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Old Nov 27, 2006, 08:36 AM // 08:36   #381
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I havent had time to check over the past pages to see if this has been answered, but I have a small spot that I cant find a way to...

in the Consolate (sp) docks mission, theres a small building or something on the far east side of the mission area...
It looks almost like a 'guest room' for the docks and is connected to the entire dock cresent by a bridge.

I'm missing the southern border of that small building and I cant find a way out too it...
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 08:40 AM // 08:40   #382
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I havent had time to check over the past pages to see if this has been answered, but I have a small spot that I cant find a way to...

in the Consolate (sp) docks mission, theres a small building or something on the far east side of the mission area...
It looks almost like a 'guest room' for the docks and is connected to the entire dock cresent by a bridge.

I'm missing the southern border of that small building and I cant find a way out too it...
its a jail cell and you can fully explore it once you do the mission Pogahn Passage if you pick Margrid the Sly as a hero instead of Master Of Whispers.
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 08:49 AM // 08:49   #383
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its a jail cell and you can fully explore it once you do the mission Pogahn Passage if you pick Margrid the Sly as a hero instead of Master Of Whispers.
oh!
Thanks.
But what if I've picked The Master already...
Can I go back and grab Margrid later on and still do the mission?
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 09:09 AM // 09:09   #384
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Yes you can thats what i did
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 09:34 AM // 09:34   #385
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Please don't be a dick. You can check people's maps from the (M) Map, you simply use LuXa's method (also known as the difference method) as I describe very clearly in the OP.

I don't use this method myself, but from what I hear it is very effective in Elona.

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Note: At this time, I won't be comparing people's maps myself as I am still working on gathering relevant information for the thread, and comparing maps is extremely time consuming. Silent Vex has been doing some comparisons, but at the moment there isn't much support for it. So most of you guys will be on your own for a time, and no amount of bumping your posts is going to change that. If you see someone posting results for map comparisons, thhat would be a good time to post your own, otherwise you should reserve this thread for asking specific questions in order to help yourself find the areas you may be missing.

By all accounts, this is the easiest of all exploration titles to get, so if you follow the suggestions in the OP you shouldn't have too many problems.

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I'd rather not be a giant penis about this, but U Maps are far better to judge by. The method of tabbing back and forth works wonders. I'm also able to use your maps, and compare area by area just by staring at it. Tiny areas sometimes will jump out at me, and I'm pretty decent at catching them. As I said earlier, it's harder when you are at 99.9%

Anyways, I will try to help one by one from the list. Works is kicking my butt, so I don't have much time during the week. I'm doing this to help Livingston because I know how frustrating it can be to get stuck.
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 01:46 PM // 13:46   #386
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if your talking about the area that is mainly all sand u cannot fully explore it it is closed off so far that I know of here is a pic of tombs explored that I have and I have reached 100% http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...an6969/map.jpg

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Old Nov 27, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37   #387
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ARGH

This cartography is driving me potty.

I found tyria harder than cantha, but elona takes the prize.

How do u get inside the fortrss of jahai?

Tried from chantry of secrest side and from jahai bluffs.

All gates are closed!

I know this area has a few unfogable bits when compared to the 100% explored map aforementioned in th OP.

greatful if someone could help me out here apart from looking at my which i put up yesterday.

many thanks
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 02:42 PM // 14:42   #388
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I'd rather not be a giant penis about this, but U Maps are far better to judge by. The method of tabbing back and forth works wonders. I'm also able to use your maps, and compare area by area just by staring at it. Tiny areas sometimes will jump out at me, and I'm pretty decent at catching them. As I said earlier, it's harder when you are at 99.9%

Anyways, I will try to help one by one from the list. Works is kicking my butt, so I don't have much time during the week. I'm doing this to help Livingston because I know how frustrating it can be to get stuck.
The state of you being a penis or not doesn't really concern me at this point. As I said, I too prefer the U map method, but telling others that their maps can only be checked using it is simply untrue.

