Curse

snaek · Aug 27, 2007, 03:24 AM // 03:24

i like character based
cuz each of my charas have different achievements

i even understand teh customization of mini-pets
so that u cant jus borrow pets to have everysingle pet in ur collection
without having to spend a penny

monument of fellowship could use some improvements...

i like teh idea that u need to have upgraded armour,
cuz its supposed to display ur accomplishments
(and jus havin heroes is no accomplishment 0__o)

and i have gotten all teh armour upgrades for my heroes,
so im glad to be able to show it off....
only teh statues show teh heroes in their normal armour
shouldnt they be in their exotic armours? o___0

2nd thing,
like i said, ive gotten all my heroes armour upgrades
now, theres no specific way to choose which 5 heroes to display
it seems to be either random or a set choice

ive been clicking "rearrange statues" button for a loong time
and couldnt get teh 5 heroes i wanted on there >___<

so plz, give an option to display exactly which heroes u want in which spot

also, all my heroes have lvl20 pets...
plz let me display those too!
and not jus my single one pet

i suppose u could release and tame all pets to put in ur monument
but i have a dire black widow that i've had forever,
and im not gonna release that >__<

murasamenobunaga · Aug 27, 2007, 03:26 AM // 03:26

/signed, change is definetly needed.

Sentience · Aug 27, 2007, 03:29 AM // 03:29

I'm personally not too worried since theres a long way for GW2 and it's just a test weekend, but those changes are all changes I'd personally like to see.

Also on the FoW armor deal... I didn't bother grabbing a helmet for my Warrior FoW (Nor did I for the 15k glads/luxon), I doubt it would happen but I'd like it if I could still put my FoW on display even if i don't have helmet. I guess what I'm saying is I would like it if you could lack 1 armor piece and be able to display the set still.

SirDigi · Aug 27, 2007, 03:33 AM // 03:33

/agree

I would really like to show off some of the gold weapons that I have spent so much gold to upgrade to perfect. >.<

Jumping Is Uselss · Aug 27, 2007, 03:39 AM // 03:39

/signed

Atm HoM is a big let down. Armors are all messed up. And requires high PvP rank titles, while ignoring PvE titles.

reverse_oreo · Aug 27, 2007, 03:53 AM // 03:53

/signed, very well written just about fixes every flaw in the HoM

Ace2001 · Aug 27, 2007, 04:07 AM // 04:07

/signed

Though I understand why they did it character based; They probably want you to work on the character you want to take to GW2 and not be able to take half a dozen or more with all those benefits. >_>;; Or something.

Inger · Aug 27, 2007, 04:41 AM // 04:41

/signed

I was so dissapointed when I put my elite druid's armor in my hall...

It went like this:

I click to button to put my armor in my hall, a cutscene starts, my heart races, a smile gathers on my face, the screen zooms in... and I look to see a statue of my amazing drui.... ELEMENTALIST ARMOR?!?!

thor hammerbane · Aug 27, 2007, 04:47 AM // 04:47

/signed
-Acc Based: Rather see One full and impressive hall than a few empty uggos.
-Devotion:I have 1 minipet per char, would be better to have 4 in hall than just 1.
-Honor: Display titles you want. Not every1 weighs titles the same..
-Valor: If i want a hatchet displayed, why not

-Resilience: Rofl..What were they smoking?

Abyss1 · Aug 27, 2007, 05:06 AM // 05:06

/notsigned

Ok I actually think HoM is acting the way it is intended (ok so minus a few small bugs like the armor)

But as I understood the idea behind HoM it is only to reserve the name and the ascociated stats of that name, armors and other bonusses I just see as a bonus to that.

But HoM as I know it was intended is just to have your character in GW2 name accoplishments weapons and armors, well you have that. So it customizes your mini, I think that is logic as there will be new mini's etc in GW2 so they have to control the mrket somehow and this is the best way ever I think.

But bottom line conclusions have been drawn from a imcomplete preview weekend wait till release + 1 month and see what the status ius then and changes etc and then complain about what is intended how.

Feral Lightningpaws · Aug 27, 2007, 05:25 AM // 05:25

Especially regarding the The Monument of Honor, it would be good if it's available for more titles to be displayed. I wonder how many people sweat out on Lengendary Cartographer etc. and found out that they can't even display it on their Hall of Monuments and people who don't PVP that much.

More control on the arrangement of our heroes statues would be great instead of having to rely on random arrangements.

Kai Bryon · Aug 27, 2007, 05:48 AM // 05:48

/signed

...discuss...

Account based - This isn't a big deal to me personally, but I see where to some people it would be and I certainly would not be opposed to it.

Devotion - Please no customization to the character. I would personally prefer no customization at all since 'my collection' of mini pets is actually mine and my husband's and I don't want to fight over 'custody'.

Fellowship - Make them smaller, but please have spaces for all heroes to be displayed, or at least be able to show which heroes you want on display. Please remove the requirement of needing the upgraded armor in order to show them at all.

Honor - PvE titles please! And I want to be able to show off all of my titles, not just the max ones.

Resilience - I would much rather see my armor than a random sampling of that same kind of armor. Really I'd rather see my armor regardless of whether its 15k/ascended or not...there are many cheaper versions that I prefer over their more expensive counterparts.

Valor - So my Ghial's Staff isn't good enough for this rack? My Dwayna's Grace? *pout* Let me show off what I want to show off please.

Accessibility - It would be nice if there were a variety of access points to the Hall.

