Originally Posted by BladeDVD

If you've just started playing, you might want to go back and follow the storyline of whatever campaign you started in. Eye of the North was designed with the expectation of being played by people who have already completed at least one campaign.

It helps a lot to learn about how the different skills work, how to call targets, how to pull and what enemies you should kill first.

Originally Posted by cosyfiep

o brave new world is a hard quest.
what skill are you using? do you have max armor? what runes/insignia are you using for you (and your heroes)?

what are the skill set ups for those heroes?

Originally Posted by leongrado

Necromancers heroes are EXTREMELY effective at just about anything. If you keep dying, I would suggest putting atribute points into soul reaping and either restoration or healing. Then add some cheap healing skills. They should be able to manage energy easily because of soul reaping. Also make sure your Ogden isn't using 10 energy healing skills because he will spam heals like all healers.

Originally Posted by BladeDVD

If you've just started playing, you might want to go back and follow the storyline of whatever campaign you started in. Eye of the North was designed with the expectation of being played by people who have already completed at least one campaign.

It helps a lot to learn about how the different skills work, how to call targets, how to pull and what enemies you should kill first.

Originally Posted by akelarumi

Eye of the north is designed as an expansion to be challenging to players who played all three campaigns and have all the skills/builds for them. Though the main questline of EoTN can be done with lesser resources, the side quests can prove to be difficult and more challenging.

So if you don't have the right heroes yet (with the right skills), try focussing on that.

Originally Posted by Kendil

Make sure you have max armor, otherwise you'll die like a fly. If you really want to have a good teambuild fast, I reccomend you look into unlocking skills for your heroes. I suggest zaishen elite. Otherwise I highly recomend that you go back to any of the other campaigns and aim to complete it. Skills will come in time. Another way of earning skills is to create alts, it's easier to get skills for yourself than for heroes, right?

Originally Posted by Gabs88

If you create an alt you can learn basic skills way cheaper for the first 10 skills or so (price goes up every time). Also the elites and skills further in to the campaigns you can unlock through PVP!

http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Team_-_7_Hero_Discordway if youre a caster and

http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Team_-_7_Hero_RoJway if you're melee are very good and forgiving builds! You'll be able to steamroll pretty much anything in the game with ease and a blindfold on.

Originally Posted by Vampire of Bone

I would suggest that the skills you don't have for the meta builds you have found, you get.
It will be a HUGE help, not only on the character you are on at the moment but in the future it means you will have good builds for your heroes no matter which character you are playing on.
I would also suggest that you kit your heroes out with runs and insignias as well as the best vigor runes and most effective weapons you can afford.

If you are going to progress through a campaign I would suggest Nightfall, getting the heroes, especially norgu and razah will allow you to abuse two of the strongest proffessions in the game, also if you can get Xandra from the norn fighting tourney. She is a great help.

All this might take you a while but once you have everything set up you will find things become a LOT easier and you will easily make back the time you spent doing this by just steamrolling mobs and enemies like they are delicious little traffic cones!

As for your build, as disappointing as it is for me to say one of the strongest builds you can run is:
*12 Deadly Arts, 8 Energy Storage, 10 prot
*Assassin's Promise, You Move Like a Dwarf, Ebon Vanguard Assassin support, Finish Him
*Any 4 other skills you like though as you are an e/mo I would suggest Aegis, Shield Guardian, optional, Res of any kind
*This will let you abuse these powerful and high recharge heals taking pressure off your team and doing kick ass damage at the same time

I hope this helps, good luck

Originally Posted by gregthewhat

I usually just spam my fire spells. I don't have prestige armor, but the armor below it. Runes/insignia?

Originally Posted by gregthewhat

oh ok, so i should give him mostly smiting skills???

Originally Posted by gregthewhat

what do you mean by creating alts?

Originally Posted by gregthewhat

I Just remember starting out all I did was get a crap ton of henchman and spam skills.

Originally Posted by Vampire of Bone

Heroes can use any skills unlocked on your account, you can unlock skills using 1000 balthazar faction which can be obtained through pvp matches.

By obtaining a skill on any character you unlock it for use on all pvp characters and heroes (to use it on a different pve character than the one on which you originally obtained it you will have to use a tome).

Hope that clears it up.

Also try checking wiki's notes on the quest, often they have helpful hints about which skills might be helpful and the best route to take.

