Curse

SotiCoto · Sep 11, 2007, 08:38 AM // 08:38

My girlfriend swore yesterday that she would NEVER speak badly of Paragons again. I'm not surprised... given what happened.

Me and my heroes: General Morgahn, Hayda and Dunkoro.... grouped up with a PuG team to do the G.O.L.E.M mission yesterday. The Monk on the opposing team told me to kick my heroes... but the team leader let me keep them. My team took the North golem while theirs took the East golem...

For what it is worth... my time wiped out our supply of Destroyers without a hint of trouble.... their team eventually wiped (their monk was the first to go), though they held out long enough for the East golem to survive.... and then things got strange.
A lot of Destroyers had gathered over the other side by the time I'd cleared my lot and got over there. I killed a few of them but ended up dying. Hayda and Dunkoro ended up dying too... Two of the PuGs called for a restart...

But Morgahn wasn't having any of it.

I have no bleeding idea how he managed it..... but General Morgahn was left behind in a solo-standoff with several Destroyers for quite a few minutes. I wasn't even controlling him ...
After a while the Golems joined in and helped beat the group of Destroyers down and I ordered Morgahn to res someone. Naturally he brought Dunkoro back... and between the two of them they brought back the entire party. We went on to finish the rest of the mission without a hitch.

Seriously though.... both my girlfriend and I have a newfound respect for General Morgahn. He is quite seriously hardcore... Official.
[ And if for whatever reason anyone wants the bizarre custom build I gave him then I'm more than willing to share. ]

Redfeather1975 · Sep 11, 2007, 08:53 AM // 08:53

Can you post or PM me his build Soti?
I really like Morghan's kickass no-nonsense attitude, yet I haven't been very good at making paragon builds.

Spazzer · Sep 11, 2007, 08:56 AM // 08:56

You were defending the easier split. You have Oola with you on the North side, wheras Gadd defends the East side.

Gadd uses Iron Mist.

Etta · Sep 11, 2007, 08:58 AM // 08:58

I've been using 3 paragons for awhile since GW:EN came out, 5-7 if some guildies want to team up. 2 spear commanders, defend & attack buff, 1 motivator for minor healing and ng & hex support, the rest of the team can be anything really.

The defend is really solid with ToF, Tntf, stand your ground, watch yourself, save yourself on all the time. Offend is pretty good as well with a pair of UG warder, switch out any burning skill for something like anthem of weakness when fighting the destroyers.

Ferret · Sep 11, 2007, 08:59 AM // 08:59

Yes, can we have your paragon build please?

undeadgun · Sep 11, 2007, 09:00 AM // 09:00

i think all heros AI has improved beside zhed.... i was using jora as a hammer warrior hero, we both are Earthshaker, aftershock AoE KD kind. after a few runs in Temple of damned, i found out that Jora is so smart lol it is like I KD one foe, she immeditely follow an Aftershock or Crushing blow, every single time, i KD a foe she follows a combo, i sometime cant even follow hers KD, i am also very impressed on General too, he always a good addition of a team buffer

SotiCoto · Sep 11, 2007, 09:14 AM // 09:14

Sure...
If you guys want the build then I'll post it here.... but I warn you: I'm fairly sure it isn't anything too special on its own. I made it primarily to support and synergise with Hayda's Motivation build (and my own Assassin's inability to hit through blocking skills at the moment)...
Anyway.... Morgahn's build... from memory...

P/W
Leadership : 12 (9+1+2)
Command : 13 (12+1)
Spear Mastery : 10 (9+1) {because my Morgahn has a Req.10 spear}
Tactics : 5

Aggressive Refrain [Leadership]
"Go for the Eyes!" [Command]
Anthem of Guidance {E} [Command]
"Watch Yourself!" [Tactics]
"Never Surrender!" [Command]
"Stand your Ground!" [Command]
Leader's Comfort [Leadership]
Signet of Return [Leadership]

Any Spear will do... though Furious mod is advised. Req.9 or Req.10 ideally.
Shield can be just about anything too. Mine uses his default Command shield with +25 health and no more.

Armour is all Radiant. Major Vigor on chestplate, Major Leadership on headgear, Minor of all other Paragon runes on other armour (I have one for Motivation though I don't use it, so you could replace with Vitae or Attunement).

That'd be it.
I am starting to think the reason Morgahn stayed alive so well was due to the presence of other allied NPCs and Golems in the area... He was spamming his three low-adrenaline skills like nobody's business, so presumably he was recharging his energy quite a bit enough to keep healing and pumping his defenses.

