more. whats the point in the PvE titles if we cant log them here? I do not do the PvP at all. I am hoping for a bit of improvement in the end also.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 09:38 AM // 09:38   #62
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i agreed that HoM should be improved instead of being what it is now.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 09:40 AM // 09:40   #63
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Seriously disappointed with HoM. I hoped it would be something big, but it's a pile of crap now, hope you fix it.

1. mini pets seriously account based, now its sux ass (hope you will add spaces for minipets)
2. Ever heard of PvE titles AreanNet?
3.There should be button that teleports you directy into HoM (similar to guild hall button)
4. Account based would be great, but there is question will there be enough space in HoM. Maybe in your HoM would be shown only the highest titles from all characters and so on.


Hope when i finish GW:EN all this would be fixed.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 09:41 AM // 09:41   #64
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I really hope hom will change
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 09:42 AM // 09:42   #65
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As a PvE player mainly its kind of annoying that after all the time going for the various PvE titles they seem to be just ignored. I think the majority of PvE players would like to see 'all' of their title achievements displayed.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 09:46 AM // 09:46   #66
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I think this is one of the few instances were the community (or at least the vocal minority of the community which guru and other fan sites represent) are agreed.

The HoM in its current state is dispointing, and is in need of many changes; this thread lists some of the best changes, so, for all its worth, it gets a big

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 09:51 AM // 09:51   #67
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agree with all the points!
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 09:54 AM // 09:54   #68
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As mentioned by Boone, it shouldn't be entirely account-based. Things that aren't exactly "accomplishments" like the minipets could be account based, but titles and armors and weapons, etc. should stay character based.

For accessibility, it would be cool to have a window much like the Guild Window that lists what you have displayed there, and has a button to send you straight to the HoM.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 09:56 AM // 09:56   #69
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I think all the suggestions are great
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 10:02 AM // 10:02   #70
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1. Although I do not think HoM should be account-based, as the benefit of having multiple characters is that you can have more fun whilst playing yet that understandable is counter-acted by having to split your time across them, HoM is clearly bugged and not working as it should do.

2. Agree 100%.

3. Agree 100%. It was implied that our PvE exploits would be recorded in past statements, entries, etc by ANet developers et al. It is completely ridiculous that only the top-level PvPers should have their titles recorded.

Achieving Legendary Guardian was not an easy task, especially as the weekend it started I was busy so lost the opportunity to play with many people who raced through the missions.

Maybe the monument could also show each campaign completed by the character in question.

4. I would agree that ALL green items owned and customised by a character should be on display. Maybe also rare gold items.

5. I want to make an important point. Some of us DO NOT LIKE the whole armour sets. My armour is a mix of Vabbian and Elite Sunspear. So I think armour should be shown even if it is not a whole set - otherwise people will get sets just for the sake of it, which is rather silly (we should buy armour because we like the look).

6. Great idea.

7. Meh, not a priority - fix and change the rest of HoM first.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 10:12 AM // 10:12   #71
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1. Account Based
It would be very nice if it were account based, especially for consolidating all titles in one display and the minipets. The armor monument could get a bit crowded if one has more than one set of high-end armor on multiple characters.

2. Monument of Devotion
Customizing mini-pets to an account would be a resonable compromise here. Since you have to give your account a name, it should be possible to customize minis to the account name. (I don't think anything else should be able to be customized to an accoount, tho)

3. The Monument of Honor
I find it extremely ironic that in a character based HoM, the only titles that can be displayed are titles earned by multiple characters (I have a empty slot for re-rolling PvP characters ) and are account based! I do agree that the bar should be set a fairly high for which titles can be recorded there, but since every PvP person who has posted here says "too high" I'll sign any petition they have in support of the PvP title diplay requirements being lowered.

4. The Monument of Valor
- It should be limited to high-end weapons, but not just GW:EN ones. Gaining a tormented weapon is a huge accomplishment, why shouldn't it be recorded?

5. The Monument of Resilience
My MESMER has FoW armor - I don't have an assassin, my ritualist is a low-level mule (but those are the 2 on diplay in her HoM), why the hell would I want to display armors that are 1 - ugly as hell (IMHO), and for professions that I haven't developed or even created!

6. Accessibility to HoM
This isn't an issue for me.

7.Upgrades in HoM
Doesn't Eye of the North have all the traders and what-not? As long as the HoM stays where it is, I don't see the point.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 10:13 AM // 10:13   #72
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/signed but only partially agree

1.) Account based shouldn't happen. The HOM is designed as a momument to " that " character and not an account.

