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Old Dec 11, 2007, 05:40 PM // 17:40   #41
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Well after almost 5 hours (3 hours on just the last floor), me and a guildie finished Shards of Orr in HM.
He ran a OF tank and I went as a smiting tank (the code is: OQMT44oSRaS8U0kAloeKTbhQmAA).
For heroes we had:
WoH healer
2 SF eles
Bonder
2 Signet smiters

Fendi took close to 30-40 minutes to kill.
your team build is why it took so long

2 sf eles=useless in GW:EN
even 2 hero smiters=useless they do not run smite builds well
the OF tank is Semi useless but can be usefull if you swap 1 skill for arcane mimicry and have your friend take pain inverter+ursan the other 6 skills are your choice. just get up agro with of tank then when your team moves in to kill Mimicry the ursan and help do damg.

Im not sure what other set ups you had but from the looks of it
5 out of 8 of your party was more of a burden then a help.
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Old Dec 12, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22   #42
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your team build is why it took so long

2 sf eles=useless in GW:EN
even 2 hero smiters=useless they do not run smite builds well
the OF tank is Semi useless but can be usefull if you swap 1 skill for arcane mimicry and have your friend take pain inverter+ursan the other 6 skills are your choice. just get up agro with of tank then when your team moves in to kill Mimicry the ursan and help do damg.

Im not sure what other set ups you had but from the looks of it
5 out of 8 of your party was more of a burden then a help.
Couple of things here:
1) We were trying to come up with a non-UB method. It worked, albeit it took a long time.
2) One of the reasons it took a long time is because of bad pulling. If we did a better job pulling it wouldn't have taken so long.
3) SF's aren't "useless" in GWEN as you claim. They're only useless against Destroyers since they can't burn (and have a fire resistance). I would've liked my buddy to run two more signets smiters, but he didn't have the skills unlocked, and his SF's are generally pretty good. So unless they added in Destroyers since we did this, then they're gonna work. Not the best choice I'll grant you, but you work with whatcha got.
4) Your plan.......lacks something. From what I've gathered is that you have a OF tank with [skill]Arcane Mimicry[/skill] and then you "steal" UB off of another tank. So....lets think about this one-unless we got an elementalist to run OF, Arcane Mimicry would be useless! And even if we did get an ele to run OF, please read cafefully the skill description for UB and you'll notice something. That's right-it strips enchantments! So having an OF go UB is...well...kinda silly.

I understand the nature of your post was to provide us with insight as to what we did wrong-but realize that we know what we did wrong and if we were to do it again-we wouldn't do it this way. In fact Nighthawkeye gave a very nice post on how to do this the "right" way.

If you wanna laugh at us for taking 5 hours-go ahead-most of my guildies already did. But if you're gonna give advice, make sure you know what you're saying.
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Old Dec 17, 2007, 12:26 PM // 12:26   #43
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I have do it Shards 600+smiter....and 8 monks

6smiters 2Hb-...spikes are awesome...1..2..3..echo+Ray of Judgment....

2sec each group
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Old Dec 17, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27   #44
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I hate this dungeon with a passion. Nothing like a group of 4 wizards that can spam aftershock to their (lack of) heart's content.
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Old Dec 18, 2007, 09:18 PM // 21:18   #45
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Beat it last night with H/H and no consumables. No way am I ever going back there again.
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