Curse

neo the tyrant · Sep 19, 2007, 06:21 PM // 18:21

/agree
IM pissed at that, i just got to mallyx thismorning and i cant get a pug no one is there.
A-NET change this please, make it 10-12 people group fpr mission =D

Effendi Westland · Sep 20, 2007, 08:49 AM // 08:49

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Originally Posted by neo the tyrant

/agree
IM pissed at that, i just got to mallyx thismorning and i cant get a pug no one is there.
A-NET change this please, make it 10-12 people group fpr mission =D

I fail to understand how making it 10-12 people would make it easier to find a group in an empty outpost.

Zabe · Sep 21, 2007, 12:43 PM // 12:43

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Originally Posted by Effendi Westland

I fail to understand how making it 10-12 people would make it easier to find a group in an empty outpost.

Well, 3 players + rest heroes, the mass of heroes would replace the AI loss of them compared to pugs.

Ghryphon · Sep 21, 2007, 01:14 PM // 13:14

/agree
increase group size or reduce the impossibility of beating him, either way, fix this

Snow Bunny · Sep 21, 2007, 02:20 PM // 14:20

Guys. It's very very doable now. Just rip Robs build and you're good.

Load up on paras, don't take enchants.
Take your SS and Kurz/Lux skills.

GG. He's little challenge now. TNTF is so grossly overpowerful it to me is more potent than pre-nerf SoL.

thor thunder · Sep 21, 2007, 06:06 PM // 18:06

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Guys. It's very very doable now. Just rip Robs build and you're good.

Load up on paras, don't take enchants.
Take your SS and Kurz/Lux skills.

GG. He's little challenge now. TNTF is so grossly overpowerful it to me is more potent than pre-nerf SoL.

yeah we all know its do able with those builds.. but for ppl like me/other's that dont play 24/7 and grind are asses off to get enof kuz/lux to get/use those skills is stupid.
the fact that only ONE set of builds work against this guy..is dum enof.
my point is that it is stupid that you have to either have played ten zillion hours to get the factions and experiance and skills or a GLiTCH to beat him is just pathetic.
and after ALL that work it will count for nothing cause after you get your cute little tormented weapon it goes down the trash when GW2 comes out and at that point beating Mallyx counts for VERY VERY little. might as well start saving up for those destroyer weps there the only ones that make a differnece but i dout it will actualy do much for your game play in GW2 cause then there would just be no balance.. but we all know how good Anet is at balance..

i tryed it ONCE and found my self in Raven/Cathedrel next day... never to try it again.

also like what the hell are assasins gana do? thro rocks at him..? anti ench makes derv/assasins next to useless.

Saddly enof bosses like this make me want to start paying 15$ a mounth for WoW at least there bosses give stuff!. besides the quest what else does mallxy give..?

yesitsrob · Sep 21, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24

I'm pretty sure shan didn't use Luxon/Kurzick skills...

You don't _need_ them at all.

Like really.. Save Yourselves armor bonus only has any relevance if things hit you in the first place... and considering with none pve skills you can get a decent 25% block rate without enchants via passive defense and +24 armor vs elements. Not to forget you can actively prot things with Weapon of Warding and the fact things don't actually hit you that hard unless you enrage them anyway.

It's not rocket science.

I can't remember what we ran 3rd time but it was pretty random.

Snow Bunny · Sep 21, 2007, 07:01 PM // 19:01

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Originally Posted by thor thunder

yeah we all know its do able with those builds.. but for ppl like me/other's that dont play 24/7 and grind are asses off to get enof kuz/lux to get/use those skills is stupid.
the fact that only ONE set of builds work against this guy..is dum enof.
my point is that it is stupid that you have to either have played ten zillion hours to get the factions and experiance and skills or a GLiTCH to beat him is just pathetic.
and after ALL that work it will count for nothing cause after you get your cute little tormented weapon it goes down the trash when GW2 comes out and at that point beating Mallyx counts for VERY VERY little. might as well start saving up for those destroyer weps there the only ones that make a differnece but i dout it will actualy do much for your game play in GW2 cause then there would just be no balance.. but we all know how good Anet is at balance..

i tryed it ONCE and found my self in Raven/Cathedrel next day... never to try it again.

also like what the hell are assasins gana do? thro rocks at him..? anti ench makes derv/assasins next to useless.