Psychology · Sep 11, 2007, 09:19 AM // 09:19

Morgahn still sounds godly now,ty for build.

Goes to para thread.

RTSFirebat · Sep 11, 2007, 09:23 AM // 09:23

In that case post Hayda's Motivation build as well then please

SotiCoto · Sep 11, 2007, 09:42 AM // 09:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

In that case post Hayda's Motivation build as well then please

Technically, I was using a slightly tweaked version of Lordhelmos's old triad build until I changed Morgahn.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10081126

That is the original thread.

I made Hayda the Motivation henchie as shown there with a few tweaks... and Dunkoro a precise clone of that build... then brought in Morgahn's new build as mentioned earlier to replace Margrid...

To the best of my memory... the build I use on Hayda is:

P/W

Leadership: 10 (Minor)
Spear Mastery: 9 (Minor)
Motivation: 14 (Major Rune + Headgear)
Command: 9 (Minor)
Tactics: 1

Aggressive Refrain
"Go for the Eyes!"
"Watch yourself!"
Song of Restoration {E}
Ballad of Restoration
Energising Finale
Aria of Zeal
Leader's Comfort

Req.9 Spear. I haven't got any mods on it.
Req.10 purple Motivation shield. Nothing special.
Full Radiant Armour, Major Vigor on chestplate, Major Motivation on headpiece, Minor Paragon runes on everything else.

And true enough.... no Res. Given that I found that the team build I use has... as a group of 8.... NEVER DIED... I figured I could free up one little res slot.

My full team in GW:EN is:

My char (Assassin with Moebius Death-Blossom spam, Critical Agility etc)
General Morgahn (P/W Command)
Hayda (P/W Motivation)
Dunkoro (Mo/Me Prot)
Talon Silverwing
Mhenlo
Kim
Herta

And I swear it is the best I've ever used. We can rampage through mixed groups of dinosaurs without a scratch... not a single death... where before we faced wipe....
It can take a while since it is primarily defensive and I am the lead obliterator of enemies... but targetting the Tyrannus in the middle of a mixed Dino group and laying down the 33% IAS Moebius+Death Blossom spam on him will quite effectively obliterate most of the group... leaving us just the stragglers to deal with. Only the Raptors pose even the slightest inconvenience... and Morgahn spams his elite enough that we kill them without too much hassle.
Anything else?
Simians?
Frogs?
Walkover.

Leonhart · Sep 11, 2007, 12:48 PM // 12:48

I have to agree with the other post, it was very likely you were defending the easier side, as the other side gets more swarms of destroyers.

I mean I did it with heroes/henchman just running back to what ever was being under attack, not too difficult.

Onarik Amrak · Sep 11, 2007, 12:59 PM // 12:59

It's not even that hard, I did it with heroes and henchies.

But having a single para stand up to them is pretty funny lol.

blackjoker4215 · Sep 11, 2007, 01:04 PM // 13:04

I did not know you could do that mission with another party. I just did it last night with hench. But Paragons FTW!

Lourens · Sep 11, 2007, 03:54 PM // 15:54

I like my paragon an hayda :P

But morgahn is just plain ugly xD

Slidje · Sep 11, 2007, 04:00 PM // 16:00

morgan always dies last

R!ghteous Ind!gnation · Sep 11, 2007, 04:19 PM // 16:19

I use myself as a command/leadership GFTE spammer, Morghan as Motivation, and Hayda as Tactics/leadership with an MM bomber (or SF nuker when i knew i wouldnt face destroyers... not one death while playing gwen in for entire team (using only this setup and henchys)

SotiCoto · Sep 11, 2007, 04:24 PM // 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonhart

I have to agree with the other post, it was very likely you were defending the easier side, as the other side gets more swarms of destroyers.

I mean I did it with heroes/henchman just running back to what ever was being under attack, not too difficult.

Honestly, I won't took that side because the person in charge told me I should.
If I'd taken the East and they the North.... they might not have wiped. My Hero team was clearly tougher than the team on the East golem kiln.

But in any case, that wasn't the point. I went over to the other side eventually anyway..... and that was where Morgahn made his stand and single-handedly managed to avert a total wipe.

GloryFox · Sep 11, 2007, 04:25 PM // 16:25

I don't see why people are so suprised Paragons rock in general.

onerabbit · Sep 11, 2007, 05:05 PM // 17:05

i never used morgan =o .. might go cap some elites and give him a pop ..

nice story =D

Government Flu · Sep 11, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31

The only time I've ever used Morgie (outside of the required mission) is fighting Abaddon so he could help Dunkoro soak up the massive condition spamming. Ever since then, he's just been too dazed to really do anything...