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Old Sep 04, 2007, 07:23 PM // 19:23   #1
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Default A flaw in the star of transference

This doesnt make sense,

Star of transference
Double click to gain a skill point.

Cost-1 SKILL POINT,25 wood,25 fiber and 250 gold

Anet rushing threw making items?
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 07:26 PM // 19:26   #2
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It's called a star of transference for a reason. It is essentially paying that small cost to transfer a skill point from one character to another. It might not seem like a big deal, but when you have millions of xp and 100+ skill points sitting on your main character at any given time, it can be a nice boost to get a new pve character up and running more quickly. Of course the tomes are better imo but what do I know eh?

You have to hand it to them that the armor and morale ones are pretty sweet
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 07:28 PM // 19:28   #3
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Okay, take another look at the name of the consumable: The Star of Transference

To transfer = To convey or remove from one person to another

Therefore, this is so you can transfer that skill point from one of your characters...to another, at a cost. That is what it is.
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32   #4
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A flaw in your logic.


Okay, take another look at the name of the consumable: The Star of Transference

To transfer = To convey or remove from one person to another

Therefore, this is so you can transfer that skill point from one of your characters...to another, at a cost. That is what it is.
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Tome

its much cheaper then a star of transference and if someone possibly wants to buy every skill with a starting character from a skill trainer they are not going to get much of an option

So whats the point?
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 07:34 PM // 19:34   #5
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Do tomes not use a skill point when you use them?
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 07:38 PM // 19:38   #6
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I actually dont know i never checked
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 07:51 PM // 19:51   #7
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Tomes are miles better unless you've never played and have nothing unlocked.
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 07:54 PM // 19:54   #8
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Can't use tomes to buy stuff at the consumables guy.
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 07:57 PM // 19:57   #9
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And do let me know which tome you use to get cap sigs
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01   #10
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One Word

Tome

its much cheaper then a star of transference and if someone possibly wants to buy every skill with a starting character from a skill trainer they are not going to get much of an option

So whats the point?
What about the people going for Skill Hunter title(such as myself)?

I currently have 37 skill points left after capping all of Tyria and Cantha...but I have well over 100 Elites to cap in Elona. How will I get the skill points I need for Cap Sigs fast enough? Guildies with 200+ skill points will be more than willing to share.

Hence why I loves these.
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 08:04 PM // 20:04   #11
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Tombs only work for skills you already have unlocked on an account, so if you're starting a new profession outside your main chars, you may not have those skills unlocked. Tombs in that case do you no good unless you go unlock on your main, then buy a tomb or find one adventuring. Tomes are a more expensive way to transfer a skill point, 1k for the skill and w.e. to buy the tome.

just another way a-net makes it easier for new players to catch up, imo.
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 08:05 PM // 20:05   #12
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Yup, as people have said, it transfers a skill point to someone else. Good idea for those wanting to get more skills onto one character who has very little left from a character who has a ton.

I am still wondering though if the other consumables stack with other types of consumables . . . ? Good hp addition + major morale boost or only one a time?
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 08:05 PM // 20:05   #13
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Transferances work for when you create a new charecter with a profession in which you have few skills unlocked or when you want to unlock skills for that profession with a higher level/further area but dont have the points to do it.

Yes, their use is limited. No, I dont think it is entirely pointless.
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 08:20 PM // 20:20   #14
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The problem with using just tomes is that you have to have the skill unlocked in order to get the skill.

Having a skill point allows you to unlock and get the skill at the same time. A skill point also allows you to get a Cap sig, which allows you to unlock and get an Elite skill. Additionally, it can be a way to get a hero skill point for a particular character, which you need in order to get a Sunspear Skill. Sunspear skills cannot be obtained via tomes.

So the Star of Transference can be useful.

For regular skills:
Normal Tome: aprox. 300-500g - Gains a skill already unlocked on your account (to unlock you also have to have 1000 faction - gained in about 20-40 minutes of PvP)
Star of Transference: 1 Skill Point, 25 Wood, 25 Fiber, and 250 gold (costs more than a tome) plus up to 1k for the skill. Unlocks _and_ gains a skill, no faction necessary

For elite skills:
Elite Tome: aprox 8-11k - Gains an elite skill already unlocked on your account (to unlock you also have to have 3000 faction - gained in about 1-2 hours of PvP)
Star of Transference: 1 Skill Point, 25 Wood, 25 Fiber, and 250 gold (costs more than a tome) plus up to 1k. Trade for a Cap Sig. Unlocks _and_ gains an Elite skill, no faction necessary. Add time to fight to and kill boss that has the skill (between 5 and 40 minutes)

For Sunspear skills:
No tome can get a sunspear skill.
Star of Transference: 1 Skill Point, 25 Wood, 25 Fiber, and 250 gold plus 1k to hero skill trainer

So, they are not useless, especially for a PvE only player who would not want to do PvP for the sole purpose of unlocking a skill so they can use a tome. Having the skill point on hand and access to the trainer does the same.

Having a tome, and the faction would indeed be cheaper, but sometimes having more plat than faction means that it's easier to use the Star to get the skill. Having said that though, not one of my lvl 20 characters have less than a dozen skill points, and several have more than 100, so I don't see myself using these, but I can see thier use.
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 08:24 PM // 20:24   #15
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Yay finally a way to sell my skill points!!!
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Old Sep 04, 2007, 08:27 PM // 20:27   #16
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Quote:
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Do tomes not use a skill point when you use them?
Yes they do NOT use a SP. I've used numerous regular tomes for numerous professions and never once lost a skill point by learning a skill from a tome. Elite tomes are the same, although my xp with them is limited to 1 time.
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 04:01 AM // 04:01   #17
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I did not see mention of the fact that you may only use tomes of your primary prof. So if a assassin wants to learn flurry (Warrior Prof. skill) and is in need of a skill point no tome will aid him in that endeavor.

That being said though exp. is easy to come buy and none of the low lvl missions or quest are so hard in my oppion to require additional skill points.
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 04:15 AM // 04:15   #18
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the fact that you may only use tomes of your primary prof
Unless something has changed in a recent update that I missed, you can use tomes of any profession with any profession.

When I wanted to grab an ele elite on my warrior for a particular build, I had no trouble.
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 04:18 AM // 04:18   #19
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I did not see mention of the fact that you may only use tomes of your primary prof. So if a assassin wants to learn flurry (Warrior Prof. skill) and is in need of a skill point no tome will aid him in that endeavor.
Thats completely incorrect, change secondary to corespond to the profession of the the tomb you want to use and it works.
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 10:02 AM // 10:02   #20
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