Curse

dobber · Jul 16, 2005, 12:48 AM // 00:48

Hi guys

Ocasionaly in GvG and Tombs me and my team fight against 3 monk teams with spell breaker. We find this realy hard to beat. Tryed to change targets often but this is still not enough. Is there any way to counter such teams? Does Chilblains work in this situation? And when is the best time to cast it? Nature's Renewal is probably a bad spirit to have, because we use alot of hexes and enchantments too.

Please share your experiance in beating such teams.

ElderAtronach · Jul 16, 2005, 03:10 AM // 03:10

Nature's renewal will screw spell breaker more than it would hurt your team as long as you plan for it. Good spell breaker teams will have cover enchants to protect their spell break from chilblains. Nature's renewal is really the only answer.

Red Locust · Jul 16, 2005, 04:47 AM // 04:47

Well of profane and extensive use of chillbains should do it, but you really should be able to switch targets faster than it takes them to recharge spellbreaker. With the right setup, you can get a very long duration on spellbreaker, but the recharge timer still remains at 45s, so even with 3 monks doing it, you should still be able to outpace them. And they're down an elite.

rii · Jul 16, 2005, 08:20 AM // 08:20

Hit them. Really hard.

N O V A · Jul 16, 2005, 12:25 PM // 12:25

Signet of Humility could help.

Tindalos · Jul 16, 2005, 12:36 PM // 12:36

Illusionary Weaponry cuts though it.

Feli · Jul 16, 2005, 12:44 PM // 12:44

Well... Mo/Me - Archane Echo. Remove and i recast. Don't remove and i can keep it up 24/7.

15 seconds with 12 divine favor + 20% from Staffupgrade +30% from blessed aura which i only need up for that one cast. And if that is about to wear off i just fire up the echoed spell.

But... Spell Breaker has one weakness and that is its casting time of 1.75 seconds. That is by far enough time for any random - even a bad one - mesmer/ranger to interrupt the casting. And Spellbreaker consumes 15 Energy, so whomever is keeping this thing up all time is severely short on energy or relying on blessed signet for energy.

Red Locust · Jul 16, 2005, 06:38 PM // 18:38

Spellbreaker's actual casting time is 1 second, which takes a lot of luck and attention to interrupt. Also, there are a large number of energy management options available to a monk, 15 energy every 45seconds is not much.

Feli · Jul 16, 2005, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by Red Locust

Spellbreaker's actual casting time is 1 second, which takes a lot of luck and attention to interrupt. Also, there are a large number of energy management options available to a monk, 15 energy every 45seconds is not much.

1 Second + 0.75 Second Aftercast. That is more than enough time to interrupt that. Trust me, i've done it for quite a while and it is actually one of the more easily interrupted spells as you can tell when it is gonna be casted. Of course there is no such thing as a 100 percent chance on that. But it is fair enough

The Red Knight · Jul 17, 2005, 04:00 PM // 16:00

chilblains for the win ^^

Yukito Kunisaki · Jul 17, 2005, 04:17 PM // 16:17

Spell Breaker should follow its own naming rules. With a name like that, it should stop ANY spell cast on target.

Enemy spells can't be cast on target? That already sounds quite broken and from the sound of it, Nature's Renewal is probably the ultimate shredding spell.

Illusionary Weaponry {E} does rip through it quite painfully I might add.

I suppose hitting the monk to death with armor ignoring spells and enchants wouldn't be bad idea either.

Mind Wallaby · Jul 17, 2005, 05:25 PM // 17:25

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Originally Posted by Feli

1 Second + 0.75 Second Aftercast.

You can't interrupt a spell during aftercast, as it's already been casted by then...

Vindexus · Jul 17, 2005, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Nature's Renewal is incredibly overpowerd, no team build should be without it. If you really heavily on hexes and enchantments, you should change your build because if you come up against Nature's Renewal, you'll probably lose.

As for spell breaker, switching targets does work. They have three spellbreakers on 45s recharge, and 8 people on the team. Just let them cast one on the target, switch to a new one, and continue until they don't have Spellbreaker charge.

Signet of Humility is a great idea as well.

Willow · Jul 18, 2005, 12:03 AM // 00:03

So do big heavy pointy things.

Zeru · Jul 18, 2005, 03:17 AM // 03:17

Look at the length/recharge times. This isn't protective spirit and it can't be spammed. Just switch targets or time a diversion or distracting shot.

Kriegar · Jul 18, 2005, 04:25 AM // 04:25

How about you stop relying on air spike for all your dps?
...I can't believe people still run garbage like that.

Phades · Jul 18, 2005, 04:39 AM // 04:39

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Originally Posted by Kriegar

How about you stop relying on air spike for all your dps?
...I can't believe people still run garbage like that.

Rangers 4tw i guess...

Third Quarter · Jul 18, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58

Spell Breaker does not protect the target from Chilblains, Earthquake, Aftershock, Zealot's Fire, or any other spell that does not target them specifically.