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kainoacoynui · Jul 06, 2010, 07:17 PM // 19:17

I was wondering, what profession is best to max all the titles (except the PvP ones) with in general?

Dawn Angelheart · Jul 06, 2010, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Search is best for the maximum efficiency.

long story short. Nothing is best.

Lord Dagon · Jul 06, 2010, 08:54 PM // 20:54

i would say ele as the best. i dont think anyone can answer that w/out predjuice b/c we all have our favorite class.
but pick your favorite class(i wouldnt go w/ paragon th b/c TBH they fail outside imbagon) it will make getting GWAMM alot less "annoying"

Nijntjuh · Jul 06, 2010, 09:25 PM // 21:25

If u wanna max all the titles besides the pvp ones means you will be spending quite alot time on you'r character with that in mind you should choose the profession you enjoy most in playing because you don't wanna play a profession you dislike for all those countless hours you'r working on you'r titles.

Also there isn't really a best profession most professions are good in 1 thing but bad at the other thing. For example my dervish title hunter can't do speedclears or w/e but can very effectivly chestrun/explore because of his great running capabilities.

So just find the character/profession you enjoy the most and stick to that one you can always make different ones for money etc.

WarcryOfTruth · Jul 06, 2010, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by Tobi Madera

i wouldnt go w/ paragon th b/c TBH they fail outside imbagon)

Why would you lie to him with a statement like that? They have several builds that are superbly effective, maybe not AS much as spamming Save Yourselves, but there are many effective builds.

Ewon · Jul 06, 2010, 09:46 PM // 21:46

It really doesn't matter which class you pick, your going to be able to do everything on them anyway. All that you really need is a class that you wont end up getting bored on.

All classes can vanquishes zones, map areas, complete missions, and drink/eat title items, so just pick your favourite. None of the classes are going to be handy-capped for this, all the titles take is time. (and yes, my paragon gets titles fine ^^)

If you are going for any of the account wide titles, you'll end up playing other classes anyway. (Such as a monk for faction farming)

Eragon Zarroc · Jul 06, 2010, 10:55 PM // 22:55

whatever you think you would be willing to play on for long long hours. my personal favorite is warrior

Schmerdro · Jul 06, 2010, 11:07 PM // 23:07

The best for GWAMM are: Assassin, Elementalist,Monk, Necromancer, Paragon, and Ritualist (in alphabetic order).

Don't pick Mesmers. If you need one (probably for the Panic elite) then just use a hero since they have better interrupting reflexes than any human will ever have. Fast Casting is still bad.
Don't pick Rangers. They are out-damaged by other classes, especially by the Ritualist.
Don't pick Warrior nor Dervish, they have too little damage capability and have a much smaller diversity of builds available compared to an Assassin.

Ewon · Jul 06, 2010, 11:26 PM // 23:26

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Originally Posted by Schmerdro

The best for GWAMM are: Assassin, Elementalist,Monk, Necromancer, Paragon, and Ritualist (in alphabetic order).

Don't pick Mesmers. If you need one (probably for the Panic elite) then just use a hero since they have better interrupting reflexes than any human will ever have. Fast Casting is still bad.
Don't pick Rangers. They are out-damaged by other classes, especially by the Ritualist.
Don't pick Warrior nor Dervish, they have too little damage capability and have a much smaller diversity of builds available compared to an Assassin.

For starters, physical damage in pve is stronger than you seem to think. As for being the best to get gwamm, how do any of your points make a difference when going for gwamm. EVERY class can play through the missions, clear maps, etc. We aren't talking about highend shit/pvp that requires you to actually play a build. Hell, with h/h you could play through the game without a skill on your own bar.

Saying any class isn't good for gwamm is just bs.

Wyndy · Jul 06, 2010, 11:57 PM // 23:57

you are going to be looking at their butt and back of head for hours on end. find something you enjoy looking at. everything else is secondary.

Markus Clouser · Jul 07, 2010, 12:42 AM // 00:42

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Originally Posted by Schmerdro

Don't pick Warrior

Had no problems doing it on my warrior.
Mesmers can do more than just Panic (looks at Ineptitude and a dozen other great skills). Rangers, mhm, not enough pew pew and condition spreader? I'd say no.

You can do it on any class you want as long as you have good people to team up with.

Schmerdro · Jul 07, 2010, 01:45 AM // 01:45

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Originally Posted by Ewon

with h/h you could play through the game without a skill on your own bar

Read the OP's post, he asked for "the best [...] in general." That means playing with a full skill bar

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Originally Posted by Markus Clouser

You can do it on any class you want as long as you have good people to team up with.

