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Old May 28, 2005, 07:13 PM // 19:13   #21
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Retribution
Reversal of fortune

thats it, dont fight back
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Old May 29, 2005, 09:15 AM // 09:15   #22
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Because there ARE people who would rather try to figure it out for themselves.

It's just common courtesy.


Jana
Well what's the spoiler you're revealing in the threat?
You're already revealing the spoiler that you're fighting your mirror in the thread title, what more can did you say?
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Old May 29, 2005, 09:38 AM // 09:38   #23
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I actually did it with only 1 skill in my skillbar - Divine Boon. Add to that maxed out Divine Favor (which everyone should be able to get at that point) and you can pretty easily beat your mirror image. In fact, it took me less than 50 secs. You might need a decent staff though, to do enough damage.
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Old May 29, 2005, 01:07 PM // 13:07   #24
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I'm wondering why in the hell my mirror uses a bow and an axe, when I have pts in neither, and he still hitting for like 80 dmg. Why??

Anyway, I am Mo/Me and I equipped a half-dozen useless and long-cast-time hexes like Empathy. Stay out of range of his arrows and his cast-range until your hex-breaker regens, and every time, he will hex-breaker himself to death.
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Old May 29, 2005, 11:44 PM // 23:44   #25
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It seems that Monks have the hardest time beating thier mirror for the reasons mentioned above. As a warrior your job is to take hits and do the whole HULK SMASH routine. Monk are just the opposite: we give life, and can't take many hits.

As a warrior, your mirror test was exactly what you've been trained to do, take hits and deal lots of damage.

As a monk, I am a fish out of water. I am now being asked to do a warrior's/damage dealer's job. That isn't fair. And I don't think it's true test of a monk's skill.

It's like asking a helicopter to fly faster than the speed of sound. No, a helicopter has a different job than a super fast fighter jet. Why should a helicopter be asked to pulled 9Gs in the simulator? He's is never gonna pul 9Gs in a helicopter.

The monk mirror test is inadequate. GW should change it.

I completely change my position on the Monk Mirror Test. It's easy to win (35 seconds flat). I didn't come up with this strategy, but this is what I used:

Spells
Retribution (33% return damage)
Breeze (continuous heal)
Balthazar's Spirit (Energy boost)
Divine Boon (Healing boost)
Bane Signet(0 energy cost damage)

Attributes:
12 Divine Favor
11 Smite Prayers
8 Heal Prayers

Weapon:
Rod or Staff with 10-21 dmg or something in that range

I defeated the mirror in 35 seconds FLAT!!!! The most important thing I learned from the mirror test is that there is more to being a Monk that being a Heal-Bot. The reason most monk have problems beating the mirror is beacuase they don't know how to fight. They only know know how to heal.

Being a Heal-Bot you only know 12% to 25% of your hero's true power. Smiting Monks are insanely powerful. I found that I was healing too much. I no longer use healing prayers. With Divine Boon you only need one heal/protect prayer. I use a variation of the above build for my Smite/Protection Monk.

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Old May 31, 2005, 06:09 PM // 18:09   #26
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"Retribution
Reversal of fortune

thats it, dont fight back"


^^my bad. You can fight back with a wand, retribution only works on physical damage.

Oh wait again. Your mirror may use reversal of fortune on you. Oh, i just plain forgot how I did it, hehe.
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Old May 31, 2005, 06:47 PM // 18:47   #27
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use breeze instead
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Old May 31, 2005, 10:48 PM // 22:48   #28
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*SPOLIER*

Level up the water attribute if you are an elementalist and use Maelstrom. I beat my mirror in less than 20 seconds.
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Old Jun 01, 2005, 12:15 AM // 00:15   #29
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As a monk/mesmer I use healing breeze, backfire, empathy. Took a few times to get the timing right but in the long run it was easy.
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Old Jun 01, 2005, 01:07 AM // 01:07   #30
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where do u go to fight your mirror??
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Old Jun 01, 2005, 01:08 AM // 01:08   #31
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It's at Augry Rock after you complete the 3 Missions in the desert

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Old Jun 02, 2005, 12:33 AM // 00:33   #32
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I am having lots of trouble fighting my mirror. I am doing what people are saying as a Monk/E. I take in bane signet and healing breeze, and the max i get the mirror is down to half health. His bow takes too much damage off me too fast. If i strafe and dodge his arrrows, how am i going to do damage on him? someone please help. I;m level 17 mo/e btw.
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Old Jun 02, 2005, 03:49 AM // 03:49   #33
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This build is the only one I've found to work. Everytime I beat my Mirror in 35 seconds Flat:

Attributes
11 +1 Divine Favor.
10 +1 Smite
8 +1 Healing

Skills
Breeze (Mirror doesn't use Breeze)
Bane Signet (smite spell uses no energy)
Balthazar's Spirit (give you energy when attacked)
Divine Boon (adds to heal)
Retribution (33% return dmg when attacked)

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Rod or Staff 10 to 21 dmg. OR something in that range.

