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Old Nov 24, 2005, 08:52 PM // 20:52   #21
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Well, everyone can think of reasons why it doesn't work. But has anyone really tried it?

Hundred Blades is a good skill if you are able to work your away around, like he did. Using a warrior/ele with a conjure with hundred blades can work as well.

No further debate? Love the flames. It's a good build to try out. Why not use it? It's not like everyone is going to go up against a build that will def. counter it.
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Old Nov 24, 2005, 08:57 PM // 20:57   #22
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Just for fun, my guild ran 5 IW R/Me's, 2 healers, a prot...

It's funny that you can stomp so many teams once you snare a target and swing that purple blade around. You'd think people can out heal the damage, but that's not always the case in tombs!
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Old Nov 24, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21   #23
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so many little errors in the first post.
lets start with Me/W, the fact that you do not hit with illusionary weaponry.
also use Vigorous Spirit.
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Old Nov 24, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41   #24
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If your going to give someone advice at least do it right. Chain spikers are just as pathetic. Maybe if you would have said earth spike or something with a little more creativity i wouldnt be writing this. But dont bash the guy for trying to be original. He posted here for advice and not to get sappy advice from someone who doesnt know how pathetic chain spike has become. FYI 1 fast monk with p spirit will shut you down even quicker than with this guys build.

Not trying to turn this into a huge flame but seriously consider what you post before killing someone elses idea.
Do it right? What's wrong in my post. I simply gave an example of an aoe damage spike. Whats with everyone trying to be original? The reason people run certain builds over other ones is that they are more efficient or just better, have more uses and so on. Did I say Chain spike is good? I'm pretty sure Rus Corp runs an air spike or at least I thought so. The prot spirit would have to applied to much of the team not to mention ANY GOOD SPIKE RENDS THE ENCHANTS. Don't act like you know shit.
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Old Nov 24, 2005, 10:37 PM // 22:37   #25
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There are better sword skills than hundred blades swords could use another elite.
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Old Nov 24, 2005, 11:28 PM // 23:28   #26
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I suspect you'd be better off using Hundred Blades with Orders, Winnowing, and maybe Strength of Honor, rather than trying to monkey around with Arcane Mimicry and Illusionary Weaponry on warrior primaries.
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Old Nov 25, 2005, 02:34 AM // 02:34   #27
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all the warriors might get body blocked so not all will acculy swing might be tough getting around corners
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Old Nov 25, 2005, 03:28 AM // 03:28   #28
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Wow that not only doesn't work at all, but is very poorly put together, well done!
Way to go on being a jerk. Well done!
Ok while the idea of having a build based on hundred blades in a good idea, it just prolly wont work in this way. It could possibly work with a conjure+orders+vampric weapon. But the beginning with all the arcane minicry and stuuf would be 2 complex and take to long it the beginning to be practical. That's my opinion which is what he was asking for in the first place.
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Old Nov 25, 2005, 03:37 AM // 03:37   #29
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God the truth's a b**** ain' it?
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Old Nov 25, 2005, 04:28 AM // 04:28   #30
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When it comes to IW, you have to remember that ALL of the dmg is from IW. No orders, no enchantments, no spirits, no buffs, NOTHING but an IAS stance will make IW do more damage. No point for using Adrenline skills either. Can't build Ad. with IW. IW has tons of things going AGAINST it... It's only true advantage is sustained DpS.

HB with IW doesn't make any sense. HB has a far better use in PvE where it can quadruple your adrenaline input in some cases.

That and no warrior is going to run into battle wielding more than 4 energy based skills. IW is just tooo expensive for a warrior's weak e. regen and pool. Thankfully, if there's a ton of you guys running it, stripping them all won't be easy. [Chillblains ftw, doh]

IW really should be slapped on a Me/W using defensive shouts with Flurry on top. Maybe a cover enchant or heck, Arcane Echo... 16 illusion with flurry = decent IW...

Aside from that, IW on a warrior means he's losing all his damage capabilities. [look at the adrenaline skills for crying out loud... They're sooo much more efficient to do damage then IW ever will be...]
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Old Nov 25, 2005, 04:32 AM // 04:32   #31
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... the pont is to use hb with the 34 damage hits for that largeish spike.
There are better skills, but that's not the poisnt of the build.
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Old Nov 25, 2005, 03:27 PM // 15:27   #32
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Compare that to an Eviscerate spike, or a Devastating Hammer spike.... Yeah.

@A User Name: Apologies, but I have very little patience for people who post builds without even doing very very very basic testing on them. Even less patience for people who post builds and then can't even be bothered to get the numbers right for damage calculations. And even less again for people who post straight out dumb builds.
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Old Nov 25, 2005, 03:57 PM // 15:57   #33
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Way to go on being a jerk. Well done!
Ok while the idea of having a build based on hundred blades in a good idea, it just prolly wont work in this way. It could possibly work with a conjure+orders+vampric weapon. But the beginning with all the arcane minicry and stuuf would be 2 complex and take to long it the beginning to be practical. That's my opinion which is what he was asking for in the first place.
unless you're talking about conjure phantasm..

conjure flame/lightning/frost requires a weapon with a fiery/shocking/cold mod, so you cant go conjure and have a vampiric weapon at the same time (unless you're a ranger using kindle arrows), and then again, if you use conjure with your non-vampiric and non-physical weapon, orders won't work, because they only work with physical weapons.
a vampiric weapon with orders does work though.

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Old Nov 25, 2005, 04:04 PM // 16:04   #34
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I thought up a similar build like this when I was bored but it was 4 R/Me stealing hundred blades off of a W/R with Mimicry. Seeing as they have a bigger energy pool and better regen it works better than W/Me. Just a thought.
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Old Nov 25, 2005, 04:31 PM // 16:31   #35
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There is only 1 IW build for hoh i can think of...

mes/w with full illusion with cylone axe and flurry as the warrior skills and the rest well....u work that out...
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Old Nov 26, 2005, 01:21 AM // 01:21   #36
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You want a good situation for 100 blades?

My Build is built around it http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...+Strike +Team
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Old Nov 26, 2005, 01:55 AM // 01:55   #37
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to make your spike you need

15 + 15 + 5 mana = 35 mana


basicly even with a focus you kill someone who will get ressed in 4 sec and 4 player on your team become useless for 60 sec of archana recharge.

in this time a decent team have aready killed your monk a lot of times.

and a single signet of weriness can destroy entire stuff
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Old Nov 26, 2005, 03:23 AM // 03:23   #38
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Im really confused how can you have 2 elites in one tank or any char for that matter does this require some crazy hackers cause dats beyond me?
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Old Nov 26, 2005, 05:57 AM // 05:57   #39
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Im really confused how can you have 2 elites in one tank or any char for that matter does this require some crazy hackers cause dats beyond me?
lol its called arcane minicry it can copy an elite
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Old Nov 27, 2005, 07:55 PM // 19:55   #40
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I dont understand how you can actually pull this off against people who are even half-awake, your IW will be stripped/rended like it was never there. Also, you cant really get the warriors to attack the same target at exactly the same time can you ? Also, with 4 bulky warriors, you'll probably be body-blocking each other too if the target tries to run. Not to mention energy issues.

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