The OP didn't ask for what is possible, he/she asked for the best. Also, if you're relying on other players to complete your GWAMM requirements for you then your choice of profession is completely irrelevant.

In every single game I have ever played there are always people like you two who always insist that the respective game is balanced and everything works.

First off, nobody asked if the game is balanced; what was asked is what is the best.

Secondly, this game was made by human beings and, unless every professions is exactly the same, there has to be some little imbalance in it.

And thirdly, you need to understand that some people actually enjoy finding little exploits within a system or, in this case, a game. Yes, in the end it doesn't matter because all professions are capable of achieving GWAMM. That's great and I'm not trying to argue against it. But I want to expose my brain to the challenge of finding "what is the best?" I may not be able to answer this question with 100% certainty but I enjoy the journey, the mental stimulation, of making an informed opinion. If that's not how you enjoy playing this game, then that's ok too. But you guys need to quit with this bs that the way that I (and possibly the OP since he asked this question) enjoy to play Guild Wars is wrong.

Luminarus · Jul 07, 2010, 01:48 AM // 01:48

Monk, Necro, Rit, Paragon, Ele, Warrior, Mesmer, or Assassin

I just find that rangers, and dervish arent as useful or easy as the other classes. But they arent what you would call difficult either.

kariemindstorm · Jul 07, 2010, 02:00 AM // 02:00

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Originally Posted by Schmerdro

Don't pick Rangers. They are out-damaged by other classes, especially by the Ritualist.

IMO Rangers would actually be one of the best classes to pick
besides their great ability for surviving which would make survivor cake they are extremely diverse with many builds that can actually deal mass damage and its also difficult to get tired of a ranger because of the millions of different options for builds with them.

Schmerdro · Jul 07, 2010, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Survivability: Ritualists can lay low level, low health Spirits that attract aggro and body-block enemies. Rangers have one pet (sometimes) and +10 armor (and an extra +30 against elemental damage). I wouldn't say there's that much of a difference here.

AoE Damage. Rits can play Barrage + Splinter Weapon better than Rangers since most of the damage comes from Splinter Weapon.

Builds Diversity: Rits can play offensive spirits (SoS), offensive spells (DwG), healing (the Restoration line), defensive spirits (Soul Twisting + Shelter + Union + Displacement), and any physical build (mostly because of Spirit's Strength); that's 5 build types. Rangers can play beastmaster (Enraged Lunge etc.), trapper, touch ranger (Vampiric Touch + Vampiric Bite), any physical build (because of Expertise); that's 4 builds types. So Rits have a somewhat higher build diversity and I really doubt how efficient it would be for a Ranger to play trapper or toucher in PvE.

Ewon · Jul 07, 2010, 02:40 AM // 02:40

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Originally Posted by Schmerdro

Read the OP's post, he asked for "the best [...] in general." That means playing with a full skill bar

right... I was totally serious on playing without a skillbar. Seems you missed the point there

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmerdro

The OP didn't ask for what is possible, he/she asked for the best. Also, if you're relying on other players to complete your GWAMM requirements for you then your choice of profession is completely irrelevant.

In every single game I have ever played there are always people like you two who always insist that the respective game is balanced and everything works.

First off, nobody asked if the game is balanced; what was asked is what is the best.

Secondly, this game was made by human beings and, unless every professions is exactly the same, there has to be some little imbalance in it.

And thirdly, you need to understand that some people actually enjoy finding little exploits within a system or, in this case, a game. Yes, in the end it doesn't matter because all professions are capable of achieving GWAMM. That's great and I'm not trying to argue against it. But I want to expose my brain to the challenge of finding "what is the best?" I may not be able to answer this question with 100% certainty but I enjoy the journey, the mental stimulation, of making an informed opinion. If that's not how you enjoy playing this game, then that's ok too. But you guys need to quit with this bs that the way that I (and possibly the OP since he asked this question) enjoy to play Guild Wars is wrong.

In no way am I saying this game is balanced. I'm not trying to prove that every class can get pve titles. I'm saying that your class doesn't matter, maxing pve titles for gwamm only takes time. You don't need the ability to farm, tank, run multiple builds, or be a skilled player.

