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Old Mar 24, 2008, 03:08 PM // 15:08   #141
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We had 3 ursans go at him in HM, it's not impossible, just takes good planning and a lot of patience.

Best strategy is to take out the healers first by pulling them, which is easier said than done.
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Old Mar 24, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28   #142
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Generic tatics

1. your must do great damage in short time, not a must a constant long time damage, better high damage in short time. this damage is not to kill rotscale, but to kill the other foes with him...

2. ok, no trouble to come to rotscale.

3. kill one by one of monks, bowman, and horseman, the monk with rotscale easily follow you to bridge. easy kill just pull.

4. time to kill the dragons with rotscale, use Sb in yourself, flag heros (spread heros because of AoE spells of rotscale) in bridge, go to midle of stairs, this place ranger cant hit you and you can strike them, nuke the dragons with rotscale kill one by one, a interupt to troll ungument is good not a must i kill dragons without interupts.

5. kill the dragons can be boring, because they run away from AoE, and SB duration is short, return wait SB recharge and return again in new charge to kill a low life dragon...

6. ok, you kill all dragons.

* if you look in radar one dragon still alive, because i have luck and rotscale follow me alone to right spot before i kill all other dragons.

7. alternate tatic, you can kill rotscale from stairs if you have a solid damage build, remember dragons cant strike you in stairs if you stay in the right spot and must have obisidian flesh or sb on all time...

8. pull rotscale to stairs, you must be the tank. stay betwen heros and henchs and rotscale, rotscale must focus damage only in you. in this phase is a must only one hench or human get all damage, if only one get all damage no worrys about healing

9. broadarrow, and rit spirits unconditional damage will kill and interupt rotscale fast. manually use broad arrow no stop, and painfull bond to boost damage.

10. for henchs i take, the monk for sure, necro and mesmer. you can see a warrior in pictures its to hold agroo while i running to fight rotscale, you can use the other ranger hench...

11. heros, the main trick is dazed him and interupt him and let him focus dmage in only one person by time. in the pictures you can see my strategy, dazed with broadarrow and interupt + damage with machine gun spirits... i think a broad arrow ranger is a must no discuss about it... but if you dont have a rit, can use a migraine + Arcane Conundrum + Frustration + stolen energy skills mesmer dont be afraid about energy the necro hench have blood ritual, other good build is Spirit of Failure, Spirit Shackles, Ineptitude, Price of Failure (necro skill) and some other stolen energy skills this will drain rotscale energy and damage him high.

In name of god tips... rebirth is a must... only healing skill or protect spirit all time on, no enchants please...






In the pictures you can see me tanking, the heros henchs spread flag, the monks are flag away from rotscale range but in range to heal me, remember spirtis have a flatbow range can stay away from rotscale range and attack, they are the main damage source and work togheter with broadarrow to interupt rotscale. look my skill bar i dont use my AoE spells to avoid rotscale running away.

LOL i forget

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One thing i've realised is that the spawn location can make this 'easier'. I think there's something like 5 different spawns on the island of which i've seen 3. In front of the door, way over to the right hand side and on the stairs. This was as easy one as they all bottle necked and didnt / couldnt move. A few meteor showers later and i was left with just rottie to focus on and even then he didnt move out of aoe (bug?)
true chosse the best spawn for your strategy, in some spawn stairs are a safe place in anothers no... some spawns made pull strategy easier... rezone if you think dont get a good spawn

Sorry my bad english.

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Old Mar 24, 2008, 06:56 PM // 18:56   #143
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One thing i've realised is that the spawn location can make this 'easier'. I think there's something like 5 different spawns on the island of which i've seen 3. In front of the door, way over to the right hand side and on the stairs. This was as easy one as they all bottle necked and didnt / couldnt move. A few meteor showers later and i was left with just rottie to focus on and even then he didnt move out of aoe (bug?)
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Old Mar 26, 2008, 01:22 AM // 01:22   #144
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I'd say take N/Rt Healer x2, Paragon Support x1, SV x1, SH/Ward Elem x1, BHA Ranger x1, Dev. Hammer Warrior x1 and Yourself. ^^
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Old Mar 26, 2008, 08:37 AM // 08:37   #145
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It's really easy. All you need is you (ursan), sabway heroes, and 4 henchies. No preparation needed (that was my standard tyrian vanq build and I completely forgot about rotscale), though a brain and playing ability is required. The dudes don't care that their names are in the screen.