Vanessa Dwager · Aug 27, 2007, 06:44 AM // 06:44

/agree

I want the hall to recognize my Pve titles.

snaek · Aug 27, 2007, 06:53 AM // 06:53

sounds like ppl want more of a "show n tell" than a "trophy case"...

we're here to show hard-earned achievements,
not jus simple possessions that r cool

and anet is pretty lazy and slow wit things
and they do have their hands full wit a lot of things, including gw2
more improvements will come, im sure of it...
jus be patient

/not signed

arcanemacabre · Aug 27, 2007, 07:14 AM // 07:14

/signed

Very well said, Silly.

grrrrrenth · Aug 27, 2007, 07:25 AM // 07:25

Quote:

Originally posted by Everblight:
Without knowing what the specific mechanism/affect this will have for GW2, I agree with much of what was said here.

Additional points:

...

2. I fully support decreasing the requirement for the Monument of Honor. I am a roleplayer first and foremost, and as such my character titles mostly reflect the character I am playing (Pathfinder for my ranger, Seeker of Wisdom for my necro, etc.). I should be able to display those accomplishments with pride, not have to break character concept, or not play certain characters at the expense of another just to achieve a certain title.

...

4. Lastly, the idea of buying upgrades (Xunlai agent, Priest of Balthazar) for the HoM, and having a hotkey to jump there, is an awesome one, and an improvement that would be most welcome. Also, allow us to post our own "guards" instead of Stonehealer and Vekk at the door...I would be more confident with Goren guarding my stuff.

agree with what's said here, but....

Quote:

Originally posted by Abyss1
But bottom line conclusions have been drawn from a imcomplete preview weekend wait till release + 1 month and see what the status ius then and changes etc and then complain about what is intended how.

abyss1 makes a good point. should definately refer back to this thread after a month or so and see what (if anything) needs to be fixed after the release.

after everything is said and done though.... /signed

Vitas · Aug 27, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26

Normally, I wouldn't get involved in questioning ANet game design decisions; after all, it is their creation to do with how they will. However...

As it is designed, here is my HoM scenario:

8 different HoM's that are strictly separated and cannot be consolidated in any way.

1.) My Main - Lvl 20 Monk; 1 or 2 minipets and [maybe] a brown bear I've capped.

I thought about getting an elite armor, but I don't have a Rit character and don't care to see expensive and time-consuming Elite 15k Monk armor on an Elementalist.

0 Heros displayed, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed.
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2.) Lvl 20 Paragon; 1 or 2 minipets, a couple hero's I've upgraded, a flamingo I capped when I showed a guildie how to capture a pet,

0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed.

Incredibly, this would be my most populated HoM.

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3.) Lvl 20 Warrior; 1 or 2 minipets,

0 Pets displayed, 0 Heros displayed, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed.

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4.) Lvl 20 Elementalist; 1 or 2 minipets,

0 Pets displayed, 0 Heros displayed, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed.

__________________________________________________ _____

5.) Lvl 1-5 Elementalist; 1 minipet,

0 Pets displayed, 0 Heros displayed, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed.

__________________________________________________ _____

6.) Lvl 1-5 Dervish; 1 minipet,

0 Pets displayed, 0 Heros displayed, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed.

__________________________________________________ _____

7.) Lvl 1-5 Monk; 1 minipet,

0 Pets displayed, 0 Heros displayed, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed.

__________________________________________________ _____

8.) Lvl 20, Rank 0 PVP Paragon; 1 minipet,

(this was created for the NF Preview PVP event and never used again except for storage.)

0 Pets displayed, 0 Heros displayed, 0 Titles displayed, 0 Weapons displayed, 0 Armor displayed.

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There should be a creative way to consolidate and add titles and heroes and weapons on an account basis without creating holes or exploits. I've read a couple ideas on these forums that should be workable.

In this case I have to humbly submit a:

/signed.

As the situation now exists, I have no real reason apart from GW2 minipet bonuses (which isn't that important to me) to even bother with the HoM at all.

I will only visit my HoM the limited number of times it will take to complete the Gwen/Ogden/Vekk and Scrying Pool quests. I will have no need to ever visit it afterward.

EDIT: Just read Zexion's post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zexion

... So why does ANet decide what a "monument" is?
If a person wants to display, say, Ghial's Staff, to remind him of the first green he farmed, he can't?
That is a monument. Something made to forever remind of a deed. ...
_Zexion

I have to agree to this sentiment: I would love to be able to display all the Tomb Greens I've achieved as a way to memorialize all of the time I've spent training there and my expertise, teamwork and pwnage of the Primeval Tomb of the Kings! -V

Vermilion Okeanos · Aug 27, 2007, 07:38 AM // 07:38

/signed

I want to see HoM pull something like tournament NPC do. One name represent all your characters, and make the customization into that name. Then you shouldn't have problem with people trading away mini, etc to fill up HoM, as it is customized to your account.

As for weapons, I am fine with it being character based. But, when I get to GW2, I better not see that I can only receive the bonus one out of 13059807 characters.

Hero shrine, I don't mind it being character based that much... but I will ALWAYS welcome an account based there.

Armor shrine, I don't mind this being character based neither. However, I want to see MY armor, and not by armor sets. I love my armor mix, and I don't see a reason why I got to be left out with creativity and innovation. But, if Anet end up to not care... I will be sadden but not down.

As for title shrine... I think that thing is the biggest bogus there is in HoM.

Zexion · Aug 27, 2007, 07:41 AM // 07:41

It is a "hall of monuments", not a "hall of epeen".

So why does ANet decide what a "monument" is?
If a person wants to display, say, Ghial's Staff, to remind him of the first green he farmed, he can't?
That is a monument. Something made to forever remind of a deed. This is merely Titles 2.0

_Zexion

Atlas Ravens · Aug 27, 2007, 07:48 AM // 07:48

/agree

Make the mini's monument account based without any customization.

Keep the rest character based and allow PvE max titles such as Legendary* to be displayed.