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Sagius Truthbarron · Dec 07, 2005, 08:40 PM // 20:40

Fear not! You no longer need to ask what an EoE/Edge Bomb is! I made an article about it on GuildWiki.

Maybe we can even merge all the "What is Edge Bomb??" threads!

[shamelessplug] http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/EoE_Bomb [/shamelessplug]

mortalis doleo · Dec 07, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56

and for the love of God! when you see my team has dozens of minions, don't call us cheaters!!!!!!!!!!!
AGHHHHH!!!

Sol_Vie · Dec 07, 2005, 08:57 PM // 20:57

Nice guide... thanks.

Talin04 · Dec 07, 2005, 08:59 PM // 20:59

but how do you kill urself?

Sagius Truthbarron · Dec 07, 2005, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talin04

but how do you kill urself?

Reading under the "Variants" heading would explain that

IOW EoE Bomb is just as popular as the BiP, so I couldn't put either in the "Overview" area.

killer toast · Dec 07, 2005, 09:48 PM // 21:48

you use bip or infuse health
and another counter to eoe is fertil season and symbiosos(think i spelled it wrong

)

a cadet · Dec 07, 2005, 09:55 PM // 21:55

This may be a bit too specific, but probably the simplest EoE build is one with 6/7 E/N elementalist spikers (Obsidian Flame spikes are easiest), using BiP to kill themselves. Its just that if you actually tried the 'fighting BiP' version, you would need 3 monks, etc.

The spike makes it easiest for your group to kill the unworthy without any monks, and against a real team you simply rush, cast Crystal Wave (or Flame Burst or Frozen Burst, some local AOE) and then BiP to death.

I dont know if thats getting into the details of it too much, but its probably the most standard EoE that i know of.

Great guide btw!

Sagius Truthbarron · Dec 07, 2005, 09:58 PM // 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by killer toast

you use bip or infuse health
and another counter to eoe is fertil season and symbiosos(think i spelled it wrong

)

It's impossible to kill yourself with Infuse Health alone.

killer toast · Dec 07, 2005, 09:59 PM // 21:59

i know you infuse yourself to lower hp and the eoe will get you killed

mortalis doleo · Dec 07, 2005, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by killer toast

you use bip or infuse health
and another counter to eoe is fertil season and symbiosos(think i spelled it wrong

)

fertile and symbiosis are easilly countered by bringing your own, 0 attribute versions of those spirits, and casting them to destroy the enemy spirit.

it's very logical, but i have never seen any EoE bomb do that...

killer toast · Dec 07, 2005, 10:02 PM // 22:02

wow i never thought of that mortalis but how much hp do they get from it if it were 0 attribute?

a cadet · Dec 07, 2005, 10:07 PM // 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortalis doleo

fertile and symbiosis are easilly countered by bringing your own, 0 attribute versions of those spirits, and casting them to destroy the enemy spirit.

it's very logical, but i have never seen any EoE bomb do that...

Im pretty sure each team can have their own set of spirits, meaning that there can be two Frozen Soils down, as long as one is from each team. Im not completely sure that this is true, but in some cases (when playing an EoE group against an IWAY) they would put down their own EoE, but the damage from it was still 52 (implying 16 Beast Mastery).

Against Fertile Seasons, this probably will work, but against Symbiosis the level 0 will probably last too long either way. Nice idea however, i never thought of that.

Sagius Truthbarron · Dec 07, 2005, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortalis doleo

fertile and symbiosis are easilly countered by bringing your own, 0 attribute versions of those spirits, and casting them to destroy the enemy spirit.

I corrected your spelling here and added it to the article under "Counter Counters"

Thanks.

I also corrected it slightly so that it would be factual. You would need to drop the spirit before the enemy team if I understand correctly?.

yangster · Dec 08, 2005, 03:40 AM // 03:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by a cadet

Im pretty sure each team can have their own set of spirits, meaning that there can be two Frozen Soils down, as long as one is from each team. Im not completely sure that this is true, but in some cases (when playing an EoE group against an IWAY) they would put down their own EoE, but the damage from it was still 52 (implying 16 Beast Mastery).

It's true. Both teams can have the same spirits up but the one with a higher level spirit will be effective. My friend's iway build with EoE was at max damage and the other team had there own which was a lower level then ours.

LuLu · Dec 10, 2005, 01:32 PM // 13:32

you could also link to this movie of how its done

http://files.filefront.com/NecroBomb.../fileinfo.html

Dralspire · Dec 10, 2005, 01:36 PM // 13:36

Huh? EoE bomb? What's that???

funkho · Dec 10, 2005, 03:24 PM // 15:24

Actually, my experience with EOE has shown that if you bring a low level EOE spirit and put it up after you see another EOE up, it will replace the other teams EOE *UNTIL YOUR EOE IS DEAD*. Then, the other teams EOE will come back into effect. This leads me to believe that spirits work based on the one that is closest to you...

In addition, I am positive that EoE is bugged. Last night, I definitely took EoE damage while NOT in the effect of EoE... No, I don't have a screenshot because I was in battle and wasn't quick enough to take it. Please other folks who are playing arenas, keep an eye out for this and try to take a cap. I'm going to keep my fingers on the button, but it's really hard to catch it...

-Funk

killer toast · Dec 10, 2005, 03:37 PM // 15:37

it is bugged it sometimes hurts you when your not in the spirits range

mortalis doleo · Dec 10, 2005, 03:41 PM // 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron

I corrected your spelling here and added it to the article under "Counter Counters"

Thanks.

I also corrected it slightly so that it would be factual. You would need to drop the spirit before the enemy team if I understand correctly?.

from ANET's notes after the spirit spam nerf, they say that if a spirit of the same kind dropped in the range of a twin spirit, the original spirit would die.

therefore... (sp???

)
if you drop a symbiosis/fertile in the enemy team's spirit range (after they dropped theirs), then their spirit should die and there should be a lvl 0 spirit.

i think lvl 0 fertile gives 30-50 hp... i cant remmember atm.

edit:
you need to change that in the article...
say that you should drop the spirits after the enemy team drops there spirit...

funkho · Dec 10, 2005, 04:18 PM // 16:18

Perhaps they are refering to spirits raised by the same team of the same type. There must be some distinction, no?