Curse

WhisperinShadow · Mar 05, 2012, 05:01 PM // 17:01

I got this quest from a guy whose name is Viggo located at Piken Square and started the quest with the assistance of 3 henchmen. However, the place where i arrived near Diessal lowlands on the road was surrounded by damn plenty of charr. They were not only so many but also powerful against my build also
party.

Anyone else tried this quest? ideas?

Dar Drakor · Mar 05, 2012, 05:27 PM // 17:27

What level are you? Most of the Charr are level 6-8 so you should be at least 8 before you attempt this.

Your armor should also be at least at the following ARs:

warrior 41
ranger 31
all caster primaries 21

Did you try pulling? Make sure you flag your party apart so that they aren't all clustered. Charr Flames Wielders and Fire Callers should always be your primary target. Then Shaman's/Martyr's. Then Ashen Claws/Ash Walkers. Then everyone else.

Blackbirdx61 · Mar 05, 2012, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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Originally Posted by Dar Drakor

What level are you? Most of the Charr are level 6-8 so you should be at least 8 before you attempt this.

Your armor should also be at least at the following ARs:

warrior 41
ranger 31
all caster primaries 21

Did you try pulling? Make sure you flag your party apart so that they aren't all clustered. Charr Flames Wielders and Fire Callers should always be your primary target. Then Shaman's/Martyr's. Then Ashen Claws/Ash Walkers. Then everyone else.

All True,
Had a good bit of trouble with this one myself; and I really believe its one of the toughest Quests for the Lv your supposed to try it for; If you've down loaded a Map of Tyria from the Web (Plenty of good maps available) you'll see your not far from Grenditch Courthouse; Your best advised (IMHO) to cross the bridge and punch through to there (even if you have to sac your Henchies to make the run.) You'll access Higher Level Henchmen there, and there is a skills merchant.

All that said, Drakor is right about this mission being an exercise in pulling,
be patient and chew the bad guys up in detail; you have to strip away all the supports from the Charr on the Alter before your final assault; and even then pulling as many Charr off the Alter before punching through to the ashes will help; dont be suprised if you make a trip to the Rez Shrine before you finish off the last of the Fur Balls.

(Shame Devona, "I need something Furry to hit!") is not available to you yet.

Best of Luck BB.

Iuris · Mar 05, 2012, 07:27 PM // 19:27

If a non-primary quest is giving you trouble, leave it be for a while and return to it later. There are several such quests in the game. They CAN be done, but it'll be quite hard unless you're of high enough level.

Maya Cerestiez · Mar 05, 2012, 07:45 PM // 19:45

You can also fight your way to Yak's Bend, grab 5 higher level henchmen and roll the quest.
I would just level up some though, just as Iuris is saying.

Sagittario · Mar 05, 2012, 08:25 PM // 20:25

Secondary quests that don't give you any special reward are being done by the majority of players. That's because there's no reason to.
You level up to 20lvl very early and the real fun starts then.
I suggest you to skip secondary quests that you don't enjoy.

Andydontsurf · Mar 05, 2012, 08:56 PM // 20:56

Doesn't the level of the henchmen adjust itself automatically depending on what area you are in or am I remembering it wrong?

Amy Awien · Mar 05, 2012, 08:58 PM // 20:58

A few rules of engagement I use:
Clear the area - so you have room to make long pulls or even retreat without running into more mobs.
Pull mobs away from the crowd. Set up a battle to your advantage, that is., flag your henchmen on a position with some advantages like a height, or a road curving up along a slope where they have to zigzag their way up. With the proper bends even stefan can ball them up.
Retreat timely and try to turn it into a 'long pull', have a bow ready and annoy the closest one enough to follow you while the rest return.

Or you can come back level 20, with heroes, and stroll through it, whatever means the most fun to you.

Blackbirdx61 · Mar 05, 2012, 09:43 PM // 21:43

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Originally Posted by Amy Awien

A few rules of engagement I use:
Clear the area - so you have room to make long pulls or even retreat without running into more mobs.
Pull mobs away from the crowd. Set up a battle to your advantage, that is., flag your henchmen on a position with some advantages like a height, or a road curving up along a slope where they have to zigzag their way up. With the proper bends even stefan can ball them up.
Retreat timely and try to turn it into a 'long pull', have a bow ready and annoy the closest one enough to follow you while the rest return.

All of us Newbies could copy this down and pin it up over our computers; its been said many times; but seldom so well. BB.

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Maya Said: You can also fight your way to Yak's Bend, grab 5 higher level henchmen and roll the quest. I would just level up some though, just as Iuris is saying.

