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Divine Elemental · May 24, 2005, 06:05 AM // 06:05

i need help tips for a person mesmer/warrior that can do nice damage degeneration skill+can dodge attacks+reduce dmg.

pls help a mesmer/warrior newb

Dakor · May 24, 2005, 09:13 AM // 09:13

I'm a Wa/Me who plays along side a Me/Wa

I have had 2 builds:
1) The IW ***** ... far and away the most popular Wa/Me build at the moment.
2) Ghetto mesmer ... my current build.

Now you porbably went Me/Wa for IW right ?
well wrong class combo im affraid

Yes you will do more damage per swing to an armoured target than a Wa/Me due to being able to take Illusion up to 16.
BUT you will require defensive stances to stay alive that deep into melee... where as a Wa/Me can just stand there soaking up damage and use a speed boost skill which are also stances and hence why Me/Wa can not use them (as they die fast without defence stances) doing a hell of a lot more damage due to rapid swings.

And currenlty as a "Ghetto Mesmer" i use energy boosting skills from insperation to keep my mana constantly topped up totaly cirumventing the warrior drawback of having low mana and allowing me to perform as a heavily armoured mesmer who can also lay down serious hurt with a hammer.

So in summery Warrior is a poor 2ndary for Mesmer BUT mesmer is a great secondary to warrior.

Mesmers get thier own battle stance to dodge with (Distortion) It will cost you 1 mana (with high illusion) every time you dodge... but you can feed this with spirit of faliure that gives you 4 mana(with high insp) every time the hexed foe misses.

If i was going to give you some advice on Me/Wa it would be that maybe you would make a good paladin killer.
Cast empathy on him
Cast Phantasm on him
Run in
Sever Artery him with a sword
Distortion
Shatter enchantment
Gash
Distortion
Ether feast

throw in some mana drain like energy tap of drain to stop him from healing and when you get in trouble cast distortion and eather feast.

Sorry i could not be more helpful but Me/Wa usfulness usualy boils down to IW usage which the warrior does better (in terms of damage over time and survivability)

Twilight Doll · May 24, 2005, 01:47 PM // 13:47

I disagree... W/Me have crappy energy regeneration not to mention total energy.

Dakor · May 24, 2005, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by Twilight Doll

I disagree... W/Me have crappy energy regeneration not to mention total energy.

1stly: Gladiator armour + challice = 40 mana

2ndly:

Energy tap
Energy drain
Signet of Leach
Inspiring Enchantment
Ether Lord
Spirit of Failure
Inspired Hex
Mantra Of Recall
Mantra of Earth, Air, fire and Water
Power Drain

ALL give you mana back ..... meaning it is VERY easy to be a Warrior Mesmer if you have High Inspiration...a mear 2 skills of that list give sizable energy return.
Sure it doesnt suit every build of Mesmer to go the Inspiration route but if you do being a warroir has huge perks.

*Last target for drains, disables, dazes, Interupts etc
*Lots of armour
*Capability to spec in weapons and do decent damage and have a purpose even when drained.

Twilight Doll · May 24, 2005, 06:47 PM // 18:47

I'm not saying the build won't work. I think if you put a W/Me against a Me/W with similar builds, I think Me/W will win.

What good is 40, if your energy regen is slow. If you were fighting a Me/W, and they have fast cast, they're going to get through their skills much faster than you. You are also more prone to being interrupted.

I will however agree on that fact that you will less likely be center of attention but sometimes it's a good thing.

Here's my build:

Distortion
Flurry
Conjure Phantasm
Illusion of Weakness
Ether Feast
Energy Tap
Illusionary Weaponry
Sympathetic Visage

The ones who can take me down usually are other mesmers or rangers with poison. I have rarely lost any fights to warriors.

Rather than saying all this however, I'm just going to end any type of heated debate because you're not really fighting anyone 1v1 and situations always change so you're not always going to have the best skills available.

Dakor · May 24, 2005, 09:31 PM // 21:31

The reason Me/Wa spank you is because they strip you IW... i use Inspiring Enchantment on any one with a swod and chakram whos in combat.... its a dead givaway.

Like you say it never will be a 1 on 1 and mesmers never try to drain me they just put empathy on me .... so i drain them, beat them through empathy then ether feast after a few hits to keep them low and gain back the loss from empathy...
Though typicaly i attack mesmers last as i dont want them to be wise to what i do... so i go for monks, necro's, elementalists, wariors and by that time thier mesmer is ususaly dead at the feet of other warriors.

If your a Spell heavy warrior attacking the oppoising mesmer 1st is not wise as if he gets ressed he will have your number and be on you like a shot beaucse you are typicaly an easier shutdown.

Twilight Doll · May 25, 2005, 01:37 AM // 01:37

nah that's not how I play... I never use IW right away first thing... I wait to see how the other player plays first... before whippin it out. It's not like I have 0 into swordsmanship... I actually have 10 points in it.

So to say one spanks the other is a rather uneducated statement. It has more to do with the player than anything else.