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Old Nov 15, 2005, 09:03 PM // 21:03   #101
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Do what I do.

I play a healer. It's not immediately obvious, since it's an E/Mo healer. When I join CA, I announce in teamchat:

Galen Hardril: "I am a healer. I do not heal warriors who use mending on themselves."

If anyone does, I announce in local: "I am a healer. I do not heal warriors who use mending on themselves. That means #4 on my team will get no healing. Kill him."

In one match, on the lava level, the opposing team had a good monk, and our Paladin-crippled offense couldn't outdamage him, and their offense couldn't get past my healing. So, sudden death rolled around, and we waited. And we waited.

About four minutes into sudden death, apparently someone on the other team remembers what I said, and targets the paladin. Up goes breeze, vigorous, and an orison or two. He dies about 15 seconds later, and the other team wins.

If all healers did this, maybe the whammos would learn that other people are better than they are at healing, and run some damage instead.

I witness this, I was on the opposing team. I was getting frustrated with you infusing health and then ether renewing yourself back to full HP - that's a very nice healing build you have there. Anyway, I distinctly recall you saying after the match 'See, I told you I wouldn't heal him'. I thought that you may have a grudge against him but now I know why.
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Old Nov 16, 2005, 02:22 AM // 02:22   #102
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Rofl. The Paladin Premade build is the funniest thing ever. A couple of friends and myself got together went into tombs with it. All 8 of us with the build as a joke. Funner yet we got in order of the build with names of the skills for instance: Zomg Healing Handz. Great stuff
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Old Nov 16, 2005, 05:18 PM // 17:18   #103
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Yeah Mending is the best skill ever. As soon as I jump into an arena with a W/Mo that casts that on themselves- I just quit party and go back to the outpost. They are so uber I don't even want to waste my time winning 100 matches in a row.

I do the same thing when a Fire Ele joins, so either one will make me drop out and re-start. Nothing like watching a teammate waste time casting a firestorm.
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Old Nov 16, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45   #104
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I do the same thing when a Fire Ele joins, so either one will make me drop out and re-start. Nothing like watching a teammate waste time casting a firestorm.
And nothing like a teammate who quits in the beginning of the match to waste EVERYONE'S time.

Since we're picking petty things to quit matches on.....I'd be more inclined to quit if I see a teammate with a cheesy version of the cliched name of "Dark Angel"
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Old Nov 16, 2005, 07:55 PM // 19:55   #105
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zing.

and hey, don't dis fire eles, phonix+infreno+lava burst kills wammos so easily :P

PBAOE ftw!
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Old Nov 16, 2005, 09:14 PM // 21:14   #106
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Should people using the paladin build be shot?
They should be dropped off in "The Lair".

Oh wait, the devs have made the game cater to ultra zealous carebears, so we can't do that any more.

Guess shooting them is the only good choice left.
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Old Nov 16, 2005, 09:55 PM // 21:55   #107
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nothing's funnier than seeing a W/Mo with martyr - oh baby, conditions, just what a war needs.

I don't arenas much (tombs and gvg are my staples) but frankly, every W/Mo I see in arenas think they are an invincible killing machine that can just run in and hack, and credit every kill to themself. Idiots, the lot of them.
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Old Nov 17, 2005, 04:23 PM // 16:23   #108
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Rofl. The Paladin Premade build is the funniest thing ever. A couple of friends and myself got together went into tombs with it. All 8 of us with the build as a joke. Funner yet we got in order of the build with names of the skills for instance: Zomg Healing Handz. Great stuff
rofl i faced one of those groups and i was a nice earth ele, my team focues on them 1 at a time(r spikers) while staying in the wards that i made all i do did was this combo (rofl) eruption + earthquake+aftershock+crystal wave....ye my mana was all gone but so was the warrior/mo's ROFL!!
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Old Nov 27, 2005, 02:27 PM // 14:27   #109
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Mending FTW

ROFL i only just noticeed that post LOL!!!! emm let me think

1 NECRO/MES will realy mess u guys u LOL!!

shadow of fear,soothing images,spiteful spirit, enfeeebling blood........




o crap i double posted ..sorry.......
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Old Nov 28, 2005, 01:46 AM // 01:46   #110
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LOL! That's funny. But really people, at least add a Riposte or something to the build.
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Old Nov 28, 2005, 03:03 AM // 03:03   #111
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I do the same thing when a Fire Ele joins, so either one will make me drop out and re-start. Nothing like watching a teammate waste time casting a firestorm.
When I see fire elementalists in arenas (with my mesmer) I get so happy, because its so much fun when they try and cast meteor shower, or some really long cast-time spell and I interupt them everytime they do it.

