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Numa Pompilius · Jul 18, 2008, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Can someone tell me a good build for vanquishing Tahnnakai?
I've vanquished all of Tyria, and most of Elona and Cantha, but Tahnnakai is the only area where I've actually DP'd out.

The problem is the Jade Knights groups there. I don't know what spike-skill they use, but they instakill my entire team even with Shelter up. Ploff dead, in two seconds. These non-boss jades are far harder for me than Molotov Rocktail was in hardmode - at least against him Shelter works.

I've so far tried the standard techniques: pulling very far to see if I can separate the jades from eachother, spacing out the team, precasting Ward Against Elements and Shelter, and bringing a tricked-out shutdown mesmer. Ploff dead.

As I don't know what skill they're using it's hard to come up with a good defence.
So, any ideas? Apart from using consumables or teaming with someone who's got the "see the emperor" quest, that is.

theonetheonlybruce · Jul 18, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28

are you infused if not thats probably your problem

GWEXTREEMFAN · Jul 18, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33

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Originally Posted by theonetheonlybruce

are you infused if not thats probably your problem

he vq'd all tyria

i doubt thats possible without infusion....

Numa Pompilius · Jul 18, 2008, 11:39 PM // 23:39

They're Jade Brotherhood, not Jade Armors; they don't have Spectral Agony.

The annoying part is that I don't have problems with the Jade Brotherhood anywhere else; I've vanquished all other areas where they are without raising a sweat. Something is different in Tahnnakai, but I don't know what.

Murmel · Jul 19, 2008, 12:17 AM // 00:17

From what I've experienced.. Knights usually come in groups up to 3.
They rush separate targets and use [Triple Chop] and [Cyclone axe]...

Does'nt suprise me that it would wipe a couple of chars in a party since several will get hit multiple times...

Do the rt with [Shelter] have 12+ in Spawning? cause that is crucial if using that ritual.

Edit: They don't have any Jade rts that put [Ancestor's Rage] on them?

Chthon · Jul 19, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Something is different in Tahnnakai, but I don't know what.

Party compositions are different than other Jade Bros. areas. Double ritualists, double eles. Double rits means it's a lot harder to score those first kills, plus double ancestor's spike. Double eles means double dragon stomp spike on top of the double ancestor's spike.

Charlotte the Harlot · Jul 19, 2008, 01:32 AM // 01:32

basically just keep them as subdued as you can. Using aegis guardian or SoD are all decent ideas, bring sources of blind weakness and cripple to greatly reduce the effectiveness of the knights enfeebling blood, a ebon dust build, eruption, you move like a dwarf, deep freeze, or other similar skills can all be good. could all be good choice. If you can knocklock them with great dwarf weapon or earth shaker they wont be able to do much either.

theonetheonlybruce · Jul 19, 2008, 01:42 AM // 01:42

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

They're Jade Brotherhood, not Jade Armors; they don't have Spectral Agony.

The annoying part is that I don't have problems with the Jade Brotherhood anywhere else; I've vanquished all other areas where they are without raising a sweat. Something is different in Tahnnakai, but I don't know what.

i saw jade and though the jade armor not the brotherhood

Numa Pompilius · Jul 19, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

Yeah three knights, two mesmers, two rits, two or three eles with Dragon Stomp.

I think it was the rits buffing the knights which caused the insta-wipes.

I cheesed out and did the vanquish with a bonder who'd bond my warrior. Once I had the attention of the knights I let the rest of the group move up to the edge of the aggro bubble - the brotherhood casters would run past me and attack them but the knights would stay with me, and without the rit-buffed knights triple-chopping my backline my healers could keep up.

mistokibbles · Jul 19, 2008, 04:22 AM // 04:22

When I was vanquishing, Ebon Dust Aura did wonders if you have nightfall. For the Jade Brotherhood, I remember i had 2 n/rt healers and a woh hyrbid monk.