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Old Mar 26, 2008, 09:26 AM // 09:26   #146
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It's really easy. All you need is you (ursan), sabway heroes, and 4 henchies. No preparation needed (that was my standard tyrian vanq build and I completely forgot about rotscale), though a brain and playing ability is required. The dudes don't care that their names are in the screen.

Heh, and use a lot of consumables I suppose?
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Old Mar 26, 2008, 12:00 PM // 12:00   #147
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Ursan + pre made build + consumables in SS, can't be put in the same post with "brain" and "ability"...
Oh, like you always use your own builds that you made? Almost every good build now are pre made, maybe you change one or 2 skills to make it fit the situation but that doesn't mean it's your build. And yes it can be put in the same post, as apparently there are people that fail even with Ursan, that's why there is a guide in the Campfire. And those are weekend bonus item, they do not affect H/H.

GJ on owning that dragon Holy, you Ursan noob
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Old Mar 26, 2008, 09:37 PM // 21:37   #148
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wow i cleared the bone dragon area relatively easily with 8 man group - 2humans 3 heroes each. This was before consumables and ursan - so I cant imagine why u are having any difficulty with this.
If u have casters you shuold be able to kill a few dragons without taking too much damage as u can hide behind the wall that goes up to the dragons. (Im pretty sure how this is how we were successful)
And a human monk that knows how to prot in pve properly makes anything in pve a total breeze.



If ur curious at all I got r6 max by running 6 Sf heroes and 2 human monks for 95% of the pve stuff.
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SF / glowing / liquid / fire attunment / glyph lesser / power drain / leech signet / res signet
xcept 2 eles - one which had ward melee and another with ward elements
(a bunch of ints on diff heroes is godly shutdown in pve as it is much easier to counter melee dmg with aegis etc and caster dmg tends to be devastating in some of the harder areas)

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Old Mar 26, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48   #149
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no complicated build needed. me and a friend vanquished it fairly easy with 6 ppl (2 real ppl, 4 heroes starting from druids overlook) only 2 things that u need, pre-prots and spinal shivers, its cake if u can do those 2 things. dont forgot an icy weapon

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Old Mar 27, 2008, 01:50 AM // 01:50   #150
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meh,,, Rotscale is easy. we did it with something similar to this... but can be done by anyone really. just flag heros to the right spot.

1. E/A - Bosskiller for all the rangers. Just pick them off 1 by 1. I use a DOA solo build that has Shadow of Haste, Deaths Charge and Dark Escape to jump out and Shadow Form with the rest of the boss kill build. After all the rangers are dead, the rest of the team move in against the Rotscale.

2. Earth Tank with Obsidian Flesh (E/R perma-obs)

3. the rest were 2 monks, 1 N/Rt, P/W, and R/P Pack hunter. 1 monk was WoH Patient (Mo/A) and the other was RC with Leech Signet and Power REturn i think (Mo/Me). I think the N/Rt was Preservation and Life and Destruction... but can;t be sure... might have been Wanderlust....

it took 1/2 hour to kill the scale... but perhaps just take Spoil Victor?
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Old Mar 28, 2008, 05:22 PM // 17:22   #151
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Done on my perma-survivor Paragon with a friend and heroes.



The armor and grail were used as a safety net - I am a survivor after all. Perfectly doable without them. He's the only boss to date I've used cons against.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33   #152
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I actually thought he was a pushover, went with 4 guildies, rest heroes balanced group (no ursanway, only had the sab jagged bomber). Had 2 wars, protted the wars with prot spirit and healing seed, took all the agro, kept prot spirit + healing seed on wars and the group went down fast. Don't get what the huge fuss is about him, we didn't use cons either, just a tiny bit of prot works wonders.
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Old Apr 09, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43   #153
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Since everyone seems to be posting screenshots, here's mine :P



Unfortunately, I can't remember what people were running, because the screenshot is over a year old... other than Olias, he was a MM. I'm guessing it would be much easier to do now, though. With all the PvE skills and stuff.