I have also found a few people who could find areas using LuXa's method that can't be detected using the U map method as the difference can only be seen in the zoomed out map and not in the U map. An example of this is the Jade Brotherhood base in Cantha near Budek Byway which when uncovered creates a line in the water that can only be seen in the zoomed out map.

Also as LuXa's difference method uses a program to find the spots rather than a human eye, you can check the entire map with the click of a button, and thus can find many spots on multiple people's map in a number of minutes. Thus even though the U map method is more exact and detailed, LuXa's is much more efficient and less time consuming.

Of course the best possible way to determine what someone is missing is to do LuXa's method first, then U map search for any additional spots that may have been missed.

However, since Elona is a lot easier to explore than Tyria and Cantha, you may not need any more areas than what you find with LuXa's method.

That being said, I do appreciate the time you are taking to check people’s maps. If you prefer to use the U map method, so be it. Ask people to post their U maps and that you would be happy to check them if they will, but you can’t use their zoomed out maps. Don’t insult people (even indirectly) though if they don’t do so. If they don’t want to post U maps for people who are taking their time to check their maps, then that’s their loss.

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Old Nov 27, 2006, 04:05 PM // 16:05   #389
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I just want to thank Livingston for his map.
I was stuck at 99,9% (yep), and after comparing his map to mine I got one final spot (there may have been more of them, but this is enough for me).

Again, many thanks.
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 06:23 PM // 18:23   #390
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Update!!!

The 3rd OP now contains all relevant information that has been provided so far on this thread in concern of achieving the Grandmaster Cartography title.

And congratulations to all of our new Cartographers!!
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 06:28 PM // 18:28   #391
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This is my first attempt at GMC, and I need a little help. I am currently at 99.4% of the map on a Paragon. I have finished the game and am a Protector of Elona. I spent my time hugging walls and ALT/TAB on 100% maps, and just today tried the "difference" method, but I just don't seem to have the eagle eye.

I'm GvG/PvP first but have found the quest for this title to be a great experience. I've burned out my eyes on this one. At this point I feel I need a helping hand from the pro's.

If you need any kick-back I would gladly pay 25k in-game if someone can work this through with me.

Here is my Full Map. I have the U maps also but imageshack is running very slow atm. I will have them available asap.

If you are interested in helping me, feel free to PM me. Thanks.

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Old Nov 27, 2006, 08:04 PM // 20:04   #392
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I'm the biggest n00b in the world.. Have 99,1 but can't make it thugh area 1 in the challenge mission in the desolation.. Gw.gamewiki says somthing about killing a person so the 600dmg man dies or goes away or somthing.. but cant find the right 1 to kill.. Have tried 8 times, and feel like a junkhead.. But i dont think the 3 more areas will make it to 100%, but i would like to clear them before i loook for the other small points around elonian..
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 08:17 PM // 20:17   #393
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2) How do I access the Fortress of Jahai?

You can only access the Fortress of Jahai by doing the Pogahn Passage mission. You may only receive this mission if you have Margrid the Sly in your party. Completing the Mysterious Message quest will take you to the Dejarin Estate. From here you will have to choose to take either Margrid the Sly or the Master of Whispers. If you choose Master of Whispers, you won't be able to get Margrid the Sly as a Hero until after game completion.
This is wrong. The area you go into for the Pogahn Passage mission is in fact Gandara, The Moon Fortress.
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 08:23 PM // 20:23   #394
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dwc89, Myster Grim, Trelon Burg, lapoire, elsa & Vital: I did the tab trick with your map. It was weird since it was zoomed out, and with the jpeg fuzz I wasn't sure about most of them (hence some question marks). If it helps, great, but I'm not making any promises.

Vital Marked
elsalamandra Marked
lapoire Marked
Trelon Burg Marked
Myster Grim Marked
dwc89 Marked
Vel Marked

cba: I used to think the same thing about the M maps, but I think they're alright for tabbing actually. See ^ up there.

Livingston: I've no idea what's up with my webspace, it seems only my gw folder is returning errors (and changing the name doesn't help). Here's the bmp's you requested, and another link for my full map. As you've hosted it yourself, I'll let you know if I update it again.