Maybe so, but if Aleshia Ashes are stumping our friend. I don't think he'll have much luck hacking through the Hydra's to Yaks; not unless RG can find a runner. That said, It's a good Challanging Quest, and good practice at the Art of Pulling.

I would not suggest giving up on it without another try or two. The Story Gains momentum after YB and you may well find you don't get back to many of the Ascalon Quests once you've made it out of the wasteland.

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Originally Posted by Andydontsurf

Doesn't the level of the henchmen adjust itself automatically depending on what area you are in or am I remembering it wrong?

I don't think thats exactly right; I'm pretty well sure they change when you reach an outpost, pretty much like most other changes are tied to outposts. BB.

ogre_jd · Mar 05, 2012, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by Sagittario

Secondary quests that don't give you any special reward are being done by the majority of players. That's because there's no reason to.
You level up to 20lvl very early and the real fun starts then.
I suggest you to skip secondary quests that you don't enjoy.

The XP and money are worth the effort, usually. After all, it takes a lot longer to level up to 20 if you skip the sidequests.

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Originally Posted by Andydontsurf

Doesn't the level of the henchmen adjust itself automatically depending on what area you are in or am I remembering it wrong?

No, the number and level of henchmen (and exactly which you can get) depends on the outpost you leave from, not the zone you're going into.

Sagittario · Mar 05, 2012, 11:26 PM // 23:26

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Originally Posted by Blackbirdx61

I don't think thats exactly right; I'm pretty well sure they change when you reach an outpost, pretty much like most other changes are tied to outposts. BB.

You're right. Henchies keep the same level as they had in the outpost you left from.

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Originally Posted by ogre_jd

The XP and money are worth the effort, usually. After all, it takes a lot longer to level up to 20 if you skip the sidequests.

For the 1st time playing GW you want to do it properly, follow the storyline as it is, complete all side quests and fully enjoy it, but repeatedly it's something else.
You don't really want to spend hours on doing long boring and bad-rewarding quests while you can get run to LA and very fastly and easily level up in Elona/EotN where you get heroes too.
After all GW before 20 lvl is more like tutorial than real gaming.

depeche · Mar 06, 2012, 07:15 AM // 07:15

I always found this one of the most challenging and fun quests there is in early prophecies.

It's long, it can be tough but you feel like you have accomplished something when finishing this quest.

So, especially for first time do-ers, do all the quests.

Keep in mind the advice players gave :
* position ur henchman
* pull enemies with a bow form a distance
* primary target the flame wielders

** Althea is waiting **

Perkunas · Mar 06, 2012, 12:20 PM // 12:20

If you are/were talking about her ghost (Duke's Daughter quest), return to Piken Square, abandon and retake the quest. Her location will change. If you are talking about the Althea's Ashes quest, temporarily skip it until you reach Yak's Bend. With a team of 6 higher leveled henches, you can return and have an easier time.

ogre_jd · Mar 06, 2012, 01:43 PM // 13:43

Don't wait 'til Yak's Bend come back to Althea's Ashes with a larger party (takes forever to walk to the Dragon's Gullet from Yak's Bend) - UNLESS your character hasn't yet died and thus still has a chance at the Survivor title. Use it to learn how to pull. Once you clear out some of the area at the base of the temple, flag your Henchmen up to the top, wait a couple of seconds so that they get aggro, then run to the top and interact with the altar. Then you can map back.

Bring a running skill, if you can get one, for best results.

Dodge (Ranger; from "The Charr Staging Area" in Old Ascalon)
Illusion of Haste (Mesmer; from "A Cure for Ralena" in Sardelac Sanatarium)
Sprint (Warrior; from "Military Matters" in Old Ascalon)

WhisperinShadow · Mar 07, 2012, 09:57 AM // 09:57

i was very close to level 15. haven't tried again after i shared these lines here.
However, i prepared a new build with the assistance of 'drkn' from this forum.
Yesterday, i only went for other quests and some fight in PvP with my level 20 char. Unfortunately, i had taken over 10 consecutive loss at those battles. It was a shame.

Blackbirdx61 · Mar 09, 2012, 04:10 AM // 04:10

Well if your having that much frustration, yea you might disregard what I posted above and roll up a few other quests for a while and rebuild your confidence; Frustration does not help anyone's game; but come back with a Guild member of someone from Piken, who has beaten it and pay attention. It is a very tricky Quest, I beat it at 10 or 12; so at Lv 15 you got the HP for the Quest; but you wont beat it by brute force. As others above have noted if your having so much trouble think about how you can lighten your touch here. Good Luck BB.