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Old Oct 16, 2007, 09:23 PM // 21:23   #1
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Question Filling a Handbook... for the second time

eh, I turned in my first full NM handbook for 20k vanguard rep, and now I have a new book..

...but I'm really confused. Is it possible to completely fill a second book after you turned a completed one in? When I talk to the handbook collectors, they don't offer to fill in my pages, and I don't see how I can repeat primary quests, or is there a way to do so? I know the missions can be repeated, but how about the rest.. if the page about the handbook on gwiki said the answer, well, it was explained in a manner that I can't comprehend.

Me is wanting my spectacles. -.- thanks if anyone has an answer :3
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Old Oct 16, 2007, 09:25 PM // 21:25   #2
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"quests" are never shown in the hero books, only the missions. All the missions are repeatable, so yes, you can fill books more than once.

Maybe I dont understand your issue...

edit - I also cannot pay them to refill pages for missions that I have already completed. That was probably one of the things ANet disabled in the second patch that fixed an exploit...

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Old Oct 16, 2007, 09:34 PM // 21:34   #3
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so... I just have to go back and do all the missions? funfun. -_o

it's worth it, though ^^; I've got my 10k and materials all saved up, now all I need is the title.
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Old Oct 16, 2007, 09:58 PM // 21:58   #4
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so... I just have to go back and do all the missions? funfun. -_o

it's worth it, though ^^; I've got my 10k and materials all saved up, now all I need is the title.
10k for each piece remember!

EDIT: Oh wait, I just saw you were just getting sunglasses. DOH!
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 01:07 AM // 01:07   #5
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haha x)

eh... what do I do for Warband of Brothers? It's not really a mission.. do I just tag along with other people doing the mission for the first time?
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 01:39 AM // 01:39   #6
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it is a mission. just talk to one of the NPCs in Doomlore Shrine to start it. I think its the merchant, but i could be wrong.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 02:46 AM // 02:46   #7
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You can go to the scrying pool in Hall of Monuments and pick up any primary.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 05:24 AM // 05:24   #8
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You can go to the scrying pool in Hall of Monuments and pick up any primary.
That's right! I totally forgot about that.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 06:51 AM // 06:51   #9
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edit - I also cannot pay them to refill pages for missions that I have already completed. That was probably one of the things ANet disabled in the second patch that fixed an exploit...
No, it says you can pay to have them filled out if you completed them *without* your book. That is - you can't simply pay less than 2k over and over to gain back 4k + 20k allegiance, otherwise you have infinite gold

I assume that the first time we could do that was only for characters who already turned in one book due to the drastic increase in allegiance awarded.

I assume this works for each go through the game but I do not know if it "saves" them up (for instance, I have a book and do "blood washes blood" 10 times do I get to fill the next 9 books or not?). I haven't tested it as I always carry the book and have not repeated mission.

It basically means you don't have to carry the durned book around all the time - if you complete a mission or dungeon and you forgot to carry the book it means you no longer have to redo it for credit.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 07:50 AM // 07:50   #10
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You can go to the scrying pool in Hall of Monuments and pick up any primary.
Now thats good to know!!
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 08:57 AM // 08:57   #11
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Against the destroyers ... NO. as such you can never get to HoS Cyndr again, Unless you tag along with pug.

But this is soon to become moot as I'm almost positive in order to unjustly nerf the 2ndary character shortcuts they are going to make it that hero handbooks no longer have primaries done when created, If you have it done on your account.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 10:40 AM // 10:40   #12
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Reason why some missions are standard filled in your Handbook already.. ;P

Also redoing all the mission in HM, if you have a dedicated friend with you with heroes and good build shouldn't take you that long..

That's how me and my friend filled 2 books..
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 11:10 AM // 11:10   #13
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Reason why some missions are standard filled in your Handbook already.. ;P

Also redoing all the mission in HM, if you have a dedicated friend with you with heroes and good build shouldn't take you that long..

That's how me and my friend filled 2 books..
Not for long If Anet does what I am expecting... They do not want people taking the shortcut on 2ndary characters, so I'll lay my bottom gold piece that they will remove the auto complete on these quests to prevent it from being done. Thus making it impossible to do more books after completion. and May make HM books only possible if you buy the 4 primary pages.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 11:18 AM // 11:18   #14
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Against the destroyers ... NO. as such you can never get to HoS Cyndr again, Unless you tag along with pug.

But this is soon to become moot as I'm almost positive in order to unjustly nerf the 2ndary character shortcuts they are going to make it that hero handbooks no longer have primaries done when created, If you have it done on your account.
RONG!

Just go get all the Primary Quests from the Scrying Pool, and you can do them ALL OVER AGAIN (with Hard Mode or just Normal Mode). You get a reduced reward for completion, but the quest rewards are the same.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 11:54 AM // 11:54   #15
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You can make over and over again ALL primary quests. Anyway, just filled up HM mission handbook; not that hard for real.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 01:21 PM // 13:21   #16
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The way I understood it was that you cannot "Buy" pages for a book until you had done the mission and had 8 pages completed already.

A new book comes with 5 completed missions - so you will have to do another 3 until you be allowed to buy the remaining pages.

So for a character that has finnished the game - he can get a new book , do another 3 missions and then "Buy out" the rest of the book

I'll test this tomorrow
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 02:24 PM // 14:24   #17
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Pages acquired for missions completed without a Hero’s Handbook in your inventory can now be added to a Hero’s Handbook. The cost is 100 gold per missing page. Similarly, pages for dungeons completed without a Master Dungeon Guide in your inventory can be added for 100 gold per missing page.
If I read it correctly you can only buy pages for missions/dungeons that you completed but didn't have a book in inventory for....or at least that is the intent...
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 06:37 PM // 18:37   #18
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RONG!

Just go get all the Primary Quests from the Scrying Pool, and you can do them ALL OVER AGAIN (with Hard Mode or just Normal Mode). You get a reduced reward for completion, but the quest rewards are the same.
aha WONG! I think is what you want to say and No Against the destroyers will NOT be given to you at the pool. You got that from Jora and she never gives it to you again once you finish it. and the pool never offers it again.

Here is the complete Pool offering once you are done with GWEN.


This is Part of the reason the 5 primaries appear in your book when it spawns, When you are done with it on the account.

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Old Oct 17, 2007, 08:41 PM // 20:41   #19
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i have a normal mode handbook with 8 pages completed, including the pre-filled pages.
took it to the norn guy yesterday hoping to fill in the rest of the pages but he would only take it as-is, with a reward of 2k rep points, and some amount of gold and xp.
so it is on a sliding scale of complete-ness that determines the reward amount. i wish you could just pay to fill the rest of the book :/
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 08:48 PM // 20:48   #20
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eh, I turned in my first full NM handbook for 20k vanguard rep, and now I have a new book..


Me is wanting my spectacles. -.- thanks if anyone has an answer :3
On a side note why are you getting Vanguard rep to try and get spectacles you need Asuran rep for the specs.
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