2.) Only thing that annoys me about this is the display. Instead of seeing mini-pets all I see is lots of white writing that actually hinder you looking at the display itself.

3.) I would like to see a statue of my character here and the small blurp for P vs E is fine with me. This would get rid of some of the crying about displaying P vs P titles which I could honestly care less about. Max " X " amount of titles earn a satue of yourself.

4.) Yes on displaying the weapons you use. Require them to be customised to that character but we should be able to see that trusty weapon we have used since day one shouldn't we ?

5.) Armor - Disappointing display to say the least. I'm a ranger and I DO NOT want to see armor displayed on other types of characters. Need a general display fine but make it at least based on profession. So I don't get to see my own armor ( big deal ), at least it should be displayed on the right character class.

6.) Fine the way it is

7.) Could care less about NPC's in here
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 10:22 AM // 10:22   #73
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Kudos to the OP for not only being clear and concise, but also listing suggestions in their order of importance (in my opinion)

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I had hoped the HoM would be more like a massive storage locker. Like the mini-pets. Instead of a copy of my mini-pet on the shelf... I'd like to put the actual pet there so I don't have to carry it around in my inventory.

Same with armor. If I could put the actual set of armor on a rack in the HoM, then I could buy more armor sets since the extra set wouldn't be clogging my inventory.

I was expecting a place that could store tons of stuff, and organize it for me. I had also hoped it would say list all the quests I had accomplished across all the campaigns, showing me what was still left to do. But that was just a random dream.
This is exactly what I was looking forward to also. I love all the beautiful armor, weapons, and minipets my characters have accumulated over the 3 campaigns so far (personally I have 6 lvl 20 toons ), but I'm running out of space even though I use several extra slots as mules.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 10:24 AM // 10:24   #74
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From reading Gailes answers i get that they did not do it this way because of possible inheritance problems in GW2. They obviously don't want a single accomplishment inherited multiple times. /signed.
For the record, I agree with this. I am not trying to get any unfair advantage or 'legalized multiplication.' /signed -V
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 10:24 AM // 10:24   #75
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I have one more gripe to add:

The mini pet shrine should display all of your mini pets or at the very least allow you to decide which ones to put on display.

There is plenty of room on the display for more minipets to be put at the back and I feel a little let down by the fact that I have stacks of mini pets but can't display them all.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 10:30 AM // 10:30   #76
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It shouldn't be account based, than it's not really about 1 person..more like a group of heroes.
I would agree with this sentiment IF my necromancer could use my ranger character as a hero, and vice versa. However, that is not the case.

The Hall of Monuments, as I understand it, will connect with GW2 (which is set 250 years in Tyria's future) in much the same way as the Smithsonian works in our world. Characters in GW2 will find the HoM, and see an exhibit about character X. This should be about character X, then...not what ANet decides qualifies character X to even be in the HoM (which makes every HoM the same...all the titles, armor, weapons coming from a limited list of qualifying things). I should be able to walk in and see my ranger in the "exhibits."
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 10:36 AM // 10:36   #77
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I see the merit in making parts of it account-based, but the rest seems overkill. Agreed on points 1 and 2, ambivalent on point 5, disagreed on points 3, 4, 6 and 7.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 10:41 AM // 10:41   #78
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Imho, HoM should be like this:

1) Account-based.
2) A much more larger hall.
3) More achievements to display (hours of playtime, all the minipets, all the pets ever charmed, 15k and above armours etc.).
4) Minipets customized per account, and not per single character! It's crap!
5) In general, many more decorations, with more brilliant colours.

That's it!

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 10:46 AM // 10:46   #79
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/signed /signed and signed with the op. The Hall should accept all Armour including 1K 1.5, all Greens, All titles including LB rank 1 ,Sunspear rank 6 , 60% Explore etc etc to the maxed titles should be including in HoM. Every and all titles should be included. I agree minis should be accound based
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 10:47 AM // 10:47   #80
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I say Aye to all of the above. HoM is a big disappointment so far.

Personally i have a MEGA problem not being able to display my PERFECT req9 inscribile STYGIAN REAVER which drops exclusively and only in the HoH, and is currently priced at 600 ecto!!!; and that some noob can display his GREEN two pennys worth Axe of the Kinslayer!

And i think the xp-player with the perfect Crystaline very much feels the same way.

ANet please change the monument of Valor and do it quick!
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