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Old Dec 23, 2009, 01:37 AM // 01:37   #1
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Tell me everything you know from personal experience, your successful H/H strategies, whatever. I didn't gather much from the wiki other than "uber-micro your heroes against Shiro when he uses Battle Scars".

This is my last mission for Legendary Guardian, so I wanna make this count.
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 02:09 AM // 02:09   #2
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lol just bring pi and shiro should be like holy banana hammock lol & bring a SoS & an ER protter should make things pretty darn easy
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 02:28 AM // 02:28   #3
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Once you clear out the portals and are about to approach the gate, inch forward until shiro and the lich start talking (but they won't be at the center yet). Head back to the gateway, when the dialogue ends, the two of them will appear spaced appart inthe center of the pit.

Hug the right wall and inch forward towards the liche until you aggro him and he starts following (If you aggro both at once, it'll be impossible to separate them after). Run back to the gateway, that's about as far as he'll go. From there, disable all enchants (his enchant stripping skill hurts, badly) on heroes and don't use any yourself, and he should drop like a sack of potatoes.

From there, Shiro doesn't do that much damage until his health is below about 60%, so just run past him while capping shrines (dont' forget to re-enable the enchants on heroes.) If you bite off more than you can chew and need to lose shiro, just hide in a corner of one of the shrines (Just flag your heroes in one of the very back corners, he always breaks aggro) and wait until he returns to the center.

The rest of the mish should be pretty easy as long as you have a team capable of doing gate of pain.
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 02:35 AM // 02:35   #4
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Run normal 8 man build with a few anti shiros, Empathy SS, PI Etc.

Once all gates are destroyed, stand outside range of any shrines/lich/shiro

Flag heroes to all shrines 1 by one, no enemies with spawn on them, easy caps.

Once all are capped, slide down side and aggro lich, take him out

Kill Shiro, done, no ridiculous capping with shiro on you
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 02:49 AM // 02:49   #5
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Run normal 8 man build with a few anti shiros, Empathy SS, PI Etc.

Once all gates are destroyed, stand outside range of any shrines/lich/shiro

Flag heroes to all shrines 1 by one, no enemies with spawn on them, easy caps.

Once all are capped, slide down side and aggro lich, take him out

Kill Shiro, done, no ridiculous capping with shiro on you
That's actually pretty viable. The problem is, if you flag them to shrines outside of compass range, they won't fight the margos there, so the shrines will be recapped soon as they leave.

The problem is that you'll then have to fight the bosses without the benefit of the god bonuses.
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 02:49 AM // 02:49   #6
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another easy way without special builds.. take margrid as a r/w.. setup a nice damage build with high expertise.. put in the blocks on her bar along with wild blow and switch her to axe when you get to pulling him up to the door.. she makes a great tank for shiro and battle scars will stay down
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 03:18 AM // 03:18   #7
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That's actually pretty viable. The problem is, if you flag them to shrines outside of compass range, they won't fight the margos there, so the shrines will be recapped soon as they leave.

The problem is that you'll then have to fight the bosses without the benefit of the god bonuses.
The shrines will be recapped yes, but you just have to aggro bosses individually.

Slide down right side to nab lich and hes cake.

Then it's just a regular ole HM Shiro, nothing wild blow and spiteful spirit can't handle
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 04:08 AM // 04:08   #8
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To confirm the tactic that IronSheik suggested. This works brilliantly in HM.

You clear the portals like normal then just open your U map and flag all hero's from shrine to shrine capping one after the other. So long as you have capped them all it doesn't matter afterwards if they get retaken. You will still be credited.

Then its just a case of taking out the Lich and Shiro with the techniques mentioned.

Also if you can get someone to accompany you with their hero's. Then you can speed up the process by capping 2 different shrines at the same time.
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 05:13 AM // 05:13   #9
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Disregard everything I said, I fellate men.

Pulled it my first try with an AP caller Prot build (Pain Inverter and all), stance Margrid with DBlow and DShot, Xandra pulling spirit block with added Shadowsong, Livia healing with extra SS support, Herta, Odurra, Mhenlo, and Kihm. The body of the mission was made more difficult due to lack of damage output, but thankfully Margonite Clerics literally can't heal to save their lives.

+1 Leg. Guardian

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Old Dec 23, 2009, 08:43 AM // 08:43   #10
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I ran a standard SoS rit, Dunk as a WoH healer, and an MoW as SS. I was an imbagon with wild throw. By the time I capped the shrines, shiro was almost dead, and the lich was already dead. The mission is fairly easy, just drop spirits on your way up to the shrine, and they will distract Shiro, and your basically free to capture at your leisure.
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 09:17 AM // 09:17   #11
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I ran a standard SoS rit, Dunk as a WoH healer, and an MoW as SS. I was an imbagon with wild throw. By the time I capped the shrines, shiro was almost dead, and the lich was already dead. The mission is fairly easy, just drop spirits on your way up to the shrine, and they will distract Shiro, and your basically free to capture at your leisure.
Truly I had no worries about the mission at all, but rather, finding a build that had good synergy between accomplishing the actual mission /and/ killing Shiro, because I have not once, ever, EVER, had good luck killing Shiro.

But Shadowsong made it nice.
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Old Dec 23, 2009, 10:11 AM // 10:11   #12
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Me as Warrior with:
Heroes: Protection Monk / Spoil Victor Necromancer / Hydromancer
Henchmen: 2 Monks / 2 Elementalists

Lure out the Lich.

After killing him, disable your Hero's attack, but keep a Water snare and Blurred Vision open, and target Shiro for your Hydromancer.
Flag Henchmen to first shrine and capture it, might have to flag them more while capping so they won't run all wild with Shiro around.
After capping a shrine flag Henchmen at next shrine and continue.

After capping all shrines, spread out Hero flags around Shiro and kill him. Shouldn't have to micromanage anything. Maybe activate Spoil Victor if your hero is lazy casting it on Shiro.

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Old Dec 27, 2009, 09:11 AM // 09:11   #13
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There's no advantage to killing the Lich first. Kill Shiro first because he's easier to pull. And definitely use your H/H to cap the shrines, but if you do, do not aggro the bosses until the H/H have all left the temple. This causes the mission to glitch, and the bosses never become enemies.

I tanked Shiro with a bonder (+Wild Blow) because I couldn't get my H/H to behave when trying to kill him with PI, but there are lots of different things that work.
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Old Dec 27, 2009, 11:27 AM // 11:27   #14
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There's no advantage to killing the Lich first. Kill Shiro first because he's easier to pull. And definitely use your H/H to cap the shrines, but if you do, do not aggro the bosses until the H/H have all left the temple. This causes the mission to glitch, and the bosses never become enemies.

I tanked Shiro with a bonder (+Wild Blow) because I couldn't get my H/H to behave when trying to kill him with PI, but there are lots of different things that work.
My spirit wall was excellent at making him sit still.
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