EDIT: I was staring at that hex breaker on my bar and remembered that we all for some reason thought that he uses a lot of hexes for his FoC and almost everyone brought that. Turned out to be useless. >.<

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Old Apr 10, 2008, 03:45 AM // 03:45   #154
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2 BHA Rangers, 2 Monks, 1 Ele, 1 "Tank", 1 SS, 1 SV > Rotscale in any mode.
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Old Apr 13, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52   #155
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i finally killed rotscale too; it took a while to get it right though. here's my build:

me: w/n
[headbutt][brawling headbutt][barbarous slice][galrath slash][flail]["for great justice"][plague touch][sunspear rebirth signet]

ogden: mo/e
[healer's boon][heal party][ethereal light][dwayna's kiss][glyph of lesser energy][rebirth][extinguish][dismiss condition]

master of whispers: n/mo
[spiteful spirit][enfeeble][enfeebling blood][barbs][rip enchantment][protective spirit][signet of lost souls][rebirth]

margrid: r/rt
[broad head arrow][distracting shot][savage shot][lively was naomei][shadowsong][pain][flesh of my flesh]

then i brought the following henchmen: necro, monk, ele, and warrior. once at majesty's rest, there are certain spawns on the island where it's easier to take out rotscale's peripheral entourage (the undead rangers and the undead horseman). i had mow keep casting ss on these guys to kill them one at a time. once these guys were down, it's actually possible to lure the damned clerics to the bridge. it took me a few tries because they like to fly towards you and then fly back. eventually i was able to get them to not fly back to their starting position and killed them on the bridge. afterwards, i kept having mow cast ss on the rotting dragons. the heroes can be flagged just to the sides of the bottom of the stairs such that the dragon's shots will be blocked by the terrain. they'll just attack themselves to death. once rotscale's by himself, he's rather easy since i just kept him dazed. of course, it took me 8 tries to finally get this right.

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Old Apr 17, 2008, 08:46 PM // 20:46   #156
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I just went down there with my brother & 6 heroes to Vanquish the area and found it more grinding than hard. Just get the 3x Ele Nukers to run forwards, cast MS on the closest monster and run back (might need PS cast on them all). 3 or 4 of those and you should be down to just Rotscale and a couple of others - then just run in, keep the Broad Head Arrow and a couple of wanders on Rotscale while the Ele's finish off the rest of the monsters. When only Rotscale is left move the rest back or at least stop casting Fire Attunements and just SF/MS him the rest of the way.

R/Any (myself)
[Volley][Broad Head Arrow][Summon Ruby Djinn]

2x N/Rt & 1x N/Mo Sabway setup.

3x E/Any (one of which was my brother)
[Searing Flames][Glowing Gaze][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Meteor Shower][Fire Attunement]

1x Monk running a standard spot-healing WoH healing build.

In retrospect you could probably alter those Sabway builds since there are hardly any corpses, although the result of that is a N/Mo, which if you disable some skills, proceeds to spam Protetive Spirit which can be useful. If someone does die the Bone Minions and subsequent energy gain for the Necro's can help out a alot (although a Blood Ritual necro on the back line might be more helpful).

Interestingly even with 16 in Marksmanship Broad Head Arrow didn't seem to cover him permanently and then he'd spike the party, Pain Inverter at that point would be rather helpful
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Old Apr 17, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45   #157
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walked through this area with EASE the other day, i was FoC our tank was a necro with SV (dont ask) we had a nuker a healer a BHA and something i cant remeber, the whole area was a doddle.
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Old May 09, 2008, 02:12 PM // 14:12   #158
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woo hoo my first post , hey sorry to keep this thing alive but becuase of this thread I was able to do this with just H/H just wanted to try it out real quick

War(me) - grenths balance, also had plague touch for defeaning roar
N/mo - prot spirit, heal party WOH
R/me - with Broad head arrow and winter
N/me - Spoil victor, spinal shivers
claude, healer, mage and dunham

it was quite rough 4 team wipeouts, used a powerstone, just make sure to keep the party out of aggro, after taking out his fellow buddies its a while to kill him but not a problem, he kept getting interupted

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Old May 12, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11   #159
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wanna know how i killed the thing???

3 Eles with gliph of sacrifice and meteor shower
2 monks (1heal+1prot)
2 ursans
1 ranger with broad head arrow

nice and clean
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Old May 19, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53   #160
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OP may have found solution already but can't we all just use consumables...doesn't even have to be that Powerstone or w/e just a bunch of candycanes will do just fine...
Plague Touch is very useful to transfer the crap Rotscale gives you...
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