Lots of points into smite. Divine Boon, Balthazar, and Retribution are all Enchantments. Put them on before you go into battle. Skip the cut scene. Boon and Breeze keep you alive. Balthazar's give you plenty of energy. Retribution and Bane kill him.

Use Breeze as necessary.

This build uses all Monk spells. Doesn't mater what secondary you have.

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Old Jun 03, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07   #34
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I am having lots of trouble fighting my mirror. I am doing what people are saying as a Monk/E. I take in bane signet and healing breeze, and the max i get the mirror is down to half health. His bow takes too much damage off me too fast. If i strafe and dodge his arrrows, how am i going to do damage on him? someone please help. I;m level 17 mo/e btw.
Watch him. You will see when he pulls his bow and when he begins to cast. There is a definite pause. Start strafing when he nocks his arrow, and stop strafing when his hands go up to do his casting. When you stop strafing, you can do your own casting.
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Old Jun 03, 2005, 07:08 PM // 19:08   #35
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As a monk/mesmer I use healing breeze, backfire, empathy. Took a few times to get the timing right but in the long run it was easy.
That is what I did as well.
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Old Jun 07, 2005, 12:17 AM // 00:17   #36
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You can also use Mend Ailment for 5 pts. He won't use it. He doesn't have any ailments. Ah, but because of the Divine Favor, it will heal you cheaply.

Definitely buff before stepping on the last pad. This gives you a big energy advantage.
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Old Jun 07, 2005, 12:28 AM // 00:28   #37
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You can take away his physical attacks by running behind the wall. If you are looking at your mirror, behind you on both sides is a walled ramp that leads up. Go there and just spell him to death. I ran there and did empathy, backfire, chaos storm and bane signet. I never actually physically attacked him and I never used healing.
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Old Jun 14, 2005, 09:20 AM // 09:20   #38
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I'm a level 20 Monk/Elementalist and here's how I beat my mirror (after trying out the stuff posted on this thread):

Very similar to funbun's, but slightly tweaked

Skills:
Healing Breeze
Bane Signet
Balthazar's Spirit
Retribution
Divine Boon

Skill Point Distribution - Had to redistribute some skill points for this fight, with extra extra points leftover:
Healing Prayers: 11 + 1 (12)
Divine Boon: 9 + 1 (10)
Protection Prayers: 7
Smiting Prayers: 6

Weapon: Any (I used a weak 8-13 dmg wand)

Strategy:
Cast Balthazar's Spirit, Retribution, and Divine Boon on yourself before you step on last stone to battle yourself.

When battling, get up close to your mirror so he/she switches to melee axe. Use Bane Signet on him/her when available and heal yourself as necessary. Although I didn't beat mine in under 50 seconds, if you don't care about that, you can do it this way.

Works like a charm
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Old Jun 14, 2005, 10:21 AM // 10:21   #39
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As a EL/ME I used all the elemental attunement enchantments, but no attack spells.
Shatter enchantment to blow them off him, and do nice damage (I'm fire/dom)
And arcane echo so I had a second shatter.
When shatter wasn't up, I just wanded. Easy.

Warrior/Monk, stupidly easy, belt him, healing breeze.

Necro/mesmer, lot closer than the EL/Mo for some reason, but in essence used the same tactic. Felt like he really hammered the damage home ... wonder what type of damage he does?
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Old Jun 14, 2005, 02:54 PM // 14:54   #40
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It seems that Monks have the hardest time beating thier mirror for the reasons mentioned above. As a warrior your job is to take hits and do the whole HULK SMASH routine. Monk are just the opposite: we give life, and can't take many hits.

As a warrior, your mirror test was exactly what you've been trained to do, take hits and deal lots of damage.

As a monk, I am a fish out of water. I am now being asked to do a warrior's/damage dealer's job. That isn't fair. And I don't think it's true test of a monk's skill.

It's like asking a helicopter to fly faster than the speed of sound. No, a helicopter has a different job than a super fast fighter jet. Why should a helicopter be asked to pulled 9Gs in the simulator? He's is never gonna pul 9Gs in a helicopter.

The monk mirror test is inadequate. GW should change it.
It's more a test of using what skills you have available to you to overcome a certain situation. Your role doesn't factor into it, because there's no party. Its a pop quiz: Know your skills, and know what you're capable of doing with them, and you'll be fine. It's a test of player skill, not class skill.

Besides, it wouldn't make it any better if they for some reason decided that it should be "Heal/Keep Alive X NPC for Y amount of time." Then what happens when a Smiting monk, who doesn't heal, has to do it? You've only displaced your perceived problem onto another group.
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