These were taken as fast as I could zoom out and hit the print screen button.
1600x1200
1280x1024
1024x768
1440x900

Full U Map

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Old Nov 27, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49   #395
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I am at 99.8 and going mad pleaseeeeeeeeeeee help.

My M map 1290 x 1024

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/4...imnf998gb7.jpg

My U maps also at 1290 x 1024 zoomed all the way out

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4294/gw056ac2.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3632/gw057vf3.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/49/gw058zs2.jpg
http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/2415/gw059no1.jpg
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/872/gw060eo7.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6967/gw061nk3.jpg
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/240/gw062ka2.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6152/gw063ex0.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1020/gw064em4.jpg
http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/2884/gw065sb3.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7203/gw066xl0.jpg
http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/1391/gw067iu6.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7596/gw068ju9.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/9961/gw069tq5.jpg
http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/4391/gw070fq5.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6475/gw071ud4.jpg
http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/6118/gw072kz6.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/145/gw073pm3.jpg
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http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9375/gw075yp3.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2356/gw076to4.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3457/gw077ei2.jpg
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 08:51 PM // 20:51   #396
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This is wrong. The area you go into for the Pogahn Passage mission is in fact Gandara, The Moon Fortress.
Well not all the way wrong, yes you can enter the explorable area but you can not get pass the gate unless you are in the mission.
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 09:56 PM // 21:56   #397
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Just a quick question: How much does the challenge mission give approxmately? And any hints for it, when only going for cartographer?
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 10:01 PM // 22:01   #398
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dwc89, Myster Grim, Trelon Burg, lapoire, elsa & Vital: I did the tab trick with your map. It was weird since it was zoomed out, and with the jpeg fuzz I wasn't sure about most of them (hence some question marks). If it helps, great, but I'm not making any promises.

Vital Marked
elsalamandra Marked
lapoire Marked
Trelon Burg Marked
Myster Grim Marked
dwc89 Marked

cba: I used to think the same thing about the M maps, but I think they're alright for tabbing actually. See ^ up there.

Livingston: I've no idea what's up with my webspace, it seems only my gw folder is returning errors (and changing the name doesn't help). Here's the bmp's you requested, and another link for my full map. As you've hosted it yourself, I'll let you know if I update it again.

These were taken as fast as I could zoom out and hit the print screen button.
1600x1200
1280x1024
1024x768
1440x900

Full U Map
Thank you Silent I appreciate the assistance in this matter. If it would help though i do have the original bit map. At any rate I'll give some of these places a shot.
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 10:01 PM // 22:01   #399
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How do u get inside the fortrss of jahai?

Tried from chantry of secrest side and from jahai bluffs.

All gates are closed!

I know this area has a few unfogable bits when compared to the 100% explored map aforementioned in th OP.
I thought my Jahai Fortress was foggier than the 100% map on this thread as well. I cleared it twice from both directions without getting it to look the same to me as it did on the map here. But, I have 100%. So I don't know if that's just because of the leeway in the title, or because zohpar's 100% map here somehow looks less foggy there for some odd reason, but if you're really stuck on it then you may find the same thing I did.
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 10:42 PM // 22:42   #400
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To everyone that has posted maps that I haven't looked at yet, here are my bare minimum requirements:
1024x768 M map @ level 10 jpeg compression (if compressing in photoshop)

recommended requirements:
1280x1024 M map .bmp

Please note that doing a jpeg compression in microsoft paint is approximately a 7 in photoshop (ie, it's crap). If you're using paint, or if you're not 100% sure it is a high quality jpg you're better off just posting the original .bmp screenshot or a .png.

If you have a U map, that's even better, but I'm not going to stitch 14 screenshots together.

Specifically...
Isft: too low quality, post a .bmp
darktemplar32489: it looks like you put your U map on imageshack, which will resize it to an unusable size. See the requirements above

To anyone that posted before page 17: pm me a link to a map meeting the above requirements. I don't have time to go looking through the archives.

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