Then they start running around aimlessly.
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Old Nov 28, 2005, 03:47 AM // 03:47   #112
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Of course they should, if they're trying it in pvp. I mean, wait, maybe they shouldn't, because it's more fun to be a water ele and slowdown/knockdown and get nowhere until they rage quit. You wouldn't believe how many of them are like "Squishy!!! I can kill him!!!" Then I use ice prison and water trident to the tune of "You n00b!11 figt it out lik a man!
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Old Nov 28, 2005, 03:58 AM // 03:58   #113
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I mean, most of the pre-made builds people are using in the arenas are new to Guild Wars most likely. They go with the pre-made because they have no knowledge of how to come up with a good build on their own. :\

"Wow! A PALADIN! That sounds great!"
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It's just something we have to live with. :P
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Old Nov 28, 2005, 05:37 AM // 05:37   #114
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I love hearing how people leave Comp Arena if they see they have a certain character class on their team. That makes them really cool in my opinion, I just love having the only quick thing I can do in this game screwed over. Tell you this, I would rather be grouped with nothing but Wammo's that followed targets for the rest of my days than coninually get stuck with that one 1337 mavrick who doesn't understand teamwork and then yells at everyone else when he dies because he Leroy Jenkin'ed. And please, I like doing a run or two in CA before I have to go to work or grocery shopping, so do your best to not ruin it. Everyone starts PvP somewhere remember where you started; so instead of just quitting out why not just say "Hey follow targets please...Oh and W/Mo's may not be the best choice because of this." that way, these "noobs" learn something and can subsequently change thier ways.
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Old Dec 15, 2005, 05:16 PM // 17:16   #115
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To answer your question: Yes, people who use unmodified premades in CA should be shot...
Boon Healer and IVEX Trapper aren't that bad.
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Old Dec 15, 2005, 08:50 PM // 20:50   #116
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And yet, boon healer has mana problems out the eyeballs, and IVEX trapper is comically interruptible.

Actually decent builds ftw!
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Old Dec 15, 2005, 11:02 PM // 23:02   #117
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Why do so many people use pre-made character set??? What's so great about W/Mo? The name "Paladin"???

Actually, the pre-made set is not THAT bad. You can't go wrong with skills but it's how the people use them.

The Classic Example is Healing Hands. I've seen 1,000 W/Mo out there who cast Healing Hands on themselves and not on a Monk/Ele/Mesmer/Necro or even Ranger who is getting beat up by a warrior/ranger. Why is that??? Warrior is NOT the prority target and why can't they cast it on somebody else who is near death??? Then after the teammate is dead, he starts using Rez Sig and Restore Life which get distracted by Ranger 70% of the time, then his teammates yelled at him "Rez Please!" "You Noob! Rez!!"

The second Classic Example is casting Mending on themselves and not on other casters. That +3 regen is actually not that bad. How come they just refuse to cast on somebody else???
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Old Dec 15, 2005, 11:04 PM // 23:04   #118
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When I see fire elementalists in arenas (with my mesmer) I get so happy, because its so much fun when they try and cast meteor shower, or some really long cast-time spell and I interupt them everytime they do it.

Then they start running around aimlessly.
Fire Ele is probably the weakest build in CA. So easily interrupted...not enough damage (heavily resisted by ranger/warrior) and the AoE effect is very limited. I love going after fire ele.
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Old Dec 15, 2005, 11:15 PM // 23:15   #119
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If a Warrior truly wants to upkeep an enchantment, Strength of Honor is a good choice. That +8 dmg is much more important to Warriors than +3 Mending on himself.

If he REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY likes Mending, cast it on non-warrior please. If the Team is full of warriors, cast it on W/E hammer. If all are W/Mo, cast it on yourself.


And DO NOT ever use Mending when you try to run and heal. Oh god, I've seen this sooooooooooo many times. A W/Mo is running for his life and then he stops... takes 2s to cast Mending and then died. WTF??!!!


If you want to be a W/Mo that focuses on supporting the team, cast Succor, Balth Spirit, Holy Veil on your teammates. You can't go wrong with those. Holy Veil is so good if you have an interruption ranger on your team.
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Old Dec 15, 2005, 11:49 PM // 23:49   #120
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i dont see the problem with using mending at all. When you get down to it, its not much different than Obsidian Flesh, Bonetti's Defense, or Distortion; those are just a few i could name that are easily and commonly spammed during CA.

I really hate when people leave because they see a W/Mo. They "get mad" because it supposedly "ruins" their game. But do you think they really care about how their teamates feel? NO!!!! So they are all hypocrites who should be shot.

And you cant blame Paladins for being spammed through CA, when there are clearly more people playing N/Me and R/Me. Especially R/Me that just spam distortion while chipping away at your health. Same thing with R/W with Bonetti's or Whirling Defense who just attempt to drop trap after trap at your feet.

Personally, i think the Me/W Illusionary Fighter should be shot.
Or maybe even have razorwire stuck up their tight @**h***$.
So many people play them and dont even have a clue on how they work.

When i bring a W/Mo into arena, its usually just an axe or hammer-disrupt baes build with healing and protecting allies. There is nothing wrong with that.

My guess is, when you guys were total |\|00|3s at GW you played the Pally and people laughed and totally pwn3d you and now you just getting back at them because your "big enough"



btw, someone mentioned L Eeroy J Enkins, as a verb..right? What was that supposed to mean? I fought him with my griefer build..0 against 2 other warriors and a monk. Lasted for 22:46 before i had to go.
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