Saddly enof bosses like this make me want to start paying 15$ a mounth for WoW at least there bosses give stuff!. besides the quest what else does mallxy give..?

Please, use real english next time. It helps. Don't say stuff like enof, gana, or shortened english.

There are several things you can do against him. Paragons just work really well against him, and so does SY! and TNTF!

Mallyx gives you gemstones. And a green item.

And yes, Dervs and basically useless and so are assassins.
But then again....when have they ever actually been desired in PuGS or missions? :O

I SileniuS I · Sep 21, 2007, 09:02 PM // 21:02

can anyone maybe post a build for mallyx? if it isnt so much trouble, for paragons at least.

tnx in advance

Effendi Westland · Sep 21, 2007, 09:24 PM // 21:24

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

And yes, Dervs and basically useless and so are assassins.
But then again....when have they ever actually been desired in PuGS or missions? :O

Very useless indeed. 6/8 dervish skills. Assassin will also work (moebius, death blossom).

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Originally Posted by thor thunder

yeah we all know its do able with those builds.. but for ppl like me/other's that dont play 24/7 and grind are asses off to get enof kuz/lux to get/use those skills is stupid.

I'm pretty sure Racthoh has only rank 4 or 5 in Kurzick, which only increases SS with 1 second compared to rank 1. I'm also pretty sure someone posted a screenshot in the thread using hero paragons, so they didn't have access to pve skills like TNTF.

Squishy ftw · Sep 21, 2007, 09:28 PM // 21:28

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Originally Posted by I SileniuS I

can anyone maybe post a build for mallyx? if it isnt so much trouble, for paragons at least.

tnx in advance

You can find plenty of the paragon builds used by people that did mallyx if you check a few pages back.

Racthoh · Sep 21, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Only rank 4 indeed, were I to grind to get the whole 5 seconds I could maintain the 100 AL with Focused Anger and For Great Justice!.

Now we need a picture of an assassin by the corpse, and the world can be happy.

I SileniuS I · Sep 22, 2007, 07:15 AM // 07:15

so, 2 paragons have defensive anthem and 1 has focused anger or is the build slightly different? looked at older builds but never have the three paras on display together

Pericles · Sep 22, 2007, 09:26 AM // 09:26

Hey,
this thread is awesome and because i only have my ranger in the gate of anguish, i'd like to know what exactly is a ranger's 'role' in the team, a build would be nice as well. I've already seen a few screens here where a ranger was in the team and i'm interested in what build he ran so if anyone could do me the favor of giving me the build+info that would be very nice

thank you in advance.

Effendi Westland · Sep 24, 2007, 07:49 AM // 07:49

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Originally Posted by I SileniuS I

so, 2 paragons have defensive anthem and 1 has focused anger or is the build slightly different? looked at older builds but never have the three paras on display together

Paragon basics:

2-3 attack skills + aggressive refrain = good constant damage. With the limited amount of paragon attacks that do not inflict conditions available it's not a tough choice what attacks to bring. Enemies use block stances so wild throw on one paragon can help.

This leaves you 4 !! skills that can be very flexible and depend heavily on the team. Add "Go for the eyes", Anthem of Envy and the damage increases. I think we used 1 copy of anthem of envy and 2 x "Go for the eys". You still have plenty flexibility left and I don't think anybody who has done this has used the exact same paragon builds. We had a warder so we took one copy of defensive anthem, had the save yourself spammer take focussed anger and the last paragon had anthem of fury. On our first run I think we had a paragon with expel hexes intead of anthem of fury. We had one of our paragon use motivation shouts and finale's as we were lacking healing. But all this depends on your team setup, with an infuriating heat ranger focussed anger is redundant.

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Originally Posted by Pericles

Hey,
this thread is awesome and because i only have my ranger in the gate of anguish, i'd like to know what exactly is a ranger's 'role' in the team, a build would be nice as well. I've already seen a few screens here where a ranger was in the team and i'm interested in what build he ran so if anyone could do me the favor of giving me the build+info that would be very nice

thank you in advance.