Why don't we look at the titles needed:
Survivor - All classes can do this easy
Missions(7 titles total) - All classes can do this easy
vanquishing(4 titles) - "
rep titles(6) - "
Elite skills(4) - "
Cartographer(4) - "
consumable(3) - "
MotN(1) - "

All the character titles, which easy to get on anyone. I wouldn't say an assassin is any better at this than a warrior. The only possible thing you could try to argue one class over the other would be ow fast they could complete things. But seeing as you could just use discord/physway on anyone there is no point. Therefore, my point is that the 'best' class for pve titles, is the one you find fun.

I'm curious to know why you think one class is better for complete these titles. How is an assassin completing these soo much better?

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Originally Posted by Schmerdro

The best for GWAMM are: Assassin, Elementalist,Monk, Necromancer, Paragon, and Ritualist (in alphabetic order).

Don't pick Mesmers. If you need one (probably for the Panic elite) then just use a hero since they have better interrupting reflexes than any human will ever have. Fast Casting is still bad.
Don't pick Rangers. They are out-damaged by other classes, especially by the Ritualist.
Don't pick Warrior nor Dervish, they have too little damage capability and have a much smaller diversity of builds available compared to an Assassin.

I'm sorry but the reasoning you give here is bad...
Heroes with better reflexes? are you serious? yes, way back mesmer heroes where godly at rupting, but not anymore, plus this is pve, rupting isn't that needed (and yes it can help out here and there, I know).
Rit have crazy amounts of damage now do they?
Have you ever played a warrior or Dervish with say, phys buffs? I'd say they don't do "too little damage".

Imevil · Jul 07, 2010, 04:35 AM // 04:35

The GWAMM title is quite easy with any proffesion. I Have maxed it 3 times with warrior, necro and rit. Necro is still my favorite.

Don't pick Mesmers. If you need one (probably for the Panic elite) then just use a hero since they have better interrupting reflexes than any human will ever have. Fast Casting is still bad.
Don't pick Rangers. They are out-damaged by other classes, especially by the Ritualist.
Don't pick Warrior nor Dervish, they have too little damage capability and have a much smaller diversity of builds available compared to an Assassin.[/QUOTE]

Wrong. First try using other builds than the Panic one for mesmers to say something bad about them ( e.g : the AP build ) .
Rangers can do pretty mass damage, this excludes the barrage build ( e.g Prepared Shot build. )

BO6B · Jul 07, 2010, 08:06 AM // 08:06

It really boils down to which professions can play the specific titles the best. The physical professions (excluding paragons) can run very well and do the cartography titles well. Caster professions are good at vanquishing and guardian titles because of their increased ability to use discordway. Just play whichever profession you feel you can grind for weeks with =)

Btw @ Schmerdro: The simple fact is that YOU are not good at playing Rangers, Mesmers, Warriors, or Dervish. People give these professions too little credit. You'd be getting your ass handed to you without the tanking professions to take the damage, and mesmers to stop the enemies from dealing it.

Aryn Rand · Jul 07, 2010, 09:11 AM // 09:11

Why have a assasin instead of a warrior? Running in front gathering aggro using splinter weapon etc a warrior do great at this. I am not sure any class can vanquishing better and therefor get elites do missions etc.

The only thing I sure rangers etc will do better than warriors are running as in exploring titles. But if you plan it will you have your explorer titles along with your vanquishing.

Oleg · Jul 07, 2010, 10:05 AM // 10:05

I'm fairly surprised that people are down on wars. If you go for GWAMM you will likely spend a lot of time with H/H. I personally find H/H easier to direct with a war. It's vaguelly annoying with a monk. But that is probably because I like wars and don't particularly like playing monks (although playing as a monk does make you a better war when you go back).

I love playing war, and found GWAMM pretty interesting. I couldn't see myself maxing it again with any other profession. For me it was the best profession to use because I'm very omfortable with it. Even if Rits or sins had a distinct advantage in achieving GWAMM it would still have been easier for me to use a war. I'm just better with them.

So here's the answer, imagine you have to do a mission/vanq/dungeon/etc and there are no guildies or friends online, there are no runners and PuGs are not an option, which profession would you find it easiest to do it with? Whatever profession that is is the best one to go for GWAMM on.

There is such a variation of things you have to do to get GWAMM that no one profession is going to stand out on its own merits alone. Pick the one you like playing.

Or look at it this way, do you really want GWAMM on a profession that won't exist in GW2? We know there will be wars and eles. Everything else is a gamble. It won't make a difference to gameplay, but I wouldn't like it if my GWAMM was obsolete.