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holix · Oct 09, 2007, 02:05 PM // 14:05

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Originally Posted by MYSTERYouse

I did most of the 4man missions with this party setup without any major problems (btw. my profession Ele)

What build do u run as ele

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MYSTERYouse · Oct 09, 2007, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by holix

What build do u run as ele

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Also I am running SF nearly everywhere with 6 basic skills

Searing Flames
Glowing Gaze
Liquid Flame
Glyph of Sacrifice
Meteor Shower
Fire Attunement
XXX
XXX

The last two skills I choose depending on the area/mobs I face, most of the time Inspired Enchantment, Mantra of xxx from Mesmer line(I like to steal Mark of Protection from Doloyaks), Smite Hex, Protective Spirit (using for keeping myself alive while pulling) from Monk line or just some of the PvE skills (mostly Youre all weaklings! which adds nice Weakness when I have +33% Weakness mod on my weapon).

mcsumo · Oct 10, 2007, 08:49 AM // 08:49

Well.....WOW!!

My mate and I just ripped through FOW last night. I tweaked my heroes' builds since I figured double SS and weapon spells was a waste.

Because we weren't sure what happened with which quests, we ran round and killed everything first. Took about 2 hours. Then we went through completing all the quests 1 by 1. Total of 3 to 3 and a half hours for eternal conqueror of FOW.

Now for the UW.

Jensy · Oct 10, 2007, 07:56 PM // 19:56

Running the SS build myself + Oli (MM) and Livia (Rest), + Tahlkora, I vanquished the first four man area of NF in less than an hour. No deaths, nobody even came close to dying

So yeah, it works in that 4 man area, anyway. Plan on trying some of the 4 man missions later on.

Friends and I guess is that if SR is nerfed (again), it will be to remove the energy gain from spirits. And that's probably only because of PvP.

Vizzi · Oct 11, 2007, 05:59 PM // 17:59

I did okay using Sab's new version in Thommis's dungeon. Had a few wipes, but finished with good results.

But now I am getting my arse handed to me in Selvetarm. I can't even get to the Dungeon Key in the first area.

Using the usual compliment of henchies.
Mhenlo
Lina
Herta
Zho

MoW on Curses Duty
Olias on MM
Livia on Resto
and My Necro on Curses

I tried subbing the Necro's with Smiting monks and all that got me was a trip back to Umbral with my tail between me legs.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, as this is my last dungeon to complete for my dungeon guide.

and Thanks Sab for a wonderful and fun team build to play,. and also everyone else with there great tweaks and suggestions. this is a great thread overall.

Zaxan Razor · Oct 11, 2007, 09:10 PM // 21:10

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Originally Posted by Vizzi

I did okay using Sab's new version in Thommis's dungeon. Had a few wipes, but finished with good results.

But now I am getting my arse handed to me in Selvetarm. I can't even get to the Dungeon Key in the first area.

Using the usual compliment of henchies.
Mhenlo
Lina
Herta
Zho

MoW on Curses Duty
Olias on MM
Livia on Resto
and My Necro on Curses

I tried subbing the Necro's with Smiting monks and all that got me was a trip back to Umbral with my tail between me legs.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, as this is my last dungeon to complete for my dungeon guide.

and Thanks Sab for a wonderful and fun team build to play,. and also everyone else with there great tweaks and suggestions. this is a great thread overall.

Take Cynn instead of Zho imho, you'll kill things much quicker, and make things scatter a bit, which relieves quite some pressure on your healing h/h.

novawhiz · Oct 11, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54

To OP: Would you please post what the human monk (miss something) and the gwen hero are runing. Ty

Im not getting how this is synergized at all.

I thought the whole synergy was minions+barbs but you dont have barbs....

what am i missing here...

Also, are these builds good for any dungeon like shards of orr or chathedral of flames or only for Slayers Exile.

Jensy · Oct 11, 2007, 11:59 PM // 23:59

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Originally Posted by Vizzi

Using the usual compliment of henchies.
Mhenlo
Lina
Herta
Zho

MoW on Curses Duty
Olias on MM
Livia on Resto
and My Necro on Curses

I'd dump one of the hero necs (MoW, since you run curses yourself) and take a hero monk as LoDProt. That should be all you need as far as healing goes, and you can dump the two hench monks for more damage. The monks likely aren't putting out enough damage to make a difference against the tougher mobs down there. Taking Cynn, Herta, Zho and possibly one of the warriors should help. At least, this was true for me when I ran an 8-man team (I'm a curses nec myself).

Bewn · Oct 12, 2007, 12:35 AM // 00:35

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Originally Posted by novawhiz

Im not getting how this is synergized at all.

I thought the whole synergy was minions+barbs but you dont have barbs....

what am i missing here...

first of all, you're obviously missing the edit button

the Synergy lies in the Necro's primary attribute. Due to the minions the Heros have nearly unlimited energy.

Psychology · Oct 12, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

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Originally Posted by novawhiz

Also, are these builds good for any dungeon like shards of orr or chathedral of flames or only for Slayers Exile.

