Curse

Ice Blessings · Oct 06, 2005, 12:10 AM // 00:10

I been thinking on improving a way for empathy for those nasty warriors and rangers. Is Empathy + Parasite Good?

~Ice Blessings~

pagansaint · Oct 06, 2005, 12:57 AM // 00:57

Empathy+Insidious Parasite are decent combos and also Price of Failure is also very nice for putting a beating on them as long as their hex removal is sub-par

smurfhunter · Oct 06, 2005, 01:04 AM // 01:04

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Originally Posted by pagansaint

as long as their hex removal is sub-par

i.e. iway teams

pagansaint · Oct 06, 2005, 01:05 AM // 01:05

also faintheartedness, enfeebling blood and sypathetic visage combined make IWAY teams cry

Serps · Oct 06, 2005, 01:16 AM // 01:16

yeah, but faintheartedness slows down empathy damage.

pagansaint · Oct 06, 2005, 01:26 AM // 01:26

But it is a really good cover for it

But its not as good as Insidious/Enfeebling/Empathy/Price of Failure

And to manage the energy from casting all those I'd use Mantra of Recall before you cast, that way you have a good bit of energy waiting for you quickly to repeat on someone else.

Another good one when fighting IWAYs is Signet of Agony then Plague Sending then Virulence then Epidemic. Then you Empathy/Insidious Parasite whoever you choose because they are all diseased, poisoned, bleeding, weakened but their attack speed is still up and their monks are WAY over loaded unless they are running Martyr. In which case you still have Empathy/Insidious to not be completely useless.

Kazahana · Oct 06, 2005, 02:37 AM // 02:37

if your willing to give up an elite get spiteful spirit{E} + insidious parasite they run off the same attribute plus SS is AoE empathy you can get off a second spiteful befor the first one ends get that on 2 warriors in an iway and watch what happens

jesh · Oct 06, 2005, 06:44 PM // 18:44

Insidious Parasite only works on hits that connect, better not to use price of failure with it. And archane echoed spiteful spirits are scary VS warriors.

gimpysonofgroin · Oct 06, 2005, 06:48 PM // 18:48

Does mark of pain work with empathy?

Mercury Angel · Oct 06, 2005, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Insidious Spirit only works on hits. Price of Failure only works on misses.
Those 2 spells work against each other.

rii · Oct 06, 2005, 06:59 PM // 18:59

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Originally Posted by Serps

yeah, but faintheartedness slows down empathy damage.

as long as you maintain it (against iway mainly, i.e. few monks) it doesnt matter. All it does is give your monks a bit more time to react to the damage their doing.

jesh · Oct 06, 2005, 07:02 PM // 19:02

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Originally Posted by gimpysonofgroin

Does mark of pain work with empathy?

Mark of Pain activates on YOUR physical hits. Wands won't do the trick, because they don't deal physical damage. You'd need a warrior of your own, most likely, to make use of mark of pain on the enemy. There's no reason that those two skills can't be used together, however.

If you were asking if mark of pain is TRIGGERED by empathy, the answer is no. All mesmer spells deal chaos damage, which ignores armor, but won't activate MoP. Necro is similair with dark/shadow damage, in most cases.

smurfhunter · Oct 06, 2005, 07:19 PM // 19:19

i want a 'melee' staff head. so that your wand attacks do melee damage. ohh imagine bulls charge with a wand.. and favorable wands up... ohhh

jesh · Oct 06, 2005, 07:23 PM // 19:23

I'm hoping that wasn't a noise of pleasure.. o.O;

/is scared

tastegw · Oct 07, 2005, 01:55 PM // 13:55

empathy + insidious + spitefull spirit

but not in that order.

another great combo is blind + price of failure

ex: ineptitude + PoF or signet of midnight + PoF.

there are many different ways to go about this. there are just a few.

Yukito Kunisaki · Oct 07, 2005, 02:43 PM // 14:43

If you want to make an army of IWAY Warriors crying for mercy... I think it's best to just shut them out rather then trying to kill them [risking killing yourself...]

How about

Shadow of Fear
Enfeebling Blood
Suffering

With the right energy manager skills from mesmer, you've basically 'killed' the warriors by turning off their damage to about 20%. Easily negligible to your team's monk. With high Curses, that's about 40s. of Shadow and 17s. of Enfeebling. Hot stuff.

gimpysonofgroin · Oct 07, 2005, 02:50 PM // 14:50

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Originally Posted by jesh

Mark of Pain activates on YOUR physical hits. Wands won't do the trick, because they don't deal physical damage. You'd need a warrior of your own, most likely, to make use of mark of pain on the enemy. There's no reason that those two skills can't be used together, however.

If you were asking if mark of pain is TRIGGERED by empathy, the answer is no. All mesmer spells deal chaos damage, which ignores armor, but won't activate MoP. Necro is similair with dark/shadow damage, in most cases.

Thanks, the damage type is never actually described in the skill description. Should've guessed though.

Sofonisba · Oct 07, 2005, 03:50 PM // 15:50

This morning I tried stacking Empathy and Clumsiness... a dumb warrior ignores them and kills himself. A smart one backs off - essentially shutting down for a bit.