If you want to tackle DoA with pugs you will probably need to conform to the cookie-cutter build in order to get decent teams. The wiki-build lists Obsy warrior, 2 x SF ele, SS necro, BiP necro, HB monk, SB monk, Bonder monk, however do not be despaired if your class falls out of this list. Ritualists can take a nukers role, Mesmers can play SS, Paragons can sub for HB in certain areas, SB in others (tho the role of SB is then replaced by additional healing) and any class can obsy-tank.Rangers in your case can perform the role of BiP (blood is power, blood ritual, symbioses, edge of extinction, brambles - have a 55 hp armor set, +20% longer enchantments weapon/staff also very usefull).

As for Mallyx and our teams in the other areas we used either a barrage ranger, an infuriating heat ranger (with either wards or additional damage), depended mostly on if we had a ritualist player available.

gerg-nad · Sep 27, 2007, 06:28 PM // 18:28

Congrats on the Mallyx win and better yet on getting a team together in DOA. Since GWEN has come out and the new DOA cookie cutter builds, DOA has died. Last time I looked there were about 5 people at the Gate of Anguish.

I have like two full gemsets I have yet to cash and 3 more toons (my tank completed it, see earlier post) yet to finish Mallyx (Necro, Ele, and Monk), but it is very difficult to find a team (not to mention a proper team). Mallyx now is not the issue with the builds, really, its the 18 groups ahead of Mallyx. There the armor protection skills, high HP and DPS, and not enraging everything is helpful.

AlienFromBeyond · Sep 27, 2007, 11:06 PM // 23:06

I do not look forward to doing DoA now for the statue, because the place is deserted now. And only 2 other people in my alliance expressed interest in doing it =/.

Racthoh · Oct 01, 2007, 06:17 AM // 06:17

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Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond

I do not look forward to doing DoA now for the statue, because the place is deserted now. And only 2 other people in my alliance expressed interest in doing it =/.

What's wrong with 5 heroes?

Okay so, consumables are dumb:

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/2...foundrymt8.jpg

This one would've been faster if we weren't idiots and realized we had a monk hero instead of something that would've actually been useful. Also only used one of the consumables, the stupidly broken Essence of Celerity:
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/7899/lolcityhf7.jpg

Basically if you have people who are somewhat interested in doing DoA, get some consumables and blow their socks off when everything becomes a joke. We're estimating we can do all four zones in about four hours depending on how well we can handle Ravenheart Gloom since that place is the only one we struggle with currently. Really have to tailor our build to that area.

Faer · Oct 01, 2007, 10:10 AM // 10:10

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

We're estimating we can do all four zones in about four hours

Or maybe less, if I do something other than mash the LoD button repeatedly until the end of eternity.

LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD WHY IS NOTHING DYING LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD LoD

/sigh

I blame Rob for the Dunkoro thing. Stupid monk hero, stealing my LoD glory...

thor thunder · Oct 01, 2007, 01:31 PM // 13:31

Ok i know Rits are very useful and there are plenty of options but Rits are very rare finding/haveing one able to get to mallxy is very rare, if you have one in guild/friends list or own one thats great but what about the other 99% of the people.. im shur 5 rits cant run the many ppl who need/want to go to it..along with the other classes its very hard to get a group like that.. ever tryed a pug o yeah there imposible.. my guild is a pve guuild and we manly stay in GW:en stuff like bloodstone (less then 10-20min run for ~1green 1 gold and mats from hidden treasers) = more money a min then mallxy ever will be. yeah greens mats are nice but u can get same state stuff else wear and mabey even a gold or 2.. with all the time needed to do malllxy its really not worth it Imo.
If they changed mallxy to a kinda easy kill but takes forever and good planing then it would be good fun but right now its either own or be owned.

"Please, use real english next time. It helps. Don't say stuff like enof, gana, or shortened english."
first off i cant spell its just not one of my talents i cut words short cause i onistly cant spell them lol, second il type how the F**K i want to, who are you my mom? must be a mother never seen a guy care how ppl type wth..? you dont like me dont resort to chilish flame to get it out grow up and move on.