Originally Posted by Frangeo Munda

Ok, so let's talk about Fire first. A lot of new ele players gravitate towards fire because it's, well, fire. It's big, explosive, does some nice AoE damage, and hey, you can rain down meteors from the sky! However, Fire is bad in this particular quest simply because Destroyers (the primary enemy of that quest) have incredibly high defense against it. They're all immune to burning (except for one, which I can't mention because it's a spoiler :P). They've also all got absurdly high armor vs. fire. For example, consider the elementalist skill Fireball, which does 91 Fire damage at 12 Fire magic. A Destroyer of Earth has 180 armor vs. fire damage, meaning that your big Fire spell will do a measly 11 damage (not taking into account level difference; because you're lower level than he is, you'll do even less damage!).

Next, get max armor. There's an armor trader in Boreal Station that can give you a relatively cheap set of max armor. Elementalists and other caster professions already have really low max armor. Having non-max armor basically highlights you as a great target for the enemy to whack.

When you can afford it, get a few runes. As an ele, you probably don't need the basic energy runes (Radiant, Attunement), as your primary attribute can compensate for that. I usually slap on a single Superior rune of my chosen element, a minor Energy Storage rune, and then whatever else. Need more health? Use a Survivor insignia. Are you always enchanted by something like Fire Attunement? Try Blessed insignae.



I wouldn't. Smiting isn't all that powerful, and arguably its most powerful elite skill, Ray of Judgement, relies somewhat on burning for damage (which, as I said above, destroyers are immune to). Instead, slap a few heals on the necro, and make the rest of his or her skills Death Magic or Curses or Blood (choose one, don't go for all three). Death Magic means minions, good cold damage (Destroyers don't like cold), and poison. Curses means destroyers self-inflicting damage, and some nice AoE stuff. Blood means lifestealing and some decent spiking (quick damage) ability. Again, do not do smiting; do healing (monk), Soul reaping (Necro), and one other Necro attribute.


An alt is just an Alternate Character. You should have at least 4 character slots open on that account, with one being filled with the ele you're talking about.


No problem; that's how we all started, even if some of us don't always admit it!
Also, I'd like to remind you that EotN henchmen aren't all that bad. If you have a hero, for example MOX, for whom you really just can't put together a good build, consider dropping him and bringing a hero. For example, Destroyers are weak to Lightning damage, and Aidan (ranger hench) uses the skill Barrage with a lightning bow. That means some rather nice AoE Lightning damage. Lo Sha, the mez henchie, uses the skill Ineptitude, which will cause blind to all of the Destroyers. Destroyers have no condition removal, so a mob of blind destroyers becomes nearly harmless.
Veterans of GW, with all possible skills unlocked on their accounts, often immediately tell new players to get this hero bar and that hero bar. It's entirely possible, however, for a newer player to play through EotN with only three heroes and 4 henchies.

Originally Posted by Kendil

Make sure you have max armor, otherwise you'll die like a fly. If you really want to have a good teambuild fast, I reccomend you look into unlocking skills for your heroes. I suggest zaishen elite. Otherwise I highly recomend that you go back to any of the other campaigns and aim to complete it. Skills will come in time. Another way of earning skills is to create alts, it's easier to get skills for yourself than for heroes, right?

Originally Posted by Frangeo Munda

Veterans of GW, with all possible skills unlocked on their accounts, often immediately tell new players to get this hero bar and that hero bar. It's entirely possible, however, for a newer player to play through EotN with only three heroes and 4 henchies.

Originally Posted by BrettM

For my tastes, one of the wrong ways for a new player to play this game is to look at a build, for yourself and/or heroes, and then direct all your gameplay to filling out that build. It sets the wrong goal, causing the player to jump around trying to get this skill and that skill, feeling as if they won't be able to really start playing until they've gotten the builds right. Yet they haven't really learned anything from the process, and don't really understand why or how the builds work. They keep finding themselves in impossible situations deep in the campaigns that they just aren't prepared to handle, leading to a very frustrating experience..

Originally Posted by gregthewhat

Ok I got another quick question about that. So say I start an alternate character as a Mesmer. If I unlock panic with that character, will that also unlock it for any of my heroes on another character? Without a skill tome?

Originally Posted by Frangeo Munda

Yep. As soon as you "learn" the skill on any character on that account, it becomes unlocked for all heroes on that account. You don't need a skill tome to use skills on heroes.