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Old Aug 17, 2005, 10:09 PM // 22:09   #181
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note: when I say necros suck I'm not saying they have no use. I've said it in the past, they are potentially the best class imo but some of their potentially good skills are either horribly overpriced/balanced, cant work due to metagame reasons, or its going to take a major advancement in player skill to make them worth running over other options.
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Old Aug 17, 2005, 10:42 PM // 22:42   #182
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Wow, and look at that, the other guy I said that too had the same view of necros and how they suck/or are weak and less usefull. Go figure....
I don't get how you can keep missing the same point over and over. I'm sure you'd like to go on challenging every person who says necros suck to GvG...but for the last time, the arguement is about tombs.

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Amazing how the ranger teams can hold the halls for hours without using a necro. Wow, fertile season negates putrid spikes.... No..... Looks like 'every team' doesn't need a necro to me. Amazing how I also countered a putrid chain reaction with one spirit, and the common sense not to bunch up...
That's not true. A large majority of ranger teams nowadays run a Necro for putrid. Fertile Season does not negate putrid spikes. A 'putrid spike' or 'putrid chain' occurs when lots of members on a team are low on health and when one drops the putrid chain kills another and etc. Whether fertile is in effect or not doesn't matter. If a chain happens, it's because lots of players on the team are at low health. Fertile just makes it take longer for these conditions to be met. Not to bunch up isn't a counter, its just tactics used in the situation. Easiest example is NR. Not relying on enchants/hexes in no way counters NR, they are just tactics used when considering NR, and it doesn't make NR any less broken.

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I know atleast one of the guilds currently on the first page of the ladder use putrid. So, your argument of the 'alter-effect' and no one using the skill outside of that is a worthless one.
...I never said that Putrid stinks outside the altar. I said the reason its broken is that it is so powerful on the altar.

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Good job, you just came to the conclusion that everyone has been saying for months now. Hence why people have been saying for ages that that putrid needs a timer/longer cast time so that other skills can actually be used....
Way to take my statement out of context and miss the point which was explained right after, that Necrotic Transversal although better at denying corpses, would not make Wells/Minions unplayable, since it does not have the major effect on the altar. And if you agree that Putrid needs changing, then what the heck are you arguing about? Are you just angry that I said 'Necros Suck'? I really don't know.

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Every single corpse exploitation skill in the game? Lemmie guess, if putrid gets nerfed we will have to get rid of all of those too...
Um..the counter to those is Putrid.......and if it didn't exist, it'd be Necrotic Transversal. And yet, Necrotic Transversal is not a reasonable counter to Putrid...

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Yes, I did flame you and not him. The difference is Black has over a year worth of playing this game and testing everything about it. You don't even come close. So if he wants to make the opinion that necros suck, that is fine, it is a valid one because he has tested and battered the class into oblivion. You on the other hand have done nothing but cry about putrid and come to the conclusion that necros suck with very little experience in using them.
Way to contradict yourself completley. You explicitly say that his opinion is valid, and it happens to be the same thing as mine...so you are flaming me for having a valid opinion. Right, go you. You don't need proven experience to have an opinion. If a first-time poster comes on these boards says 'Mending Sucks,' I suppose you'll flame him/her for not having the proper experience to say that, right? You have no idea how much I've played or tested the Necro class, so don't assume things.

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Old Aug 18, 2005, 01:43 AM // 01:43   #183
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Nevermind haha...

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Old Aug 21, 2005, 07:51 PM // 19:51   #184
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I have a necro which I'm about to delete and black is correct. Life transfer sucks. NR shuts down the whole curse line. The only elite i think is worth anything is basically tainted flesh if you spam it. and along with putrid i believe it works well. The blood line is underpowered. Who cares if you heal yourself the monk does a better job and the dmg with vamp touch and gaze is minimal. BiP is useless if fertile is up. Spiteful spirit and soul leech are great hexes but a simple smite hex and they are gone. NR screws you over to. Aura of the lich so what in PvP if the people are attacking the necro you should be worried. virulence i guess in a fragility build has its place but its not that usefull. Wither and malaise are still hexes and get screwed with double cast times. I hope soul reaping actually gets some skills as well. It can be used to great effect in Tombs but i would really like to get some more skills to work with. no point with putrid on the bar to get minions which take forever and don't do a huge amount of dmg unless you have many which would be hard as hell. chiblains is nice and plauge touch to but NR just does it so much better compared to chilblains. The necro NEEDS some major balancing in all its skills.
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