Stupid Shizno · Aug 02, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

because jade armor are in canthan? OP said tahnnakai....nowhere near tyria

N1ghtstalker · Aug 02, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03

their ele's have [dragon's stomp]
seriously pain when you're bunched up
and yes their ritu's have [ancestor's rage]

Shady S · Aug 04, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Tahnnakia Temple sneaks up without warning . . . I powered through there with dp to get the vanquish using sabway hero's. The Ebon Dust Aura suggestion is fantastic.

jhu · Aug 05, 2008, 03:19 AM // 03:19

if they haven't fixed it, you can pair up with someone who has hardmode unlocked and has that emperor quest. that way you only have to kill two creatures to vanquish. vanquishing's annoying enough that you really should take every advantage you get.

MercenaryKnight · Aug 05, 2008, 07:48 AM // 07:48

No it isn't fixed, as a matter of fact if you check the services thread if you are having difficulty I vanquish the area using that quest for only 1k.

Rothan Celt · Aug 05, 2008, 10:52 AM // 10:52

You know this is possible to do this vanq with only killing 2 foes. I was lucky and a member of my guild asked everyone if they wanted to come along. Its very simple all you need is a party member with the primary quest "Meeting with the emporer"and then all the jade knights do not spawn. Finding the correct location is hard but eventualy you will come across 2 Temple guardians guarding this tunnel when you see them drag with a longbow kill them and the VQ is over.

Services threads should provide the info. As for h/h VQ i would suggest Ebon dust aura + MM hero + PB mesmer +monkey of course if your not a ranger necro monk or mesmer then adapt. I would not suggest the triple necro team as they use many hexs and jade brother hood mesmers spam Hex removal. So PI + AP do not work effectivaly. "Dnt trip" does work very well as the Mages use Dragons stomp and they often chain this simply using this skill would break there chain of KDs giving the healers a chance to.... guess what? heal

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Tahnn...orable_area%29
^ more info on how to VQ by killing 2 dudes

isildorbiafra · Aug 05, 2008, 10:57 AM // 10:57

The cure for this disease is called pain inverter. Cast; body block, tank, kaboom! If they come in groups add Spitefull Spirit....multi kaboom! If your lazy take Sabway. I blazed through the city in just 1 day! Imo Ursan Blessing is only a threath to the game and imba cause its used for fast farm uw/fow and point farming runs; and discriminates players that dont have it. The true and most imba skill in the game is none other than PI! I never left home without it. I say left....cause i owned all continents with it.

Numa Pompilius · Aug 05, 2008, 04:40 PM // 16:40

1) Yeah, I know about the Meet The Emperor exploit. I've vanquished all of Tyria and now also all of Cantha with heroes & henches, without exploits or consumables. I think I cheesed out enough by bringing a Bonder in Tahnnakai.

2) Isildorbiafra: Pain Inverter is great against single enemies doing AoE damage, like the Great Destroyer, but that's not the situation here.

If anyone else is having trouble with Tahnnakai Temple explorable, the solution is enchantments. There are no enchant-removing mobs in the area.

Rothan Celt · Aug 06, 2008, 10:16 AM // 10:16

[QUOTE=isildorbiafra]The cure for this disease is called pain inverter. Cast; body block, tank, kaboom! /[QUOTE]

It works but is not totaly uber with the jade brother hood seeing as the mesmers spam hex removal and there is really not enogh AoE dmg for it to be uber as it is in certain areas. Upon jade brother hood kights however it might do a fair amount of dmg.

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

1) Yeah, I know about the Meet The Emperor exploit. I've vanquished all of Tyria and now also all of Cantha with heroes & henches, without exploits or consumables. I think I cheesed out enough by bringing a Bonder in Tahnnakai. .

isildorbiafra · Aug 06, 2008, 10:40 AM // 10:40

[QUOTE=Rothan Celt][QUOTE=isildorbiafra]The cure for this disease is called pain inverter. Cast; body block, tank, kaboom! /

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It works but is not totaly uber with the jade brother hood seeing as the mesmers spam hex removal and there is really not enogh AoE dmg for it to be uber as it is in certain areas. Upon jade brother hood kights however it might do a fair amount of dmg.

It does not only work with AoE damage. The point is the jade knights use tipple chop & cyclone axe; mega damage dealers. PI deals 140% back to the dealer for 10 seconds! A jade knight striking multiple tagets that way will go down in less than 2 seconds. Tell me of another skill that can kill a warrior so fast. PI rocks!