Yes,i tried Justiciar Thommis's dungeon and Selvetarm's dungeon with the build and it worked fine,although in forgewights dungeon i got riped apart,that is to be expected though,sf and sh destroyed h/h as they stood still.

I took Herta,Cynn,Mehnlo and the prot henchmen for slavers if it makes a difference.

novawhiz · Oct 12, 2007, 02:24 AM // 02:24

so the synergy is that the minions are dying because the minion hero isnt using blood of master????What??

Even so, what so great about an endless energy ss necro??

I guess WoR N/Rit is good but im not seing how this is such and amazing build...

Oh well i guess ill have to try it for me self.

Why not go N/Me for double SS?

Sab · Oct 12, 2007, 08:32 AM // 08:32

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Originally Posted by novawhiz

so the synergy is that the minions are dying because the minion hero isnt using blood of master????What??

Even so, what so great about an endless energy ss necro??

I guess WoR N/Rit is good but im not seing how this is such and amazing build...

Oh well i guess ill have to try it for me self.

Why not go N/Me for double SS?

Blood of the Master is to keep minions alive between battles.

The good thing about an SS Necro with infinite energy is the infinite energy.

And it's not an amazing build, people have been using this in HA for a long time.

You can echo SS if you want, but you'll need to disable echo and micro it yourself.

Free Wind · Oct 12, 2007, 08:53 AM // 08:53

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Originally Posted by novawhiz

Even so, what so great about an endless energy ss necro??

If you have lots of energy all the time then you doing something wrong. Energy in this game is to be converted into dealing damage or negating damage, period
If you have full energy you're either not doing much damage, not preventing it effieciently or you have a bad build (long recharging skills for example)

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Originally Posted by novawhiz

Why not go N/Me for double SS?

Heroes cant use archaine echo - they will echo any random spell, they dont 'understand' echo is for important spells

novawhiz · Oct 12, 2007, 11:58 AM // 11:58

im not stupid..

i wasnt asking whats so great about a character with infinite energy i was asking specificyl about an SS Necro.

SSing does deal quite a good amount of dmg but would a N/E high powered nuker with infinite energy deal substantially more damage...

RTSFirebat · Oct 12, 2007, 12:14 PM // 12:14

I've added the updated build to the first post, because I had no idea Sab has changed it

Also edited title a bit as well.

Free Wind · Oct 12, 2007, 12:22 PM // 12:22

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

I've added the updated build to the first post, because I had no idea Sab has changed it

Also edited title a bit as well.

The exact skill-by-skill builds are not important, the important thing I took from Sab's post was the necro-any synergy. As you can see, the builds i was using there were already modified a bit by me, more over, I started using N/Ele (warder) there as well as you can see on one of the attached screenshots

bungusmaximus · Oct 12, 2007, 12:49 PM // 12:49

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Originally Posted by novawhiz

SSing does deal quite a good amount of dmg but would a N/E high powered nuker with infinite energy deal substantially more damage...

no, a well equipped ele never runs out of energy, same as the necro, thanx to attunements, and eles do more damage then necro/eles. In many cases however, ss necros do more damage then eles to begin with.

RTSFirebat · Oct 12, 2007, 01:29 PM // 13:29

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Originally Posted by Free Wind

The exact skill-by-skill builds are not important, the important thing I took from Sab's post was the necro-any synergy. As you can see, the builds i was using there were already modified a bit by me, more over, I started using N/Ele (warder) there as well as you can see on one of the attached screenshots

Still had to change the title. To be honest I'm finding it difficult to keep this thread going in this section of the forums, since it a "build" discussion, so adding the build info and the point that you use it in EotN made it a safer bet.

That as I'm not sure about other people, but I hate having to look in another thread to get the info the original thread is commenting on. Linking sometimes is just plain lazy.

Snow Bunny · Oct 12, 2007, 02:51 PM // 14:51

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Originally Posted by Gigashadow

I have a question about the N/Rt; is there any particular reason for the self-defensive skill Protective Was Kaolai? Is this just to make him a more highly armored target to avoid agro? The thing I don't like about it is that holding the item drops his maximum energy significantly (as well as the health, and any HSR/HCT or health bonuses conferred by his caster weapon), so he is less able to absorb the large bursts of incoming energy.

'Cause it's close to LoD an very sexy

Vizzi · Oct 13, 2007, 12:50 AM // 00:50

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Originally Posted by pansy malfoy

I'd dump one of the hero necs (MoW, since you run curses yourself) and take a hero monk as LoDProt. That should be all you need as far as healing goes, and you can dump the two hench monks for more damage. The monks likely aren't putting out enough damage to make a difference against the tougher mobs down there. Taking Cynn, Herta, Zho and possibly one of the warriors should help. At least, this was true for me when I ran an 8-man team (I'm a curses nec myself).

Thanks very much for the suggestion. I am going to be giving it another go this weekend and I will definitely try this suggestion.

May I inquire as to how you have your LoDProt Monk set up? <I know no touch skills,.. damn Mhenlo

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