Curse

Siadena · Feb 28, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00

Echo, mending - heal sig - hoooraaa! will pwn anything!
lol
Seriously though, they have changed shiro's reactions/skilling a few times over the last year+. So, what once was easy and worked a few months ago, yup, he either skills differently, runs out of aoe more quickly, etc. Heck, doing it alone with h/h, he never used to banish the hench, now he does. Either way, yup, there's many a quick builds/set ups that still work - but just to help you sleep better - yes, he has changed, it's not just you.

English Warrior · Feb 28, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06

Spoil Victor, Pain Inverter, tanking skill=Shiro takes a dirt nap

Sunyavadin · Feb 29, 2008, 02:14 PM // 14:14

Even before Pain Inverter, Myself and Master of Whispers could take him down within 12 seconds of the cutscene ending as SS/SV...

I should try it again sometime now I have even more skills to break my personal record with...

voldermord · Mar 04, 2008, 09:01 AM // 09:01

lol..
just did him hm ytd..34secs..
i was doing it wif 1 more war human and kept doing NM :P ldr kept forgetting to chg..
anyway..
me(monk) <--glyph, aegis, heal party & celestial..all ya need..run to corner..
SV necro hero
warrior<--ldr SoS, pure defense skills
Warrior hench
Warrior Hench
Warrior hero<--wild blow+ defense
Necr0 hench
Necro hench

Pwnt..3times NM in less than 4mins total..
1time HM..and he died faster in HM o.O

You Look Grim · Mar 15, 2008, 04:55 AM // 04:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa Hudgens Ftw

Where do you mean . in Gates of madness Or in last mission in factions ?

well considering the post was made in the canthan explorer's league..

anywho make sure you have some way to get rid of his stances, because most of his life stealing relies on stances.

MasterSasori · Mar 16, 2008, 10:25 PM // 22:25

Remove battle scars with stance-ending attack, use pain inverter/spoil victor, have only one monk (yes only 1), mass attack with high damage.

This should beat the living daylights out of him.

Trinity Fire Angel · Mar 17, 2008, 12:44 AM // 00:44

you might have just been grouping with a noob group. do this with people, not heros and hench. you need the Celestial skill and someone with Wildblow/strike to cancel his stances. Oh, and a blind bot ele. FTW. hardmode in 30secs. easy.

we did it with 1 nuke ele, 1 blind bot, 1 warrior and 1 sin. i forget who else, cause it doesn;t really matter. 1 Sin with Moebius is enuff

llsektorll · Mar 17, 2008, 11:37 PM // 23:37

assassin solo hm with 3 heros.... and he is set up as a critical flashing blades assassin

Kagawa Kaze · Apr 13, 2008, 10:56 PM // 22:56

The celestial skills are only granted to human players or henchies though, right? Anyone got a good 1 human player + 3 heroes build suggestion?

Belonah15 · Apr 17, 2008, 08:15 AM // 08:15

Shiro is hard to kill if you are not a Assassin, and you are using H/H. Shiro also seems to be buffed lately, a lot of the advice from a few months back do not work anymore. The only people I see that has much success with getting Masters are Assassins.

Heroes do not get the celestial skill, but henches do - and trust them to use it at the start of the fight, which is the worst timing possible.

I have tried various builds other than using Assassin, and I found that a Warrior H/H group seems to do better. 2 Warrior Heros with interrupts, a Monk hero with spike healing and Aegis, 2 warrior henches, and the 2 necro henches. Keep your own celestial skill to use when he does the Meditation - if you allow this to go for more than 15 seconds you can be guaranteed a party wipe. Keep your H/H target locked on Shiro, while you take care of the banishments.

My Ele seems to do better than my other characters due to Blinding Surge keeping Shiro almost perma blind, and Celestial Storm seems to hurt a bit more (perhaps just my perception).

Lastly, one of the latest buffs to his AI seems to be his dislike for monks. He seems to go for Mhenlo first, then your other monks. He kills Mhenlo then banishes the other monks. So do not take hench monks, and try to keep Shiro off Mhenlo.

upier · Apr 17, 2008, 09:16 AM // 09:16

Just did the guy a few days ago - and I actually had issues with him.
I think it took me some 2 times or so to actually take him down for the first time - and then an additional 3+ times to take him down the second time (that's what happens if you decide to just get one piece of the armour and then after trying it on see that the whole set makes much more sense :S).
I was running Empathy/SV.
My necro was running Enfeeble/SS/Barbs.
I ran all the physicals I could.
And yet we kept getting trashed!

I've done him in HM and I've done him in NM on pretty much all the chars I can think off - and he never was such a pain.

Have no idea what that was about really ...
Maybe he's just seeking revenge for being trashed all the time by being a total pain in the ass for some random dudes.

BigDave · Apr 17, 2008, 06:29 PM // 18:29

I'm pretty sure he's been buffed somehow in the last few months. Took my Rit there to get masters in NM/HM with the usual H/H setup. SV, SS, empathy, etc... hero monk so the monk won't be banished. He seems to activate impossible odds much earlier than he used to and once he gets low on HP he seems to do far more damage than he once did. I wiped several times and ended up having to get 2 Ele guildies to join in with an echo CS chain to take him down.

Never had a problem with him with any other character.

Moloch Vein · Apr 17, 2008, 06:42 PM // 18:42

A small piece of advice is to use as few characters as possible. This way his Meditation will heal him for less (and if you're filling up your party with ineffectual henchies they won't damage him enough to cut down the time he's in it enough to compensate.)

Did this in HM with my N and three heroes, and with my A and two heroes. Can't really understand how people manage to get masters in HM on this one using ONLY one character (A) though... it takes too long time for me.